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Why can't we do this?
« on: May 06, 2011, 01:48:18 AM »
So ya . . . I have few questions for the Bhangra world. It's just something that's been bugging me lately! ::)


1. What's wrong with tying "side turla" paggs for Bhangra Competitions or even at GIGS?  ???


2. Why does RED jorri has to be the main jorri? Why can't it be any other color? :o 




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Why can't we do this?
« on: May 06, 2011, 01:48:18 AM »

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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2011, 01:55:03 AM »
I use to think the same about the turla but then i learned how to tie a front turla and its jsut sick respect to the side turla aswell but yeah. And ive noticed a lot of red joris are front joris so sice teams can have magic tricks and all this crazy stuff and crazy outfits then red dont need to be the front jori, some teams dont even have red in there vardiyaan. I guess its just a tradition from live sets carried on im guessing

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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 01:57:53 AM »
So ya . . . I have few questions for the Bhangra world. It's just something that's been bugging me lately! ::)


1. What's wrong with tying "side turla" paggs for Bhangra Competitions or even at GIGS?  ???


2. Why does RED jorri has to be the main jorri? Why can't it be any other color? :o 




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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 02:01:28 AM »
I use to think the same about the turla but then i learned how to tie a front turla and its jsut sick respect to the side turla aswell but yeah. And ive noticed a lot of red joris are front joris so sice teams can have magic tricks and all this crazy stuff and crazy outfits then red dont need to be the front jori, some teams dont even have red in there vardiyaan. I guess its just a tradition from live sets carried on im guessing

your totally right abt red jorri situation. if i ask people, why red is always the main color, they would just tell me "thats how it is from the start". but if anyone know why is "RED" the main jorri, please do let me know, i'm all ears! :)

N' abt the side turle wali pagg. It's jus people don't give much respect to side turle wali paggs...they think it's not good enough! No offense to front turle wali pagg! I'm glad that i have the talent to tie both the front n' side turle wali pagg! :)
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 02:03:49 AM »
someone should jsut go to a comp with a side turla or even better theres all these judges why not ask them since they are sitting there for a reason clearly they know a lot to be sitting there id liek to ask a judge both those questions you are asking. Good post +1

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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 02:03:58 AM »
Who says you can't?

have you seen a team recently compete at a Bhangra competition with side turles?

N' its just some ppl i know in bhangra world that always tell me, oo RED should be the main jorri...no matter what! I mean why RED? Why does it even matter??? lol
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 02:08:01 AM »
Who says you can't?

have you seen a team recently compete at a Bhangra competition with side turles?

N' its just some ppl i know if bhangra world that always tell me, oo RED should be the main jorri...no matter what! I mean why RED? Why does it even matter??? lol

I know a lot teams have performed with side turlas. Im not sure about at a comp but hey im sure its happend somewhere. As for having the red jori in the front some teams don't even get red colored vardis of they all have the same vardis so i really don't think it matters. Especially when your supposed to dance as a team. Do what you want man don't allow things to restrict your creativity.
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 02:09:40 AM »
someone should jsut go to a comp with a side turla or even better theres all these judges why not ask them since they are sitting there for a reason clearly they know a lot to be sitting there id liek to ask a judge both those questions you are asking. Good post +1

hahaha ya, lets' jus hope we get an answer that really make sense! cos from what i been hearing, its jus BS! they're jus saying "oo they been doing that, so we have to do that too" . . . kar layo gall! ::)
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 02:10:43 AM »
Red, in my opinion, seems to be the main jori mainly to manipulate the viewers' eyes. Since red is a color that usually stands out far more than green, blue, etc., the main jori wears red so that the audience pays more attention to them; thus, it is most likely that the audience would be watching the best dancers for a good amount of the routine, and they would judge how the routine was based on the main jori compared to how the other joris did. I guess it's sort of like a bullfight in that the bull is attracted to the matador since the matador usually wears red. The viewers would be like the bull and matador would be like the dancers. I'm guessing maybe that's how it originated, but nowadays, it seems like in order to have a winning team, everyone on a team must dance at the same level, so in a way the idea might be a bit obsolete in a way, but it still is present in many teams/performances.

Edit: The bull/matador sentence was an analogy.
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2011, 02:13:17 AM »
I know a lot teams have performed with side turlas. Im not sure about at a comp but hey im sure its happend somewhere. As for having the red jori in the front some teams don't even get red colored vardis of they all have the same vardis so i really don't think it matters. Especially when your supposed to dance as a team. Do what you want man don't allow things to restrict your creativity.

you probably have seen a bhangra team in the past but i haven't seen anyone compete at a bhangra comp. recently ( in the last 3 to 4 or even more) with side turle wali pagg!

N' abt your red jorri saying : kaash, har koi eh gall samaj sakda hovey! hahahaha par kithey! saare ik doojhe deh magar laggey rehende aa!

p.s. i hella wanna compete at a bhangra comp. with side turle wali paggs! i hope there are others like me out there ;)
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2011, 02:17:24 AM »
Red, in my opinion, seems to be the main jori mainly to manipulate the viewers' eyes. Since red is a color that usually stands out far more than green, blue, etc., the main jori wears red so that the audience pays more attention to them; thus, it is most likely that the audience would be watching the best dancers for a good amount of the routine, and they would judge how the routine was based on the main jori compared to how the other joris did. I guess it's sort of like a bullfight in that the bull is attracted to the matador since the matador usually wears red. The viewers would be like the bull and matador would be like the dancers. I'm guessing maybe that's how it originated, but nowadays, it seems like in order to have a winning team, everyone on a team must dance at the same level, so in a way the idea might be a bit obsolete in a way, but it still is present in many teams/performances.

hahahaha that can't be the right answer! i hope not! lol cos that would just be retarded! N' no disrespect to your post what-so-ever! ;)
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2011, 02:28:26 AM »
Red, in my opinion, seems to be the main jori mainly to manipulate the viewers' eyes. Since red is a color that usually stands out far more than green, blue, etc., the main jori wears red so that the audience pays more attention to them; thus, it is most likely that the audience would be watching the best dancers for a good amount of the routine, and they would judge how the routine was based on the main jori compared to how the other joris did. I guess it's sort of like a bullfight in that the bull is attracted to the matador since the matador usually wears red. The viewers would be like the bull and matador would be like the dancers. I'm guessing maybe that's how it originated, but nowadays, it seems like in order to have a winning team, everyone on a team must dance at the same level, so in a way the idea might be a bit obsolete in a way, but it still is present in many teams/performances.

hahahaha that can't be the right answer! i hope not! lol cos that would just be retarded! N' no disrespect to your post what-so-ever! ;)

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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2011, 02:30:17 AM »
No disrespect taken; however, I'm  basing my assumption off of color psychology.
According to http://www.infoplease.com/spot/colors1.html, red is
"[t]he most emotionally intense color, red stimulates a faster heartbeat and breathing. It is also the color of love. Red clothing gets noticed and makes the wearer appear heavier." And according to http://psychology.about.com/od/sensationandperception/a/color_red.htm,
"Red is also considered an intense, or even angry, color that creates feelings of excitement or intensity."

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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2011, 02:36:06 AM »
Explain yourself?

if i knew...i wouldn't be asking these questions! N' his post just don't make sense all! he said RED sticks out more, have you seen our Josh performance? you know, yellow was something to look out for! N' i'M not favoring yellow to be the main jorri, its just i'M asking why RED! N' since you N' Manjot couldn't give me a better answer, i thought i'd ask others!

so you agree with this bull situation? lol dude...u can't be serious? this answer can't be right! thats all i have to say! :-\

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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2011, 02:38:49 AM »
Explain yourself?

if i knew...i wouldn't be asking these questions! N' his post just don't make sense all! he said RED sticks out more, have you seen our Josh performance? you know, yellow was something to look out for! N' i'M not favoring yellow to be the main jorri, its just i'M asking why RED! N' since you N' Manjot couldn't give me a better answer, i thought i'd ask others!

so you agree with this bull situation? lol dude...u can't be serious? this answer can't be right! thats all i have to say! :-\

p.s. don't start a war with me with your big words :P
LOL. yeah it is true about the bull theory and the fact that red incites anger or speed. Why do you think certain businesses sue the color red for their establishments? It promotes quickness, makes people wanna go fast.
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2011, 02:39:14 AM »
No disrespect taken; however, I'm  basing my assumption off of color psychology.
According to http://www.infoplease.com/spot/colors1.html, red is
"[t]he most emotionally intense color, red stimulates a faster heartbeat and breathing. It is also the color of love. Red clothing gets noticed and makes the wearer appear heavier." And according to http://psychology.about.com/od/sensationandperception/a/color_red.htm,
"Red is also considered an intense, or even angry, color that creates feelings of excitement or intensity."


but can this really be the reason behind "RED jorri" :o  N' thanks for info! :D
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2011, 02:41:05 AM »
i guess red is traditionally considered the "main" color, but on my teams red has usually never been the main color except maybe once. some teams like sgpd dont even really have a main jodi it seems, nj is similar in rotating dancers (seniors).
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2011, 02:44:06 AM »
LOL. yeah it is true about the bull theory and the fact that red incites anger or speed. Why do you think certain businesses sue the color red for their establishments? It promotes quickness, makes people wanna go fast.

Chall yaar, tera answer vi apne kol rakh leynda aa but i'MMa ask an old judge, maybe he/she can give me an honest answer N' since RED has to be the main jorri at all time, isn't that disrespecting other colors/jorriyans? just curious! i guess rest of the colors r just there to waste time! lMAO ::)

p.s. every team should have RED colored outfits from now on! :P
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2011, 02:45:55 AM »
i guess red is traditionally considered the "main" color, but on my teams red has usually never been the main color except maybe once. some teams like sgpd dont even really have a main jodi it seems, nj is similar in rotating dancers (seniors).


Thats' how it should be! ;D  but . . . some folks just can't agree to it! lol :o
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Re: Why can't we do this?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2011, 02:48:46 AM »
Interesting topic...
 
With the turla, could it just be aesthetics?  I mean when you look at a dancer make movements with his head, the front turla generally looks more pleasing from the audience's perspective because it appears to have a greater surface area from their point of view when watching from their seats (even though the surface area of the front and side turlas are probably about the same).  Due to the audience's perception of the surface area of the turla, the front turla stands out more than a side turla would and makes the head movements seem more emphasized. 
 
That's all I can come up with.  Doesn't really seem like anything would be wrong with tying side turlas, just that it comes down to aesthetics and trendiness. 
 
 
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