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Did ABC START this trend?  Debatable.

AEG has been consistently using hip hop in its mixes since 2007-2008.  Anyone else have any idea what other teams were using hip hop early on?  Not trying to argue, just want to set a marker and give recognition to the team(s) that started it.  As I can remember the teams that really made hip hop a staple of their mixes were ABC and AEG starting in like 2007-2008.  Who else was there?


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Part of bhangra's foundation is based on imagined expertise in the first place. The uncles who fashioned themselves as ustaads/experts in the states didn't really have a clue what they were doing, since a generation or two before them, bhangra didn't exist.

YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. 

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Salute,

Great job SMD. This is some realness right here. Respect.

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also, song selection was the best of the night by far...

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There isn't anything wrong with this if thats your "style" but understand that competing in the music category in todays day and age takes a lot more creatvity and outside of the box thinking.


Not at MCB.  At MCB, I am sure the judges thought this was too modern.  Judges were super folk (to a fault IMO).  Shan-e is a creative team, this was them trying to being a more muted version of themselves, to cater to the folk judges.  Turns out, the judges wanted it to be ever more muted.  This music category might as well have been judged with the rubric of a live category. 


Super Folk teams, go to MCB.  Borderline folk/modern teams, don't bother if winning matters to you.  Because, you will lose.

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one of the best of the season.  Raju johal, i see you :)


Great job to a legendary team.  Thought moday were inconsistent on jugni though...

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we took a team vote and decided to go with naan and not rice

You mad the right choice.  #teamnaan

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Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: WBBC 2014 Thanks you and Feedback
« on: March 29, 2014, 10:44:11 AM »
Thank you anik for the thorough post-competition analysis.  Best review of all time. 


And thank you to everyone else for the feedback.  We will compile a list of comments and review them periodically until the day of #wbbc2015, and hope to have all this fixed.

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This thread is bullshit

ohhhh yesssssss

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Folk snobs bore me, yawwwwwwwn.

If you want folk bhangra, go to live.  Everything else is bullshit. 

It's 2014 not 2008, move forward or risk being trapped in your nostalgia.  Enjoy those fuzzy youtube videos.

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There are two flows:

1. Set flow
2. Dancing flow

Set flow is if your set is balanced and has appropriate build ups and build downs.
Dance flow is whether or not your dancing fits together and whether it is made choppy due to stops and starts (caused by gimmicks or otherwise).

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Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: WBBC 2014 Thanks you and Feedback
« on: March 27, 2014, 12:53:36 PM »
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Bhangra/Dhol from Naya Daur (1957), Clip 1


Bhangra scene from Naya Daur (1957), Clip 2


That is what the "Folk Dance" of your culture looked like 50 years ago.  So which one are you talking about?  The one that started like 30- years ago that we see on stages?  The one that had very little organized steps and went in circles like in the video?  Or dances like jhummar, luddi and sammi which have been around for 100s of years in north India.  Because stagi bhangra resembles very little what folk punjabi dances looked like 100 years ago. 

Cheating their way around the dance of your folk culture?  Please explain which dance and which folk culture you are talking about.  Because as far as I am concerned, taking communal folk dances which were danced on specific occaisions in CIRCLES for 100s of years and sticking them on a stage and formally making steps is cheating around the dance of MY FOLK CULTURE.  :)

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ohr tenu Angrezi'ch kehnde, TROLL.

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Basim, see the rubrics in my original post for criteria.

Wbbc had deliberation between the top two teams if separated by 15 or less points.

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See the slide that ranks the teams by rubric category. You can infer a lot from it in terms of why teams lost points or gained them.

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I have attached the upper and lower level rubrics to the original post above.


Also see below for the technical rubric, thanks.

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Hello,

It was a pleasure serving as judging coordinator and creative director of WBBC this past weekend.  Thank you to all the teams for taking your time and effort to help WBBC succeed.  With the teams, we are nothing. 

With the wisdom of my years on the circuit and on the WBBC board, I have created something I call the Comprehensive Judging System (CJS).  This in my mind should be the new standard in judging for the circuit.  The CJS consists of a base of the following elements:

1. Judges who are familiar with the circuit and who understand the genre of the competition they will judge at;
2. Multi-level or multi-view judging (i.e., Upper and Lower Level) with separate rubrics;
3. Judge's video chat sessions at least 6 weeks before the competition;
4. Team's and Judge's feedback on the rubric(s) (no rubric should be the sole work of a single author or committee);
5. Prompt analytics and feedback for teams (3 days after show maximum);
6. CJS Analysis

I implemented all six of these elements at WBBC this year. 

I have attached the CJS analysis for WBBC 2014 BELOW. (Authors: Faizan Ghaznavi and Kinnell Shah, in consultation with Yasaswi Raparla).  Kinnell and Swi are both Bhangra Geniuses, thank you for your input and assistance.  see also: the wbbc 2014 upper and lower level rubrics below.

I hope this system helps move the circuit forward and serves as a turning point for the circuit's judging (which has

lagged far behind the quality of dancing). 

Thank you,


Faizan Ghaznavi

Founding Member of Anakh-E-Gabroo
Founder of BX Bhangra
Founding member of NYC Jugni
Judging Coordinator and
Creative Director for World's Best Bhangra Crew

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Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: Favorite performance shers
« on: March 17, 2014, 12:40:25 PM »
Anything by Dilbagh Nagi, see:

AEG Elite 8 2010, AEG Bruin 2011, AEG BDM 2010

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Main Bhangra Discussion / Re: Bhangra At The Bell RESULTS!
« on: March 13, 2014, 09:35:34 PM »
My Placings after thorough viewing:


1. FAUJ
2. NYPD
3. FCB/Show me other videos


FAUJ, you guys had a major mishap at the end, but I think you still squeaked out nypd by like less than 5 points for me.  Formations were good, but you guys had trouble cleanly executed some of them.  Your opening was nothing special.


NYPD, you guys had the best dancers/dancing, but I expected better ideas from your team.  The girl in the end/pyramid is what did you in.  You needed a better ending.


FCB, you guys had tons of execution issues.  Dancers were not lifting legs, and looked tired.  The props were not well executed.  The 6 towers did not hit because one guy could not get up.  Dancing was below nypd and fauj.  The vaar was not good either.


Hate me fine, but that's my opinion.

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