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Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« on: November 26, 2009, 03:16:56 PM »
Ranvir from Bhangra Nation has been contacting me saying they have signed forms from each team (registration forms) that grant Bhangra Nation video rights/copyright.  Therefore he wants the video links (to Youtube) removed from BTF (within 24 hours! :o).  Although the copyright infringer here is Youtube, BN still wants the links off BTF.

I've repeatedly asked for scans of these signed forms so I can confirm Ranvir possesses a copyright over the videos, in which case I'll gladly remove the links.  However, Bhangra Nation's "copyright company" advises Ranvir he does not need to provide me with these documents, only tell me to remove the videos within 24 hours.

It seems good faith has fallen through here.. Can any teams confirm such paperwork was signed? Can anyone provide me with this paperwork? I run this free site out of my love for the Bhangra community, and would appreciate a litigation-free Holiday Season.

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PS - At this point, having not been provided the papers, and 2-3 teams have said there are no such papers, I'm interested to see if these papers ever existed.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 04:17:44 PM by Saleem »
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« on: November 26, 2009, 03:16:56 PM »

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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »
and the bhangranation drama continues haha...

I'll talk to Krishna (captains) and get let him know to check BTF asap aight man?

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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2009, 03:32:02 PM »
Thank you.  So far I've talked to 2 teams and neither is aware of any such rights to video or first-born that they signed away.  This would all be easily resolved if Bhangra Nation forwards me the documents they claim they have, as I have requested.  I really have no dog in this fight, but I refuse to be pressured to modify content on BTF unless it's against the rules or against the law.
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2009, 03:36:43 PM »
youtube seems to have alread took down the vids...


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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2009, 03:39:49 PM »
no they have to provide the document we didn;t even dsign any photo release documents for them to record us in the first plaacee here our video F*** NATION

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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2009, 03:49:06 PM »
copyright infringement? if the teams were given more documents after they were accepted or at the competition i guess they might have point... but based on just the reg packet and acceptance letter there is no discussion of copyrights or videos... i guess they are coming up with new rules because they can:

BN Reg Packet:
**Bhangra Nation Directors reserve the right to implement any new rule(s) or regulation(s) necessary for the World Bhangra.

oh well - the vids are already taken down from youtube so i guess they should be happy now lol no need to sue anyone  :P
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2009, 04:01:07 PM »


BN Reg Packet:
**Bhangra Nation Directors reserve the right to implement any new rule(s) or regulation(s) necessary for the World Bhangra.


LOL i dont they can make a rule like that
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2009, 04:05:22 PM »


BN Reg Packet:
**Bhangra Nation Directors reserve the right to implement any new rule(s) or regulation(s) necessary for the World Bhangra.


LOL i dont they can make a rule like that

They wouldn't be able to make a rule like that, that'd be a bitch move on their part. But Saleem has a point, he doesn't have to do anything until presented with the copyright information. Saleem can remove the link on good faith, but really...he doesn't have to until he was presented something along those lines. Like, Boston Bhangra can do that because I feel they would actually share that information.

Come on BN! ...the videos weren't even of good quality either.

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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009, 04:18:28 PM »
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 10:56:48 PM »
LOL nation is wayyy to money hungry. It's their performances let them do wutever the F*k they want with their own vids.

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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 11:03:56 PM »
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 11:09:00 PM »
I was forwarded the Bhangra Nation Registration Packet (attached). I see no reference to video rights. I will e-mail Bhangra Nation to sort out this interesting and surprising discrepancy.
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 11:48:44 PM »
I was forwarded the Bhangra Nation Registration Packet (attached). I see no reference to video rights. I will e-mail Bhangra Nation to sort out this interesting and surprising discrepancy.

They dont reply back
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 11:59:48 PM »
for a competition in its 13th  year they seem to have pretty bad organization, with the stage, questionable judges(not calling any teams out on the placings or anything), now this.

wouldn't be surprised if this is its final year..
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 01:54:08 AM »
They can disqualify you and take away prizes if you talk smack about them on BTF. Its in the registration packet. Perhaps that is why I haven't written a review... but probably more so because I have been busy.

It infuriated me when they took down the Youtube videos. No such documents exist. Teams need to be notified in a timely fashion if new rules are made and such rules need to be implemented before the teams agree to perform at the competition. What prevents them from saying "teams may not use the routine used at our competition at any other competitions" a few months after the competition?

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 10:38:10 AM »
They can disqualify you and take away prizes if you talk smack about them on BTF. Its in the registration packet. Perhaps that is why I haven't written a review... but probably more so because I have been busy.

It infuriated me when they took down the Youtube videos. No such documents exist. Teams need to be notified in a timely fashion if new rules are made and such rules need to be implemented before the teams agree to perform at the competition. What prevents them from saying "teams may not use the routine used at our competition at any other competitions" a few months after the competition?

Kinnell :P He cant take away anything from us.. we didnt even place remember heh..

ranvirs a loser.. I remember walking outside after the placings were done and a friend of his for 25 YEARS!! came up to me sympathizing, telling us how we should have placed and he was acting like he wasnt even surprised that this happened.. we talked for a few minutes but hes tellin me how ranvir's Content Removed always been doing shit like this. I think this is the last year for bhangra nation and I do hope so.. Its a very poorly run competition and it sucks wasting all that time making a set for a rigged competition. Content Removed


oh yah and more on topic.. we didnt sign shit

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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 10:53:09 AM »
Anyone else notice, BN 13......final year, they're apart of the illuminati
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 11:06:13 AM »
Anyone else notice, BN 13......final year, they're apart of the illuminati

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 01:26:58 PM »
lol @ this whole mess.
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Re: Bhangra Nation Teams' Help Needed: Copyright?
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2009, 04:44:38 PM »
No response from Bhangra Nation ;) I'm un-pinning this topic... Until next year, when we get to relive the dream.
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