from what i heard he was sitting along side of Shri guru granth sahib ji and have people matha take to him instead of guru granth sahib and atleat someone had the guts to stand up and do something about it and not just complain i wish someone would do the same to dera sacha sudha guy RAM RAHIM

http://apnaorg.com/research-papers/harish-1/

This is a really good paper to read about the Dalits since post partition.

TheBraveOne:

In Sikhism there are 10 Guru's and the Guru Granth Sahib we can have alot of respect for individuals who we can calls sants or holy men but no one can be called a guru and compare themselves to the original 10 gurus.  So I think our Guru's would expect us Sikhs to spread their word and with time these fake sants will disappear.

ComptonDaJatt:

Being alienated from the panth is a problem because in the end no matter how we look at it we are to take the words of Guru Granth Sahib as our orders and any Guru's saying is just as highly regarded.  Guru Gobind Singh asked every Sikh to become a part of the Khalsa and we may all be avoiding that aspect of our religion and we all find excuses but it is not the fault of our Guru's.  Point is that if people are alienated or feeling alienated then it is the job of those who have been initiated to help them reach that goal of Khalsa, if individuals don't want to be amritdhari then they shouldn't bash on Sikhi and create their own man made ideas.  It seems as if people want to live the life of the Khalsa without the dress code of the Khalsa.  There is no medium here.

We as Sikhs need to stick to our bana and be the Sikhs that Guru Gobind Singh Ji had wanted, only then can we stand up and face all the opression and opposition being created against the Sikhs.

TheBraveOne:

In Sikhism there are 10 Guru's and the Guru Granth Sahib we can have alot of respect for individuals who we can calls sants or holy men but no one can be called a guru and compare themselves to the original 10 gurus.  So I think our Guru's would expect us Sikhs to spread their word and with time these fake sants will disappear.

1) Bro I know there were 10 gurus in human form all having the same jot...and now that jot is in DHAN DHAN SHRI GURU   
    GRANTH SAHIB JI...
2) I am not comparing Anyone To our Gurus....
3) I only said what is in our bani

When you bow your head to Guru Granth Sahib Ji...are you not bowing your head to Bhagat Kabeer Ji? Baba Fareed Ji? Bhagat Ravidas Ji? Bhagat Peepa Ji?
If you accept Guru Granth Sahib Ji as your Guru, then you are accepting ALL the bani in it as your guru..because our Guru is Shabad
 

Yah you are right...If you call yourself a sikh...your only guru is guru granth sahib ji.. and you follow the mariyada guru gobind singh ji gave us. I agree with you.
I was abit confused......what i was trying to say was that in the past there were people who made Bhagat Ravidas, Bhagat Kabeer Ji their guru, and those followers did find waheguru, and guru granth sahib ji reinforces that these bhagats spoke of the truth.

i am not disagreeing with you, i am saying that there were people before guru nanak dev ji's time who made these bhagats their guru, and in return they found akal purakh.
 

Also, the Ravidassis really should not be saying they separated from Sikhism because of the whole caste issue. This just shows how much they don't know about Sikhism. Yes, some people are culturally inclined to bring up caste, but caste has nothing to do with Sikhism. Langar was created so people could all eat at the same level. This is also why Guru Gobind Singh began the use of Singh as Kaur. A Sikh is a Singh or a Kaur, not a Jatt or Dalit.

I know that is the ideal thing to say but the reality is that lower caste converts on a whole were always seen with mistrust by so called upper-caste Sikhs. There has always been friction and Dalits have been treated by less than full Sikhs by a lot of people. I am not sure for the reasons for it but part of it is probably because pre Singh Sabha movement there were many different people who identified themselves as Sikhs but not members of Khalsa Panth and afterwards people started to cast doubt on the Sikhness of Dalits because they had their own traditions they followed parrallel to Sikhism. No different that other Punjabi communities like Jatts who would also worship pirs and ancestor worship along with Sikhism. From what I have gleaned with my limited resources the problem is just that there is a lot of mistrust between both sides and there is no one really stepping up on either side to address this. Probably because SAD, SPGC have alliances with these Deras across Punjab.

All I can say is wow! And that guy had thousands of supporters too. Its insane that people can actually follow that conformity. Has it gotten any better over there yet?