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World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« on: November 09, 2011, 11:34:53 PM »

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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 12:15:46 AM »
Sad but true, the punjabi language is probably subject to the same result in the coming generations.

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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 03:08:59 PM »
Sad but true, the punjabi language is probably subject to the same result in the coming generations.


?? I do not see the two skills as analogous. One is mastery of a way of life, movements, and teachings, while the other is a common language spoken by millions in Punjab and across the world. Between the Pakistani and Indian censuses (censi?), there are over 100 MILLION *native* Punjabi speakers in those countries alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language I recognize that later generations in the US, UK etc sometimes speak less punjabi, but way to exaggerate.
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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 04:07:24 PM »
Sad but true, the punjabi language is probably subject to the same result in the coming generations.


?? I do not see the two skills as analogous. One is mastery of a way of life, movements, and teachings, while the other is a common language spoken by millions in Punjab and across the world. Between the Pakistani and Indian censuses (censi?), there are over 100 MILLION *native* Punjabi speakers in those countries alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language I recognize that later generations in the US, UK etc sometimes speak less punjabi, but way to exaggerate.


Also he's not the last one. I'm not sure whats at stake with him wating to make such a claim, but if he went to Punjab he'd have a hard time making that claim if we went to the Nihangs. He might be the last one of his own weird brand of sanatan hindu sikh shastar vidiya, but the actual swordfighting isn't going anywhere soon. Neither is Punjabi.

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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 01:18:00 AM »
Sad but true, the punjabi language is probably subject to the same result in the coming generations.


?? I do not see the two skills as analogous. One is mastery of a way of life, movements, and teachings, while the other is a common language spoken by millions in Punjab and across the world. Between the Pakistani and Indian censuses (censi?), there are over 100 MILLION *native* Punjabi speakers in those countries alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language I recognize that later generations in the US, UK etc sometimes speak less punjabi, but way to exaggerate.



I meant the skill to actually read and write. But your right i shouldnt speak on such a large scale.
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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 04:59:56 AM »
Sad but true, the punjabi language is probably subject to the same result in the coming generations.


?? I do not see the two skills as analogous. One is mastery of a way of life, movements, and teachings, while the other is a common language spoken by millions in Punjab and across the world. Between the Pakistani and Indian censuses (censi?), there are over 100 MILLION *native* Punjabi speakers in those countries alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language I recognize that later generations in the US, UK etc sometimes speak less punjabi, but way to exaggerate.


Also he's not the last one. I'm not sure whats at stake with him wating to make such a claim, but if he went to Punjab he'd have a hard time making that claim if we went to the Nihangs. He might be the last one of his own weird brand of sanatan hindu sikh shastar vidiya, but the actual swordfighting isn't going anywhere soon. Neither is Punjabi.

He actually is the last remaining master of Shastra (or Shastar) Vidya. This is the martial art practiced by the Pandavas and other kshatriyas in the Mahabarata. The last true master was Mohinder Singh, and the man Mohinder Singh chose as his successor was Nidar Singh. If you go to the Shastar Vidya homepage, run by the Shastar Vidya akhara, he's listed as the current (and only) Gurudev of the martial art. http://www.shastarvidiya.org/akhara.jsp

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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 06:57:51 PM »
Sad but true, the punjabi language is probably subject to the same result in the coming generations.


?? I do not see the two skills as analogous. One is mastery of a way of life, movements, and teachings, while the other is a common language spoken by millions in Punjab and across the world. Between the Pakistani and Indian censuses (censi?), there are over 100 MILLION *native* Punjabi speakers in those countries alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language I recognize that later generations in the US, UK etc sometimes speak less punjabi, but way to exaggerate.


Also he's not the last one. I'm not sure whats at stake with him wating to make such a claim, but if he went to Punjab he'd have a hard time making that claim if we went to the Nihangs. He might be the last one of his own weird brand of sanatan hindu sikh shastar vidiya, but the actual swordfighting isn't going anywhere soon. Neither is Punjabi.

He actually is the last remaining master of Shastra (or Shastar) Vidya. This is the martial art practiced by the Pandavas and other kshatriyas in the Mahabarata. The last true master was Mohinder Singh, and the man Mohinder Singh chose as his successor was Nidar Singh. If you go to the Shastar Vidya homepage, run by the Shastar Vidya akhara, he's listed as the current (and only) Gurudev of the martial art. http://www.shastarvidiya.org/akhara.jsp


Its a revisionist history with a particular agenda.  If you look closely, this entire enterprise is made and perpetuated with this guy at the forefront. If you look at the lineage you cited, it starts with God, who passed the knowledge down to Guru Nanak. Guru Nanak didn't take up arms.

http://thelangarhall.com/art/the-return-of-shastar-vidiya/

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Re: World's last Sikh "Shastar Vidiya" master
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 04:21:55 AM »
I am ready, I will travel long and far to seek this last master and learn his ways. It is my destiny  8)
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