Review: East Coast Showdown 2019

hardeep_singh

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Over complicating a rather simple thing with all this statistical crap.
even the simplest things in this world are developed using statistical analysis, any molded component you use in your day to day life be it a water bottle or a cell phone case is the result of statistical process control, statistics is heavily used to manage tolerances for all the components in mechanical assemblies such as car engines, any medicine you take is developed using statistical models to analyze effectiveness and side effects. effective trolling/arguing is dependent on understanding of subject matter and being able to gain knowledge on subject matter quickly so you don't look like an idiot constantly.
 
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yomamajama

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even the simplest things in this world are developed using statistical analysis, any molded component you use in your day to day life be it a water bottle or a cell phone case is the result of statistical process control, statistics is heavily used to manage tolerances for all the components in mechanical assemblies such as car engines, any medicine you take is developed using statistical models to analyze effectiveness and side effects. effective trolling/arguing is dependent on understanding of subject matter and being able to gain knowledge on subject matter quickly so you don't look like an idiot constantly.
There are certain parameters in the statistical analysis that would render the stats itself biased and fundamentally flawed.

For example, if there are 5 catagories for which a judge is to evaluate a team, those 5 categories are handpicked already by the competition committees, hence there is already bias in the judging.

I disagree that simply because a judge goes beyond the categories, he is deemed to throw a competition and hence should be responsible for any perceived backlash as to why another team should have gotten first.

Perhaps that judge disagreed with the already biased nature of the Judging rubric, and thought of factors outside of the rubric that should be considered. There should be some flexibility in this sense, but without it, we are left with just a biased rubric for the judge to evaluate.

Also, the various examples you state for which statistical analysis is heavily relied on are not considered “simple” matters as you initially state. These are highly scientific matters that require expert analysis.

One would hardly consider Bhangra a complex matter requiring such expertise. It’s a just a fun hobby.

My recommendation is to just let to the audience vote and compare percentages received from each team as voted by the people. More interactive, may possibly get more people to actually attend the comp, rather than seeing a bunch of empty space in the audience.
 

hardeep_singh

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Also, the various examples you state for which statistical analysis is heavily relied on are not considered “simple” matters as you initially state. These are highly scientific matters that require expert analysis.
the process that's followed in a number of fields
1. open up minitab and look at the DOE table to determine the number of samples required for the confidence interval and number of variables being analyzed
2. plug your variables into minitab along with number of samples for your experiment and get an optimized DOE plan which tells you how many samples should be created at each variable setting and in what order
3. run your experiment / build your parts / run your machine according to the experiment design and collect all the data
4. import your data into minitab, analyze the data for outliers, determine if data needs to be normalized, run a t-test, run an ANOVA and minitab spits out a report describing which variables are critical and which ones don't have statistical impact

a significant amount of statistical analysis in industry is plug and play, whether it's pharmaceuticals, clinical trials, injection molding, failure mode analysis, etc.
 

yomamajama

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the process that's followed in a number of fields
1. open up minitab and look at the DOE table to determine the number of samples required for the confidence interval and number of variables being analyzed
2. plug your variables into minitab along with number of samples for your experiment and get an optimized DOE plan which tells you how many samples should be created at each variable setting and in what order
3. run your experiment / build your parts / run your machine according to the experiment design and collect all the data
4. import your data into minitab, analyze the data for outliers, determine if data needs to be normalized, run a t-test, run an ANOVA and minitab spits out a report describing which variables are critical and which ones don't have statistical impact

a significant amount of statistical analysis in industry is plug and play, whether it's pharmaceuticals, clinical trials, injection molding, failure mode analysis, etc.
Look man I don’t understand what your saying, and I’m not going to take the time to understand. Enough of the BS, let the people decide; get rid of the damn judges.
 

hardeep_singh

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Look man I don’t understand what your saying, and I’m not going to take the time to understand.
look man general bhangra competition audiences dosn't understand bhangra and don't have the time or interest to bother with gaining better understanding of it.

Enough of the BS, let the people decide; get rid of the damn judges.
from the early days of NA bhangra to 2008/2009 and even later, bhangra competitions were judged by unqualified people (random uncles/auntis), their judging was heavily influenced by audience reaction, audiences obviously being ignorant of the intricacies of bhangra responded positively to superficial elements such as gimmicks and stunts.
 
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yomamajama

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look man general bhangra competition audiences dosn't understand bhangra and don't have the time or interest to bother with gaining better understanding of it.


from the early days of NA bhangra to 2008/2009 and even later, bhangra competitions were judged by unqualified people (random uncles/auntis), their judging was heavily influenced by audience reaction, audiences obviously being ignorant of the intricacies of bhangra responded positively to superficial elements such as gimmicks and stunts.
This is not 2008/2009. People have evolved
 
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