Thank you for taking the time to post this up Sid! Amazingly detailed and well put together.
Would love to read more reviews - either from those that attended the show or dancers.
By the way, did Ram practice dhol with your team a lot to where he just knew the beats for the songs you used? That's definitely clutch and requires a lot of skill to play live when you're used to just playing over a song's beat (like most music-team dholis generally do). As Swi said on fb, chant of the night MVP.. is Ram V
Thank you for detailed review of the competition Sonny! This always helps teams, organizing committees, and gives bhangra fans a perspective of what it was like.
Really wanted to make it down to R2B2 this year to support the teams & competition, but unfortunately I had other priorities (growing up sucks!).
Along with reviewing the events, it would be great to add in critiques that could help other teams out too (like general statements of what you liked/could use improvement from other teams that you saw compete).
There are handful of bhangra teams that attended this year, so it would be great to hear from more dancers! Please comment guys.
Congrats to the placing teams & ty R2B2 committee for putting in the hard work to organize this Texas competition.
Also, if practically anybody searched the Media Center, there has been a lot of content shared by other individuals over time.. it just might be a bit more buried (in other words, you'll have to search for specific things).
Honestly, I think there are a lot of files out there already out there if a new mixer is really searching for it on on BTF/Google/etc. As far as tips/hints, if you want to compile a compilation of what's currently out there, we could consider pinning that as well - but I think that's part of the entire learning process.. not everything is going to be spelled out for you nor is someone going to take your hand and walk you through everything Your ability to search for content & use tutorials from various places is a big part of being an "online DJ."
I don't mind offering some quick feedback on BTF (when I have the time), but a lot of the mixes just sound so much of the "same." Maybe that's part of the reason why people may hesitate to share their loops/samples/etc as much as mentioned by the OP (shwinerz).
There are often a lot of the same big mistakes being repeated over & over again.. like if one goes through other mixing topics on BTF where people have commented, you can listen to someone's mix and read over the comments people have provided. That alone should help you improve on the major ideas.
As much as I agree with everyone that practice makes perfect (making a ton of mixes is always good), I also believe that implementing a lot of what you learn (i.e. via websites, youtube tutorials,etc) and continuously pushing yourself to have a distance/unique sound is very important. Who cares if not everyone loves every part of your mix - the whole point is to push your mixing ability and display your creativity.
I was hoping the BTF Mixing Ladder that we had allowed some DJ's to get more exposure, show their creativity, and get some feedback along the way. It definitely required a bit more "hustle" since DJ's/mixers only had about a week to come up with something.. but maybe if we can get the monthly mixing contest going (go Swi go! ), which might be better suited for BTF because there won't be as much "administrative" work like we faced with the previous mixing ladder.
Anyway, there are lot of great comments stated by the individuals above, so I don't want to sound like a broken record. Hope this helps.
This is great Elite Entertainment team! I especially liked the Elite 8 mini-interview with Waldo as you guys asked a lot of great questions -- please do MORE of this type of stuff because it greatly appeals to all those that keep up with the bhangra circuit in North America.
Also, really loved that you guys played the mixes of the winning teams that won Elite 8 in the past, but just a small suggestion: it would be great if you gave the mixers some credit. After all, they the talented individuals behind the scene that makes our ears orgasm
Looking forward to you guys sharing more episodes on BTF,
Many Australian teams are developing stronger sets quite quickly - I always love to see new teams as they make their mark. Similar to the U.K. teams, I don't think teams in Australia will face as big of a learning curve as teams here in North America.
As Prabhzy stated, this is excellent for the global bhangra scene. I thought Bhangra Down Under did an excellent job for only it's second year as a competition.
Very excited for this new competition - it's very much needed in Australia. Good luck to the committee - hope it's a big success!
This discussion of the philosophy of judging is great, but it doesn't mean much to competitions who don't know who those judges are.
I believe this sentence from mrchicity is spot on. I personally feel there is a large disconnect from many competitions organizers/committees to find proper judges.
While we, as a community/forum, can put together a list of judges who we feel qualify according to certain criteria... it's really up to the committees to choose and select who they best think would follow the rubric and follow the "theme" of the competition (i.e. A folk competition that has live teams wouldn't select some judge that has only experience with modern teams... and vice versa).
Maybe putting together a general list of people's name with their respective experience, affiliations, etc and whether they are still "active" with competing or not is a good idea. Also, maybe even adding in a comment if they follow the bhangra scene or not might be good idea.. I think that might be important so a judge can discern if some aspect of a routine is a copy of something done or is really showing a team's "creativity."
Budget issues are also an important topic as Mariam suggested.
I think we have plenty of people in the bhangra world who would make excellent judges - it's that disconnect between the competitions and the bhangra circuit that is tough to bridge.
I'm all for helping to put together some criteria or a general list of individuals! Maybe in BTF 3.0, we could even have a form that's incorporated into the forum where people could fill out info if they are interested in judging.. it could be tied's to each person's profile and you could edit it (i.e. if you did something else bhangra related, one could add to it.. or if your location changes, one could update the city & state where you currently reside).. the committees could get on BTF and reference that database to figure out the type of judges that would fit their style of competition best.
How long will it take for me to learn and master the moves of Bhangra?
Learning - a few hours to a few days depending on how quickly you pick up on things.
Mastering - decades? There are many of us that have danced for years and are still not considered "masters" of the art form. There are people here that run or teach in academies who are not masters. There are even those that got trained by "coaches" in Punjab and who danced with teams there who are not considered masters.
I don't think you could master the dance because it varies so much and there are so many elements to it. You might be a good folk bhangra dancer, but then you might suck completely when put into a more modern team... or vice versa.
Btw, the suggestions given by the two UK mundas above me are quite good. I'll add that if you can find someone locally who has had a bit of stage time/experience being on a team, that might help you learn quicker by seeing things in person and the individual helping to correct you.
Lastly, if you want some solid advice on your dancing and you're open to criticism/feedback, you could always record a short video and post it up here on BTF (if you're not too shy). There are many who could offer you ways to improve.
All the best and don't hesitate to ask anymore questions you may have,