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Sickkk performance boys! Loved the contrast of the vardiyan and the court.

Favorites parts were the slow mo baitka moves and all the combo moves at the end (pataka, phumaniya footwork, chaffa, and the jumps) all while in a double man tower! Looked like great fun.

~ Basim :)

P.S. - Gopi, I merged your topic with Ricky's since he had posted a thread up first.

Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: vaisakhi houston bhangra competiton
« on: April 13, 2014, 08:32:43 PM »

Thanks for the update Sajan.

Surprised that Alamo City Bhangra (ACB) isn't part of this lineup. I was hoping this to be a battle of all the Texas teams at least, since there hasn't been one comp where they have all been present.

Btw, is that Rupinder Sandu (the gidha dancer) judging whose originally from the Dallas area? If so, oh boyy... at least they got Ricky out to judge - I'm hoping that is him from BK/Virse. I was hoping for more a little information given on the judges, especially with their experience on bhangra and the circuit. Did they give the teams anything else besides names?

Good luck to all the teams competing.

~ Basim :)

Beautifully made Jasraj! Thanks for sharing all the pictures.

Good luck with this venture.

~ Basim :)

Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: Pao Bhangra: Feedback Panel!
« on: April 13, 2014, 04:43:54 PM »
Cool idea and great panel selected. This should be extremely helpful for all teams performing. Question: How & when will the feedback be provided to teams? Will these individuals basically be watching a live stream of the event, write down their comments, and provide feedback to the teams after each performance?

Just wondering about the logistics behind this "online" feedback concept.

Good luck with the event Pao organizers aka Cornell peeps,

~ Basim :)

Gah.. wish I was in NY! Have fun dancing & getting your groove on while indirectly benefiting a worthy cause? Count me in, lol. Good luck with the event.

It's nice to see bhangra teams/club coming together to put on events like this - good work SMD, AEG, NYBC, and whoever else is performing.

~ Basim :)

Let's not get into a quarrel by attacking each other's usernames, characters, and/or actions (non-relevant things to this topic).

I, for one, love to hear & read critiques from all sorts of people. Whether the person be a former dancer, current dancer, chimta player (<3 u guys), or just a fan of the NA bhangra circuit. It all doesn't matter much to me as long as the person can provide a thoughtful critique to the team OR state what things "turned them off" from a set.

With that said, I'm glad "The Honest Truth" actually goes out on a limb and provides critiques (sometimes in favor of certain elements within a set/performance and sometimes not so much). If you read his/her previous posts, you'll easily see they are not just talking out of their ass.

I don't care if a team has won 1st at every major competition this season - every team out there can push themselves to the next level and improve in various ways. Teams should know and expect all sorts of criticism on sets from the judges, people who saw the performance live, and people on BTF.

I agree with Daman in that I basically saw an exact repeat of the Bhangra Idols 2013 performance from about 5-6 months back. As a fan, I was expecting a little bit of a change (nothing drastic) to make this set standout a bit more. I guess that the team might have figured that since they won 1st at Idols with this exact set, why not repeat what has worked? Since the judges were completely different - to them, it was all "new." I personally feel the lineup at MCB was a lot more diverse & stacked, so that's why this set might have not placed 1st. I love certain "gimmicks" that go along with the dancing like the whole Allah Jaane segment, so I was fine with seeing that twice, but overall I wanted more variety! I like most of the songs used and I have to give respect to GSingh for the great mix.

Bring something new for us soon Shan E :) Best of luck!

~ Basim :)

Who competed last year?  What were the results?  Reviews?  I'm searching but not finding anything.  Just wanted to learn a little bit more. Thanks!

Clearly, I'm being ignored...  :P

By the way, here is some information/placings about their previous competition that took place on Sept 21, 2013: Good luck to the Elite Bhangra committee & volunteers. I hope your competition is even more successful this year.  Hope this helps, ~ Basim :)

The facebook link to the pictures of the 2013 competition in the link that I provided above still work.. if that helps at all.

From what I remember, there wasn't any reviews of the competition itself posted on BTF. If some of the teams or participants that attended last year could comment here, that would be fantastic.

Other than that, your best bet might be to reach out to the individual teams to get some feedback Mariam.

~ Basim :)

Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: VIBC 2014 Bhangra Teams Lineup!
« on: April 02, 2014, 12:21:08 AM »
When's the date of this comp?

VIBC has been a full on festival now for three years, so it'll be non-competitive! The teams will be performing on June 6th and 7th I believe.

Awesome lineup though! Wish I could be there. :(

Awww, you're not involved on the back end of the show's operations anymore Romy? :( That's unfortunate. Well at least VIBC has HK to continue the legacy! yay.

Congrats on the very diverse guys - excited to see some of the older/retired teams makes a return. The VIBC performances are always such a pleasure to watch due to the more relaxed nature of the dancers. I hope this year's week long festivities are a big hit in the Vancouver community.

All the best,

~ Basim :)

Was this just posted?

Nope Mariam. If you check the user's post history, you'll see that the committee initially posted some details about their 2014 competition on back in December of last year:
The registration formally became available on January 19, 2014:!)/
They also posted a new topic on BTF about once a month to remind teams of the deadline/registration packet (I wish they would have just bumped their original topic, but errrr.. you know how that goes).
By the way, here is some information/placings about their previous competition that took place on Sept 21, 2013:
Good luck to the Elite Bhangra committee & volunteers. I hope your competition is even more successful this year.
Hope this helps,
~ Basim :)

sick name, ironic no team has thought about it so far

Maybe because it sounds like the name of a dhaaba.

It's actually the name of a popular brand of naan sold in South Asian food stores:

Delicious stuff! Maybe you guys could score a sponsorship deal of some sort.
~ Basim :)

Bhangra Mixes and Music / Re: Agar Tum Mil Jao - Zeher [Sample]
« on: March 30, 2014, 03:26:56 PM »
Nice stuff bro. I enjoyed the background beat and how you beat mapped it with the original song. I really liked the tempo effect at 0:07-0:08.

Not a huge fan of just showing throwing in high hats to sound "different" - i.e. at 0:40 onwards, I was looking to hear you change things up a bit or be unique in different in a way (besides just using that snare drum beat + high hat combo). That would have been a good point to change the mix up because the lyrics going into a separate set of verses.

Of course it certainly helps that I'm a fan of the original song ;) Nice job overall - just try not to get too static with your mixes. From 0:15 onwards, I was looking to be "entertained" with your mix in a whole different way and you just kept things too simple for me. Stretch your mind & show us more creativity!

Hope this helps,

~ Basim :)

P.S. - In the future, when you are posting - put the soundcloud tag around your mix and it will auto embedd on BTF. You can PM if you have trouble with this, but here is an example:
Code: [Select]
[soundcloud]insert the link to your mix here[/soundcloud]

Off-Topic / Re: GTV new video cuts
« on: March 26, 2014, 06:43:35 PM »
Isn't the music for GTV videos coming directly from the the venue's soundboard? I thought that's how you had it setup Harjot. I remember that in the past, GTV had to gather team mixes directly so that during editing, audio could be overlayed on top of the GTV video that was captured. From my understanding, thesedays the primary audio is now feed into the video camera via XLR connection. The only other audio added in (during editing) might be from the stage mic recorders. If this is not the case, please feel free to correct me Harjot.
My opinion may be biased on the matter, but I feel that releasing the mix should be at the sole discrection of the team & their mixer (whoever they choose to get the mix done through). They should have full control on if or when they want to release their mix, since they are already giving up "rights" on releasing their videos on GTV (a team can only delay their video from getting released for so long).
I personally don't think GTV should "force" teams to submit a mix at all. I guess that I don't see the point of having it on the GTV registration form and having to manage when to release a team's mix as well (which just adds another date to worry about).
It's not very hard for a team member to get on BTF and upload their mix, therefore sharing it with everyone here. It definitely wouldn't hurt BTF's reputation if Harjot could include "Looking for the team's mix? Join and search for it!" in the youtube description  ;) Self pump. haha.
All the best,
~ Basim  :)

Off-Topic / Re: GTV new video cuts
« on: March 26, 2014, 04:18:06 PM »
Harjot - just a small question. Do the teams provide you with all the songs they used in their routine? In other words, do you request this information in the form that you send to the teams or is this list of songs something that you have to come up with on your own?

I'm assuming the team provides you with this information, but I was just curious about how goes on the back end of things.


~ Basim :)

Being a fan of analysis and numbers (especially in an easy to read/concise manner), I was thoroughly impressed by this. Excellent work Faizan, Kinnell, Swi, Arjun and whoever else might have been involved.

Small typo on page 19:
"We can then normalize the all the normalized scores of the judges of a said team to see how opinions and preferences varied between judges and what categories each judge liked for what team more than other judges."

I think it was supposed to say: We can then normalize all of the...

I would also include definitions of the rubric categories, or simply include the actual rubric. For instance the category 'choreography' means something specific to me, however my notion of what it entails does not match up with the scores between the teams. This is most likely because the rubric definition explicitly mentions something that I don't naturally account under that category. Others may have similar questions with other categories as well.

This is an excellent point brought up by Swi and I was going to mention the same thing. I'm not sure if judged where told what exactly goes into each of the categories (in essence, further defining each category), but these general words could mean different things to different people.

Lastly, on a personal level, I have the belief that judges deliberating to shift overall placings by 1 or 2 spots max should be a part of the entire process. It's so hard to gauge what one judge saw more in team over another based on just numbers. Discussion is needed to really combine thoughts and possibly share what might have been missed (or incorrectly interpreted) by one judge over another.

The entire judging process along with setting criteria for a rurbic is always a difficult hurdle for competitions and it's always good to share what a successful competition like WBBC has done. Much appreciated friends.

~ Basim :)

Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: Bruin Bhangra XVI Official Line-Up!!!
« on: March 25, 2014, 01:19:34 AM »
Amazing lineup. A great mix of both West Coast and East Coast teams.

Good luck to all those competing and to the Bruin Bhangra committee.

~ Basim :)

Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: World's Best Bhangra Crew Winners
« on: March 22, 2014, 09:51:05 PM »
Yay for Cornell, congrats! I can't wait to read some reviews and see some videos. I'm sure all of the recent alumni are extremely proud that the legacy is continuing forward for this collegiate team.

I'm sure with such great head to head battles, a lot of teams "brought it".. not only fought to win in their individual matchups, but also try to take that coveted "overall winner" spot.

~ Basim :)

Bhangra Mixes and Music / Re: ***SPRING BREAK 2014 MIX! [KaranDeol]***
« on: March 21, 2014, 03:11:58 PM »
Awesome work - loved the songs selection and all the variations (i.e. tempo adjustments) that you used throughout the mix.

Thanks for sharing Karan,

~ Basim :)

Bhangra Mixes and Music / Re: Deadmau5 ft. Daler Mehandi
« on: March 18, 2014, 11:33:12 PM »
Just to add on a funny video related to this:

Coffee Run!!! ft. Daler Mehndi!

Fixed all the funky formating in your original post.
Good luck with the competition this year Jasmeeta!
~ Basim :)

So when I last visited Punjab many years back (the West side of Punjab, since my family is mainly settled in the Pakistan side).. I noticed the "bhangra" dancers for entertainment purposes (weddings, during concerts/mehfils, etc) are similar to what Gibb posted in the youtube video above.

The dance was a bit less informal in terms of attire and was made for like "anyone" to join in the fun. The luddi presentations were quite different than what we see on stage these days. Also, unlike the "chakwal luddi" video above, there were a TON of more dancers.. I would say maybe like 20+ and they are not "professional dancers" but basically village folks (mainly young to middle aged men.. only saw a few older dancers). Their moves were synchronized to the live band music VERY well. Also, from what I noticed, there was one or two people who would take the "lead" on creating variation and then everyone else would follow suit. They also varied the dancing based on the rhythm/beats.. so you might see luddi presented for a few minutes, then they might change things up to dhammal, then maybe do a variation of mirza, etc.

Edit: By attire not being formal, I meant for the dancers.. they basically work kameez & shalwar (although not all of the same color). Also, the only formality that came was in terms of the live band.. they had paggs on with side turlas and more of the "bhangra outfit" that we are used to seeing on stage today.

Here is an interesting article and picture presentation of luddi displayed in Pakistan:

I was surprised to read that the performance was for a "dance competition." I never realized the dance was that organized on the Pakistan side.

~ Basim :)

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