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Dr. Murray sentencing
« on: November 29, 2011, 02:35:23 PM »
What are some people's thoughts on Dr. Murray getting 4 years in prison?

Too harsh? Should of been probation and only some jail?

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Dr. Murray sentencing
« on: November 29, 2011, 02:35:23 PM »

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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »
wayy harsh, for 150k a month what doctor wouldn't do it. If it wasn't Murray MJ would've just went to a different doctor who would prescribe him all the drugs he wanted.

Either way now hes probably only going to do 2 years and then some probation.
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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 05:24:43 PM »
its hard to make a definitive statement as to what it should have been, because the case had so many nuances. but i think no matter how much money, 150k or 500k, murray was making, he definitely turned a blind eye to what MJ was doing solely for profit. any way you look at it, clear malpractice. if he knew that there was even a chance that MJ was self medicating, he shouldve confronted MJ about it or quit. its not like if he had quit he wouldve been out of a job for long as a concierge doc for celebrities. in that regard i dont have a whole lot of sympathy for murray

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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 11:24:39 PM »
Totally deserves it. I work in ORs on a daily basis. When you induce a patient, you often use propofol to sort of complete the induction of a patient. When you combine it with Valium and Lorazepam like Murray did, you're essentially anesthetizing someone. I look at it from that standpoint. If an anesthesiologist left the OR in the middle of a case without a resident, fellow or CRNA (nurse anesthetist) watching the patient, it would be criminally negligent. An anesthesia provider is legally responsible for keeping their patient alive. If a patient dies on the table due to their anesthetist leaving the room, the anesthetist is criminally liable. Add to this the fact that Murray likely would have been operating outside of his legal scope of practice by administering anesthesia, and you better believe he deserves to go to jail for what he did. It's simply unconscionable.

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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 12:28:05 AM »
Conrad Murray fell into his own greed and continued doing what he clearly knew was wrong, for that he should definitely be punished. However MJs death was inevitable, he was a sick man. No one wants to admit it because it's Michael Jackson, a man that will always be referred to as the king of pop. Look back at the years I mean wigs, fake noses, bleached skin or his so called "disorder", baby over the balcony, or the molestation cases, even if all these things aren't true you cant admit that the man was normal. I wouldn't be surprised if drugs were the case for the past 10 years. MJ was slowly dying and it was only a matter of time before he did. Murray got caught in the crossfire and people just needed someone to blame. Murray should definitely be punished clearly what he did was against the law and he should have known better, but for 150k shit some people wouldn't think twice if the chance of being caught was barely anything. All I'm saying is if it wasn't Murray it would just be some other guy all over the news being blamed for MJ's death. Money can make a man block out all guilt, and he was racking in 150 big ones monthly, 150 THOUSAND DOLLARS MONTHLY, MJ wasn't just his employer he controlled every decision there was to make. Play it out MJ asks for more prescriptions and Murray saying no, just wont happen lol MJ's going to say wtf am I paying you for, Murray would get fired and MJ will just get another doc. One that just does what he's told. The news portrayed it as "Dr. Murray prescribed propofol and diprivan and this n that" Murray just did what he was told, MJ was the addict, Murray was the dealer.Cmon folks lets be real. MJ killed himself.
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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 05:44:58 PM »
That's beside the point. Yes, it seems like Jackson was an addict, but as soon as Murray starts giving him drugs, he legally takes on responsibility for his patient (Jackson). Whether or not he was Jackson's pusher, he'd be responsible for making sure Jackson stayed alive under the letter of the law. That's a fact.

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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 06:47:13 PM »
Conrad Murray fell into his own greed and continued doing what he clearly knew was wrong, for that he should definitely be punished. However MJs death was inevitable, he was a sick man. No one wants to admit it because it's Michael Jackson, a man that will always be referred to as the king of pop. Look back at the years I mean wigs, fake noses, bleached skin or his so called "disorder", baby over the balcony, or the molestation cases, even if all these things aren't true you cant admit that the man was normal. I wouldn't be surprised if drugs were the case for the past 10 years. MJ was slowly dying and it was only a matter of time before he did. Murray got caught in the crossfire and people just needed someone to blame. Murray should definitely be punished clearly what he did was against the law and he should have known better, but for 150k shit some people wouldn't think twice if the chance of being caught was barely anything. All I'm saying is if it wasn't Murray it would just be some other guy all over the news being blamed for MJ's death. Money can make a man block out all guilt, and he was racking in 150 big ones monthly, 150 THOUSAND DOLLARS MONTHLY, MJ wasn't just his employer he controlled every decision there was to make. Play it out MJ asks for more prescriptions and Murray saying no, just wont happen lol MJ's going to say wtf am I paying you for, Murray would get fired and MJ will just get another doc. One that just does what he's told. The news portrayed it as "Dr. Murray prescribed propofol and diprivan and this n that" Murray just did what he was told, MJ was the addict, Murray was the dealer.Cmon folks lets be real. MJ killed himself.


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MJ was an amli and pagal. Sucks Murray is getting all the heat in the cross fire just because MJ was a psycho.

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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 07:05:36 PM »
You can't put a price tag on your good conscience ... but Murray did for about a low $2 mill a year. That might sound like a good "deal" but if he stopped to think about it logically and ethically, he would have realized he was essentially helping Michael Jackson stay very unhealthy and in the risk of dying. Sure, if it wasn't him it would have been another doctor, but now that MJ is dead was a $150,000/month salary worth letting your patient and "friend" die under your watch? Probably not, and now he has to pay for it.

The sentencing might seem unprecedented or extreme but this should be an example to everyone going against their professional and personal moral code just to feed their greed and short term satisfaction.
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Re: Dr. Murray sentencing
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 04:46:54 PM »
It's not unprecedented or extreme though. Pretty routine for criminal negligence, actually.