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Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« on: June 06, 2009, 03:10:06 PM »
Today is the 25 year anniversary of the storming of the golden temple

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Operation Bluestar-25 years later
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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 07:17:38 PM »
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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 09:26:22 PM »
I'm surprised there is not more discussion on this?  I know several people on this site are knowledgeable in Indian and Sikh history, of course including the events of 1984.  Personally I know the general history but am no expert.  Certainly the violence that transpired will remain a scar on India's history for decades to come, hopefully as a warning to the future of how bad things can get.
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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 10:25:48 PM »
1984...Wut? 

Come June, year after year the atrocities that occurred in 1984 have been brought up by our community and 1000s of Sikh communities around the world...in fact, for 25 years to be exact.

Why? Do we really know what happened?

A common answer is along the lines, "sort of...but not really...wasn't Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple) attacked and people died?... I think that’s it…"

So What Happened?

10 Quick Facts that Speak for Themselves
 & Why YOU Should Care:

-June 1st 1984 the Indian Government launched a full scale assault on 40 Gurdwaras in Punjab. Not just Darbar Sahib in Amritsar.
A media blackout was placed. All journalists, local, national and international were escorted out of the city.
Conservative reputable reports state a minimum of 10,000 to 20,000 casualties. This number is conservative in light that on Gurpurb, Darbar Sahib is crammed with over 100,000 people...only a few thousand people (pilgrims/civilians) survived the attack...
Bodies were being brought in municipal garbage trucks round the clock since early 6 June. We have been really busy. To add to our woes, we don't have enough wood to burn the dead. - Brahma Challaney, Associate Press of America (citing an employee on duty at Amritsar's crematorium)

-The government claims the attack was a last resort to cease the "terrorists" - however it has been openly reported by Generals themselves that about 18 months prior to the attack, a replica of the Darbar Sahib was built for training and preparation.

-October 31st 1984 - Indira Gandhi is assassinated. That night organized political mobs are collected and directed to specific areas of Delhi with lists of Sikh persons and families. Voting lists are used. All mobs are given kerosene, knives, stakes and other weapons. Their order: destroy homes, business and places of worship and to kill, loot, rape and torture on sight.

-Between October 31st and November 3rd, over 50,000 Sikhs were displaced. Anywhere from 4,000- approximates at 10,000, were killed and/or raped.

-State protection was denied. Sikh policemen (20% of the force in Delhi) were locked up during the atrocities. The organized pogroms were called 'understandable riots' and silenced. In 25 years...No Justice has been served through the Indian judiciary system. 
Those who have been found undeniably Directly responsible by numerous reports, human rights commissions and investigations - have in fact been promoted up the political latter and protected.

-2002 saw the similar state organized pogroms against the Muslims of Gujarat, up to thousands were killed....again...No Justice has been served - those found to be Directly responsible have been protected. Impunity is the norm.

-All this in the country that claims to be the "largest democracy in the world.”

When we speak up against 1984:

·   We speak up against all state propagated violence- Not only violence against Sikhs. 

·  We speak up against impunity

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 10:54:43 PM »
check out these videos.

http://www.neverforget84.com/videos.php


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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 11:04:24 PM »
one quote that sickens me about the so called largest democracy.

"To preserve the unity of India, if we have to eradicate 20 million sikhs, we will do so"-Balram Jakhar, former Indian Cabinet Minister and speaker of the Indian Parliament.





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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 03:11:00 AM »
It is a tragedy of epic proportions and justice still has not been served. I pray an Udham Singh will rise and carry out some vigilante justice someday.

I picked this book up in India,"Blue Star Over Amritsar", amazing read. http://www.indiaclub.com/shop/SearchResults.asp?ProdStock=22314

Probably the most fairhanded book written on the subject. If anyone gets a chance to read this book they wont be able to put it down. Every page breaks your heart even more.

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 03:24:29 AM »
i got this mail a while back... thought i'd share..


Introduction

This is based on an interview with Bhai Sukhvant Singh Jalalabad, a prisoner in Nabha Jail. He fought in the June 1984 attack on Darbar Sahib. Bhai Sukhvant Singh began staying with Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale in 1982 along with 11 other young men from his village. Later, six of those Singhs would become shahids during Bluestar and the rest were arrested and sent to Jodhpur Jail. Bhai Sukhvant Singh was released in 1989 and joined the Sikh Resistance Movement. He was arrested and sent back to jail in 1997 where he has remained since, except for a brief four-month release in 2000. This is his account of the attack and how he and other Singhs fought back:

June 4th, 1984

On June 4th, at amrit vela, as the sweet sound of keertan was coming from Darbar Sahib, unexpectedly at 4.15am, a loud explosion was heard. It felt as though this explosion had taken place right near us. This was a signal for the bombing to begin. This all was part of a very carefully hatched plan by the Indian Government to attack the Sikhs’ most important centre. All of a sudden a hail of bullets began to fly. All us Singhs became alert right away. We were about 20 Singhs in the Sindhi Hotel, which was near the Langar building.



By daybreak, all the placements that had been made at high places had been completely obliterated. It’s important to say here that whatever placements had been made before June 3rd, and the government had noticed, were completely destroyed. Only those positions remained intact that had been made after June 3rd and which the government was unaware about.

Gen. Shabegh Singh spent the entire night of June 3rd making new positions and those were the ones that caused to most damage to the army.

We came to a lower level of the Hotel and made new positions in the rooms and with our weapons we took them up. The bullets were flying at us so quickly that we couldn’t fire back.

We got in contact with the Langar Building and this was where Bhai Amrik Singh and Baba Thara Singh were commanding operations. They sent us a message at the Sindhi Hotel to leave there and to come to the Langar where all the Singhs would be gathering to fight together. This was because the Sindhi Hotel could have been surrounded at any time.

The Langar Building

At about 11am, we left the Sindhi Hotel and went to the Langar. There all the Singhs gathered and had a meeting where different positions were assigned. I and some other Singhs were given our duty at the Burj, but when we got there, there was a storm of bullets being fired at it. The Burj was swaying and it seemed that it could fall at any moment. Inside it, the dust made it impossible to breathe. Our position here could not be successful so we came back to the Langar Building. So many bullets were being fired that no one could leave their morcha. But we would only shoot when we had a soldier in our sights. All of us were in contact with each other and we would go to each others morchas. If someone needed ammunition we could get it.


Burj

All night the fighting continued but the army did not have the courage to advance on foot. At around midnight, four helicopters began to hover around Darbar Sahib. They tried to drop Commandos but the Singhs with their fire did not let them. A helicopter hovered over the Langar Building for quite some time as well and Bhai Amrik Singh grabbed an LMG and fired at it. This one too couldn’t drop any Commandos.

The next day at around 5, the Langar building came under organized fire. Our placements on the top level were completely destroyed. Many Singhs were shahid and others were injured. There was no one to tend to the wounds but Guru Sahib was doing so much kirpa that the injured were still encouraging the rest of us to fight hard. The dead bodies of the Shaheed Singhs were lying in the placements but our hearts had become like stone and it didn’t matter anymore. In our hearts we all wanted to fight ill our final breath.

On the evening of June 5th, Bhai Amrik Singh and the others made a plan to go to Akal Takhat Sahib. We also got ready to go with Bhai Sahib because we had planned to bring ammunition from there.

Getting Ammo at Akal Takhat Sahib

Bhai Sahib and the rest of us went through the Parkarma, through a hail of bullets and reached Akal Takhat Sahib. We met Sant Mahapursh (Baba Jarnail Singh) there and he gave us a Fateh. Sant jee asked Bhai Amrik Singh about the Langar side and what was going on and he asked us if we were in “Chardi Kala�. We replied that we were all in Chardi Kala. Sant jee had a yellow keskee on his head and a Thompson Gun in his hands. He was in total Chardi Kala. We explained that we had come for ammunition and Sant jee told Bhai Rachhpal Singh to get us what we needed. Bhai Rachhpal Singh took us to the basement and we took as much ammunition as we could carry. We then returned to the Langar Building. After this, we lost all contact with Akal Takhat Sahib.


Baba Thara Singh, Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, Bhai Amrik Singh

We distributed the ammo and in total we were 60-70 Singhs at the Langar. There were bullets flying in every direction. We took up positions on the bottom most floor. As night fell, the Army sent 400 trained Commandos from the Ghanta Ghar gate, Baba Deep Singh gate and the Langar side. From the Langar side, we did not let even one Commando get into the Complex. On the other sides as well, not even one Commando survived. The army saw that they couldn’t advance by foot so around 11pm, tanks and armoured vehicles began to come from the Seraa(n) side. They fired a hail of bullets at the Langar as they advanced.

Us Singhs in the Langar, Baba Thara Singh, Bhai Surinder Singh, Bhai Major Singh (Nagoke), Bhai Balvinder Singh, Bhai Svaran Singh, Bhai Dalbir Singh, etc., had a meeting at the back side of the Langar Building. We decided to leave here and go to the Akal Takhat Sahib. Bhai Svaran Singh did an ardaas here that “Guru Sahib jio! Give use the strength to combat this enemy.�

Changing Positions

At 1am, we went into the parkarma via the Brahm Buta Akhara. Bullets were flying ahead of us. Bhai Svaran Singh and Bhai Dalbir Singh went into an adjoining room where there were many other Singhs from the Kar Seva Jatha. It’s important to say here that about 35 Kar Seva-vale Singhs had done an ardaas that “if Darbar Sahib is attacked, we will become shahids.�. Only four of these Singhs survived and they spent time with us in Jodhpur Jail. The rest all fought bravely and became Shahidi. The Jathedar, Baba Pehlvaan, whose name I have now forgotten, fought most bravely of all.


Bhai Major Singh Nagokae

Bhai Major Singh Nagokae separated from us and went into the underground room near the Langar that had a well in it. Fiver other Singhs also descended into this room. Bhai Major Singh had known about this place before and we too had gone there a couple times. They had stored food rations here. When we were taken to the prisoner camp, we found out that when on June 9th, Giani Zail Sinh came to Darbar Sahib, the Singhs fired on him from this room. One of Giani Zail’s bodyguards was killed but he himself survived. Major Singh and the others fought to the end. The army ended up martyring them with poison gas. Major Singh also had a major role in the killing of Nirankari Gurbachana that the Sangat does not know about.



Taking Shelter

When we began to move towards Akal Takhat Sahib, we only had about 20 Singhs left. The rest were all shahid. Instead of going directly towards Akal Takhat Sahib, we moved towards Dukh Bhanjani Beri because the firing was less in this area. Near here there is also an enclosure where women can do ishnaan. We put our shastar there. There was no position made here so we couldn’t continue to fight. We drank the water from the sarovar and quenched our thirst. We only had a few bullets left, the rest of the ammunition was exhausted. Just our weapons remained.

At amrit vela we began to discuss how we could move towards Akal Takhat Sahib. Baba Thara Singh was saying that if we reached there, we would have no problem getting more amo. All night the tanks had been entering the parkarma and in the DeoRee in front of the Langar, a tank was constantly firing shells. Inside the enclosure, we had taken up positions that if the army tried to enter, we would kill as many of them as possible before dying.

Bhai Surinder Singha nd Bhai Balvinder Singh along with 5 Singhs decided that they would swim through the sarovar to Darbar Sahib. After going to Darbar Sahib, they would run on the causeway to Akal Takhat Sahib. When the Singhs began to swim, we watched and in front of us, all were martyred and not even one made it across.

Shahidis of June 6th



On June 6th, at around 9 or 10am, we suddenly heard the cries of Jaikaarey. We thought that maybe the Sangat from outside had arrived but when we listened with more attention, we realised the shouts were coming from Akal Takhat Sahib. There were tanks standing in front of Akal Takhat Sahib and they had destroyed the building completely. Finally, Baba Thara Singh said to us, “we cannot fight tanks with bullets. If any of us can escape, they should try.�

At the suggestion of Baba Thara Singh, we threw our weapons (which were without ammo now) into the sarovar. Baba jee did ardaas that we would go outside and become Shahid. Baba jee asked the elderly to accompany him. He said if they were arrested it was fine, but if not, they would certainly be happy to be shahid. My uncle also accompanied Baba jee. The moment they stepped out, they were all shot dead.

We returned into the enclosure but the army realised there were people inside. They announced that if there was anyone inside, they should come out, otherwise they were opening fire. So at around 10am, 15 Singhs and some members of the Sangat came out, but this time the army did not open fire. They immediately began to beat us with sticks. I saw the bodies of Baba Thara Singh an my uncle lying there. We managed to survive.

Arrest



Our arms were tied behind our backs with our dastaars and the army began to beat us so badly that some Singhs died from their injuries. We were taken to the chhabeel near Manji Sahib Divaan Hall where a number of Singhs and embers of the Sangat were already sitting. We were made to sit with them on the parkarma. We heard from the soldiers here, while they were hitting us, “Your Bhindranwala tiger has been killed and we’ve won the battle.� We were silent and staring at Akaal Takthat Sahib. There were still tanks in front of Akaal Takhat Sahib and there was a tank directly behind all of us as well. If firing came from any direction, the tank would fire a hail of bullets in that direction. Night fell here.



Death of a Sikh Soldier

This night, a scene occurred in front of me that I will never forget and still passes through my eyes even today. One Bihari soldier was smoking and then threw the butt into the sarovar. A Sardar soldier was also standing there. There were some Sardar soldiers to be seen that day. The Sardar said to the Bihari, “Don’t throw the butt into the sarovar� but after smoking another, he threw the butt into the sarovar again and said, “What are you going to do?�. The Sardar took his carbine and blew the Bihari away. On top of a nearby tank, another Bihari soldier opened fire on the Sardar and ripped his body apart with bullets. He fell dead into the sarovar and his body began to float on the surface.



At that point, the Bihari captain ordered the tanks to run us over and kill us. The turned the tanks towards us but suddenly a Muslim Major came and he said in a loud voice, “What are you doing??!� The soldier on the tank said, “Our Captain Sahib has ordered us to kill them.� The Major replied that all these prisoners have been put on a list and if any are killed, the killer would be held responsible. He had the Biharis changed and the new posts began to make our lists. We asked the Major for water but he said that if we survived, we should consider ourselves lucky. We stayed there all night in this state. The Major came a few more times in the night to ask how we were. In the morning we were ordered to stand but because many of us were badly beaten, they fell over. They were then beaten more. In a line we were marched to the Seraa(n) area near Manji Sahib Divan Hall. On the way we saw that the bodies of the Sangat were everywhere and some were still screaming in pain. No one was listening to them. The Soldiers were only picking up their own dead and wounded.

Mistreatment



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The army then announced that whoever was still alive should come out. We saw rooms filled with bodies and they smelt very bad. We came out and this time we saw that along with the pilgrims were leaders of the Sikh Students Association. We saw Balvant Singh Ramuvalia there who was helping make lists. He tried to speak with an officer but that officer slapped him and knocked his turban off.

We saw the bodies of SGPC secretary Gurcharan Singh and Bugga Singh lying near some sacks of wheat. Where we were sitting we found out that some Sardar soldiers had come and taken the two and shot them dead. They said “you are th cause of all this� and executed them.

The Bihari soldiers were looking at the Sardar soldiers with suspicion and saying “they shot at us as well�.

Amritsar Army Camp



The night of June 7th arrived and we were taken by bus to Amritsar’s army camp. We were locked up in small rooms that were meant for ammunition. They were very tight and had no fan. We were so thirsty that some of us were falling unconscious. Bhai Sunaam Singh became a Shahid here. We were almost unconscious and crying out. The noise made the army open our doors and when we ran out to drink water, the army opened fire and many Singhs died here. We continued to lie inside.

On the night of June 8th, a Sardar soldier took charge. He was from Jhabaal. The Biharis were changed. He said to us that he was also pained by all that had happened and his own father who did seva with Baba Khark Singh had also been killed. He said he had just returned after doing the cremation. He said that we should last one more night like this and then we would be put in open barracks.

On June 9th we were put in open barracks and were given Chholay Puris to eat. We began to throw up right away. Doctors cam and said that we had been dehydrated and we should only be given rice and water. He said that if you bodies accepted the water, we might live otherwise there was no hope. We had not had anything to eat for the past four or five days. Our bodies began to accept the water and then we were given rice for the next two or three days. We thought we would survive now.

Jail and Torture

Then began the job of identifying us. We were marched in front of a room where the fighters were separated from the regular Sangat. A companion of Sant jee was doing the identifying. We were a total of 60 Singhs left and we were put in two rooms. Different agencies interrogated us for two months but we gave them no information. We were then taken to Nabha jail. Here the interrogation continued. When this stopped, we were remanded to custody under the National Security Act for a period set for two years. Our families found out we were ok. After the remand, we were taken to Ladha Kothi Sangrur were they interrogated us again. They kept asking where Sant jee got the weapons, who were the fighters and who were involved in various actions that took place. We kept repeating that we didn’t know anything. We were about to be sent away to “Kala Pani� when some Guru Kae Laal killed Indra. All the Singhs faces were shining with happiness since history had shown that whoever attacked Sree Darbaar Sahib could not escape the Khalsa.

What had been happening to us for the past five months now stopped. New lists were made and 379 individuals were charged with rebellion and sent to Jodhpur Jail. We were sent there via air from Patiala. There were two women as well, Bhai Rachhpal Singh’s wife and another from Amritsar [Bibi Amarjit Kaur]. There was a court inside Jodhpur Jail. We all fell ill because of the food given to us here but soon we became used to it.

After five years in jail, in 1989, the charge of rebellion was taken back under pressure from the United Nations. Those of us who didn’t have any other cases booked, were then released. I had cases in Punjab so I was sent to Jalandhar Jail and then Amritsar. I later came out on bail. The government offered us assistance but I rejected it and joined the movement again in 1990. Since 1997 I am in jail again and await the day when with the grace of the Guru some true leader comes again to take the Panth into Chardi Kala.

On Sant Jarnail Singh’s Shahidi



We saw Sant jee for the last time on June 5th, at five pm. He was in total Chardi Kala and encouraging the other Singhs. On June 6th at around 9 or 10 am, a very big battle took place in front of Akal Takhat and the echo of jaikaaras could be heard for a long time. When we were in the Amritsar Army Camp, some trustworthy Singhs who were close to Sant Jarnail Singh told us that Sant jee became a shahid in this battle. Sant jee knew that his shahidi was certain and talked about this openly. On June 3 at 9 or 10 am, he had gathered all the main Singhs and talked about his coming Shahidi and gave the opportunity to everyone who wanted to leave. Some Singhs managed to escape on June 6th. We were in Jail at that time and we all accepted that Sant jee, Gen. Shahbegh Singh, Baba Thara Singh and Bhai Amreek Singh were Shaheed. At Nabha Jail we were about to have an Akhand Paath Sahib for Sant Jee and the rest of the Singhs but Baba Thakur Singh sent us a message and Baba Surinder Singh himself came to say that Sant jee was in “Chardi Kala�.

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 05:32:35 PM »
Envy, thats 1 sick tattoo!

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 05:39:35 PM »
they had it at the gurdwara today, handin out pamphlets on what happnd that tragic day.
Some kid older than me was like what is tha? wanted to smack him silly
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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2009, 05:52:22 PM »
It is a tragedy of epic proportions and justice still has not been served. I pray an Udham Singh will rise and carry out some vigilante justice someday.


I guess you can say there was an "Udham Singh" in the form of Beant Singh and the few other people who assasinated Indira Gandhi and General Vaidya.

RIP to all the people who lost their lives in the militant violence, State sponsored violence, and terrorism of the 1980s.

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2009, 07:14:56 PM »
Envy, thats 1 sick tattoo!

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2009, 08:09:35 PM »
Envy, thats 1 sick tattoo!

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2009, 10:30:34 PM »
Videos like the one above are very saddening. Its crazy how the people were treated. May their souls rest in peace.

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 02:50:26 AM »
It is a tragedy of epic proportions and justice still has not been served. I pray an Udham Singh will rise and carry out some vigilante justice someday.


I guess you can say there was an "Udham Singh" in the form of Beant Singh and the few other people who assasinated Indira Gandhi and General Vaidya.

RIP to all the people who lost their lives in the militant violence, State sponsored violence, and terrorism of the 1980s.

I still want someone to finish of Jagdish Tytler. KPS Gill would be someone to kill too.

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Re: Operation Bluestar-25 years later
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2009, 10:52:33 PM »
pretty siiick tatoo
Jaideep "JD" Hira