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Newer Teams Competition?
« on: December 12, 2009, 07:17:54 PM »
Anyone ever think about starting up a competition that is restricted only to teams that have been in existence for say under a certain time limit, maybe 5 years

I was just thinking about this because i notice ALOT of competitions have EXTREMELY similar lineup's with EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED and talented teams that have been in existence for a REALLY long time

although it may be interesting to see some never before seen NEW teams, or to see how teams have improved...

Last Year at Fever there were a couple of teams that were fairly new, and to be honest, I was really impressed, and then when reviewing their recent videos, I was even more impressed to see how exponentially they've improved, and how they grew from their experiences....

Idk what other's thoughts are on this

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« on: December 12, 2009, 07:17:54 PM »

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 07:20:48 PM »
Similarly, I also think itd be interesting to hold an old teams competiton, maybe teams that have been in existence for over 25-30 years...sorta digressing here, but yeah.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 07:30:06 PM »
maybe setting rules which imposes such restrictions could aid in that "tier" system which could eventually lead to an official "hero/mega" competition which declares "the best bhangra team of the year"? lol, sorry... i just typed whatever came to mind

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 07:31:19 PM »
This was dhamaka basically from last year. Lot of people gave anil flak at the time but i think it was a great move and a lot of teams got a chance to spotlight themselves

But yea, a lot of the lineup issue is also that there are so few comps on the east coast anyway and over 30-40 teams applying to each one
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 07:31:26 PM »
Similarly, I also think itd be interesting to hold an old teams competiton, maybe teams that have been in existence for over 25-30 years...sorta digressing here, but yeah.

lol i cant speak for the canadian academies and how old those communities are but I know a lot of the 'old school' collegiate teams only started 10-15 years ago. Cornell I think was in 1997.. Blowout is prolly the oldest competition and that started in '94.  I dont know of any teams that have been around for 25-30 years ! :D

Also correct me if I'm wrong but I think SGPD is 5 years old lol prepare yourself... :D
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 07:31:43 PM »
Similarly, I also think itd be interesting to hold an old teams competiton, maybe teams that have been in existence for over 25-30 years...sorta digressing here, but yeah.

umm who's that old?
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 07:33:20 PM »
This was dhamaka basically from last year. Lot of people gave anil flak at the time but i think it was a great move and a lot of teams got a chance to spotlight themselves

But yea, a lot of the lineup issue is also that there are so few comps on the east coast anyway and over 30-40 teams applying to each one


I think the flak came from having mostly newer teams and then a couple (relative) powerful teams.  All new guys would have been better.
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 07:39:45 PM »
Swi

i definitely agree with you, i know Dhamaka was one of the first several competitions Bing Bhangra competed in...

and as for the Northeast dilemma, that I can agree with as well...

as for all the aspects Saleem elucidated on, definitely am shocked...
i wasnt aware how young some teams like Cornell and SGPD were...

perhaps my question could be tweaked and asked again just with different numbers replacing the "25-30" and the "5" lol
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 08:04:48 PM »
I feel like restricting by years of existence is only really valid for collegiate teams. Independent teams can round up any dancers that they can get, some of whom have been dancing for years.  Look at what Saleem said about SGPD.  For collegiate teams, though, it makes much more sense because interest has to be established over the years, and the program has to be built up and promoted, as people rarely pick a school based on the skill of their Bhangra team (or so I imagine... VCU? :P).  Even some college teams can be screwed, as a program that's been around for 10+ years could have a really bad year, or no solid captains, etc.  I know Rochester started in the late 90s and then disappeared for a few years, then picked up again in 2004ish.  Are we five years old, or eleven?  I definitely hear what you're saying, and it sounds like something that could be done, but I think it would almost have to be an invitational type thing, some sort of "Rising Stars Bhangra" thing, maybe. I dunno, just throwing stuff out there.

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 08:08:05 PM »
i guess its hard to hold a restriction on an event like this just with numbers...like you can't say 'have to have ___ years of experience or less'....look at SGPD theyre all experienced dancers which is why they got together so well yet are so young...


Maybe by hosting a competition like this you could say judging committees are only going to be picking 'newer teams'

the only thing that comes to mind is who would enjoy going to competitions like this? I don't meean to sound like an ass but if you saw BIG names like SGPD, PANJ,VCU, etc. your going to WANT to go to that competition. Whereas if you see teams that don't exactly have that much experience it might almost be....boring to watch? I think it would be intersting...but I'm just bringing up a challenge ethat an organizer would have to face. People might not be attracted to such a competition and tickets won't sell as well...

But I like the idea....with so many new teams out there these days, everyone should get a chance to showcase their hard work and talent :D

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 08:12:39 PM »
Similarly, I also think itd be interesting to hold an old teams competiton, maybe teams that have been in existence for over 25-30 years...sorta digressing here, but yeah.

lol i cant speak for the canadian academies and how old those communities are but I know a lot of the 'old school' collegiate teams only started 10-15 years ago. Cornell I think was in 1997.. Blowout is prolly the oldest competition and that started in '94.  I dont know of any teams that have been around for 25-30 years ! :D

Also correct me if I'm wrong but I think SGPD is 5 years old lol prepare yourself... :D

SGPD is very recent. I had never heard of them before 2006. I would consider a 5 year old team "old". LBC is about 6 years old. Khalsa Junction is only 7 or 8 years. IF you're saying hold a competition for NEW teams that are 1.5 years or younger then you've got something. I would say an that most consistent teams nowadays are AT LEAST 2 years old (excluding new)
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 08:15:02 PM »
How about for once make the BIG NAMES as exhibition acts and a competition with new teams. The organizers can still pay the team as if it was a gig...

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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 08:46:58 PM »
there should be a solo competiton :$
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 10:23:37 PM »
there should be a solo competiton :$
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 10:50:11 PM »
Similarly, I also think itd be interesting to hold an old teams competiton, maybe teams that have been in existence for over 25-30 years...sorta digressing here, but yeah.

lol i cant speak for the canadian academies and how old those communities are but I know a lot of the 'old school' collegiate teams only started 10-15 years ago. Cornell I think was in 1997.. Blowout is prolly the oldest competition and that started in '94.  I dont know of any teams that have been around for 25-30 years ! :D

Also correct me if I'm wrong but I think SGPD is 5 years old lol prepare yourself... :D

SGPD is very recent. I had never heard of them before 2006. I would consider a 5 year old team "old". LBC is about 6 years old. Khalsa Junction is only 7 or 8 years. IF you're saying hold a competition for NEW teams that are 1.5 years or younger then you've got something. I would say an that most consistent teams nowadays are AT LEAST 2 years old (excluding new)

sgpd's bin around since like 2001. i remember them at like jawani and small jamsss that were in toronto way back

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 11:13:50 PM »
I feel like it'd be hard to pull something like this off, since.. well.. teams don't have birth certificates lol.

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 11:19:36 PM »
How about for once make the BIG NAMES as exhibition acts and a competition with new teams. The organizers can still pay the team as if it was a gig...

that'd definitely be a good idea and it would sort of counter act the idea that people may have that the competition may be boring if there are no big names in it...

Yeah, i definitely see all of the different obstacles that are involved in it...but yeah, just an idea
cause ahmad your definitely right bro, with so many new teams out there everyone should get a chance to showcase it

i mean look at all of the different responses on SGPD some people say their a few years old while

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sgpd's bin around since like 2001. i remember them at like jawani and small jamsss that were in toronto way back

which just shows that perhaps there are new teams out there that are great, we just dont know it yet, but yeah definitely all valid statements about how complicated it could get to organize such a competition, especially the comment about how you can evaluate a teams "existence"

being that many are around then stop then come back, etc.

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 11:25:18 PM »
yeaa markhamm:D
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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 11:29:20 PM »
i really like this idea...someone mkae it happen!!!

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Re: Newer Teams Competition?
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 11:38:38 PM »
What would you do about collegiate teams that have been established for quite some time, but whose dancers recycle every few years? With new dancers come a "new" team, right? Where would they fall into this?