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In case you forgot
« on: October 31, 2011, 08:55:12 PM »

"There was a quiet little girl at a refugee camp, who used to listen to stories Safina and other volunteers told and very often would sit in Safina's lap too. But whenever this child drew on paper, she always used the colours yellow and orange; Safina soon found out that this little girl actually held her father's hand while he was doused by the rioters and burnt to death.[/size]"[/color]


Its been 27 years since the Indian government sponsored riots across India to kill Sikhs.



A friend shared this story today [forgive the politics if it makes you angry]:

i'm eating a gulab jamun
  that i was handed
  with:
"eat it. indira gandhi is dead"


http://www.ensaaf.org/publications/reports/20years/
http://www.sanjayausta.com/media/they-lost-their-childhood-to-the-1984-anti-sikh-riots/
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Words-Violence-Ordinary-Lilienthal/dp/0520247450
http://www.sikhsforjustice.org/




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Re: In case you forgot
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 09:00:47 PM »
Coward Gandhi family.


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Re: In case you forgot
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, 10:36:56 PM »
i watched this on pbs a couple months ago, great documentary about genocides

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/worse-than-war/the-film/watch-worse-than-war/24/

politics and the government can easily be blamed for all the atrocities that have occurred since the partition, what sucks is that most people who grew up during that time choose to forget it, i've never heard my parents discuss 84. it's like the older generation just wants to forget about it and move on. typical behavior i've seen over an over again, punjabis tend to just disregard certain things unless they were directly affected; it might have to do with the fact that the overall punjabi community if fragmented into castes, religions, and communities. i think it's changing because of the youth, especially pardesi youth because it seems like our generation wants to know what really happened and why.

what's really pathetic is that the sikh spirit is to come back stronger once a blow has been dealt, but looking at the state of modern punjab, i don't see that. instead of being strong seems like the sikhs of punjab have become fat, lazy, corrupt, and dependent on alcohol and drugs. you can't really fight back or try to show your strength when you've made yourself into a joke.
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Re: In case you forgot
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2011, 10:45:30 PM »
i watched this on pbs a couple months ago, great documentary about genocides

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/worse-than-war/the-film/watch-worse-than-war/24/

politics and the government can easily be blamed for all the atrocities that have occurred since the partition, what sucks is that most people who grew up during that time choose to forget it, i've never heard my parents discuss 84. it's like the older generation just wants to forget about it and move on. typical behavior i've seen over an over again, punjabis tend to just disregard certain things unless they were directly affected; it might have to do with the fact that the overall punjabi community if fragmented into castes, religions, and communities. i think it's changing because of the youth, especially pardesi youth because it seems like our generation wants to know what really happened and why.

what's really pathetic is that the sikh spirit is to come back stronger once a blow has been dealt, but looking at the state of modern punjab, i don't see that. instead of being strong seems like the sikhs of punjab have become fat, lazy, corrupt, and dependent on alcohol and drugs. you can't really fight back or try to show your strength when you've made yourself into a joke.

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Re: In case you forgot
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 10:50:13 PM »

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Re: In case you forgot
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2011, 11:25:30 PM »
i watched this on pbs a couple months ago, great documentary about genocides

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/worse-than-war/the-film/watch-worse-than-war/24/

politics and the government can easily be blamed for all the atrocities that have occurred since the partition, what sucks is that most people who grew up during that time choose to forget it, i've never heard my parents discuss 84. it's like the older generation just wants to forget about it and move on. typical behavior i've seen over an over again, punjabis tend to just disregard certain things unless they were directly affected; it might have to do with the fact that the overall punjabi community if fragmented into castes, religions, and communities. i think it's changing because of the youth, especially pardesi youth because it seems like our generation wants to know what really happened and why.

what's really pathetic is that the sikh spirit is to come back stronger once a blow has been dealt, but looking at the state of modern punjab, i don't see that. instead of being strong seems like the sikhs of punjab have become fat, lazy, corrupt, and dependent on alcohol and drugs. you can't really fight back or try to show your strength when you've made yourself into a joke.



It is very easy for people of our generation to say the older generation should talk about the Partition or '84, but it is much harder for people of those generations to verbalize or express the atrocities and pain they felt and still feel to this day. They aren't simply forgetting, and I don't think it is our place to tell them how to heal. You have to respect it if someone is not willing to speak on the things they saw, and it is our responsibility to educate ourselves on the history of these movements and understand the larger impact and reasons they happened and continue to happen. It is good to ask, but lets not pass judgement on our elders because many have been unwilling to tell their stories.

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Re: In case you forgot
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2011, 11:30:20 PM »
Here is an account of the atrocities many in our community went through. We can't begin to fathom their strength and courage:

http://sikhchic.com/article-detail.php?cat=21&id=2848