siddyp
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What up. Lots of good, fun, trolly discussion going on. Wanted to compile some thoughts and see what ya'll think:
Set creation:
- UK sets are wild. They're nasty. Formations are ridiculous. Mechanisms are so sick. I haven't watched every single UK video, but at least the placing teams in recent years, all have a very similar style/vibe: Fast, formations/mechanisms. Part of it definitely has to do with the audio. Mixes are straight hype af. Idc what anyone says about the pitch and use of same/similar synths, the mixes are an adrenaline rush. @dholihardo is one of my favs. But UK mixes, do sound very much the same.
- NA sets are extremely diverse: There are so many different styles of bhangra in NA. SPD set creation is different than NJJ. and keep comparing to FAUJ, Furteelay, JJ, AEG, BK, Van City, KPGD etc. Even the "folk" teams, you can tell they're different. Soormay compared to VSB compared to NSG. Every team I listed, looks different from the other. While some you may say look similar, no where near as similar as the UK teams. And yes I said and stand by the statement that UK sets are awesome. But every team I listed, (and more NA teams I haven't listed) have made awesome sets as well. Mixing is also way more diverse in NA. Listen to a Pablamix then Sargam. Klasikhz vs HsD. Aka$h vs GSingh. Jason Kataria vs Baljot. Different feels to each mixer.
- I give the UK the win when it comes to absolute hype in their sets. But NA teams have the ability to be dynamic. KPGD did whatever they did at Boston, then in under 3 months did what they did at Mela/MCB. 2 completely different style of sets. And I can see the likes of BK, NJ, Furteelay etc doing the same thing. We haven't seen that from the UK teams yet other than going from that hype af style, to doing live. Meaning, within music bhangra, we haven't seen the variation. If an NA team had to go to the UK with 16, they could be agile and create something that could bang and be as hype with the UK teams.
Competitions/Judges/Rubrics:
- Way more comps in NA than in UK. Rubrics across the US vary from comp to comp and range in style from Bruin on one end to MCB on the other and everything in between. With only 1 comp in the UK, maybe thats why there is not as much diversity in the UK.
- Maybe its the variety in judges with so many comps ranging across the continent. Each region having different judges that come from different styles. I know a big thing here is to create your own identity. Based on what I've watched, I don't really know if that kind of thing has been pushed in the UK.
- Another thing to keep in mind is that UK sets feel same thing for 8 minutes - hype af/formations/mechanisms. Judges/rubrics here push ups/downs/change in tempo and having variety in the routine. I don't know whats pushed in the UK but that is why, to me, there is more diversity in sets here.
In this specific aspect, with the circuits number of comps, number of different judges/rubrics, it feels like I'm comparing apples to oranges. The circuits are just plain and simply different.
Individual dancing:
Man. This is where UK teams, if you want me to officially call you guys the best, this is where ya'll need to step up. I rarely see some individual dancing moments, or full on domination of a set like we see here in NA. When you watch amazing performances from NA teams, you notice certain dancers and are like yo. who is that. Not once have I said that about a UK team other than the girls on JVD at WBBC.
UK teams: show me some dominance in a jodi dancing like Prabh and Jagmeet from SPD. Cherag and Amrinder from Fauj. The Khera twins from NJ. Benny and Surmeet from old school VCU. I could list many more filthy filthy jodis over the years but for the sake of time and length i wont. And lets apply that across a full team. Not going with the same teams, but damn. That BK team from 2013? Show me a squad of 12 from the UK that can match that 12.
You gotta take my word here, I'm not trying to rag on the UK. But your sets don't allow for it. Seems like dancers focus on only hitting spots, and going 150% all out the whole time. Which, while trying to move alot, is difficult. You can't lift your legs fully while covering so much ground in 4 beats. You can't properly rip a jandhu singha. There is no room for adding grace. The level of poise and strength in form in a Sumit Hira and the way he trains BK, is not seen in any of your teams imo.
I'm not saying to cut all the crazy movement/mechanisms. But shift some focus on pure, raw, dancing of bhangra. And allow some moments for it in your sets. Ya'll have the talent to be on par and better than the dancers here. But I don't think it has been shown yet. I genuinely believe that you guys could vary your sets more, train in pure raw dancing, and show a 16 that can hang and be as deep as some of the squads here, while maintaining your hype style.
Ya'll do that^ and I can say ya'll the best. But its hard for me to believe you guys can hang with some of the placing teams from 6ix or MCB on their rubrics. If ya'll don't change a thing, please come to bruin .
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I could be wrong in things I've said. Wherever it is, show me please. I don't watch every video. I ain't tryna edit it. But just wanted to highlight where I think each circuit is better than the other and why things might be different. I left some things out, esp the prep for 1 comp vs multiple in a season cause thats been said multiple times. But please bring up some other thoughts!
Much love.
Set creation:
- UK sets are wild. They're nasty. Formations are ridiculous. Mechanisms are so sick. I haven't watched every single UK video, but at least the placing teams in recent years, all have a very similar style/vibe: Fast, formations/mechanisms. Part of it definitely has to do with the audio. Mixes are straight hype af. Idc what anyone says about the pitch and use of same/similar synths, the mixes are an adrenaline rush. @dholihardo is one of my favs. But UK mixes, do sound very much the same.
- NA sets are extremely diverse: There are so many different styles of bhangra in NA. SPD set creation is different than NJJ. and keep comparing to FAUJ, Furteelay, JJ, AEG, BK, Van City, KPGD etc. Even the "folk" teams, you can tell they're different. Soormay compared to VSB compared to NSG. Every team I listed, looks different from the other. While some you may say look similar, no where near as similar as the UK teams. And yes I said and stand by the statement that UK sets are awesome. But every team I listed, (and more NA teams I haven't listed) have made awesome sets as well. Mixing is also way more diverse in NA. Listen to a Pablamix then Sargam. Klasikhz vs HsD. Aka$h vs GSingh. Jason Kataria vs Baljot. Different feels to each mixer.
- I give the UK the win when it comes to absolute hype in their sets. But NA teams have the ability to be dynamic. KPGD did whatever they did at Boston, then in under 3 months did what they did at Mela/MCB. 2 completely different style of sets. And I can see the likes of BK, NJ, Furteelay etc doing the same thing. We haven't seen that from the UK teams yet other than going from that hype af style, to doing live. Meaning, within music bhangra, we haven't seen the variation. If an NA team had to go to the UK with 16, they could be agile and create something that could bang and be as hype with the UK teams.
Competitions/Judges/Rubrics:
- Way more comps in NA than in UK. Rubrics across the US vary from comp to comp and range in style from Bruin on one end to MCB on the other and everything in between. With only 1 comp in the UK, maybe thats why there is not as much diversity in the UK.
- Maybe its the variety in judges with so many comps ranging across the continent. Each region having different judges that come from different styles. I know a big thing here is to create your own identity. Based on what I've watched, I don't really know if that kind of thing has been pushed in the UK.
- Another thing to keep in mind is that UK sets feel same thing for 8 minutes - hype af/formations/mechanisms. Judges/rubrics here push ups/downs/change in tempo and having variety in the routine. I don't know whats pushed in the UK but that is why, to me, there is more diversity in sets here.
In this specific aspect, with the circuits number of comps, number of different judges/rubrics, it feels like I'm comparing apples to oranges. The circuits are just plain and simply different.
Individual dancing:
Man. This is where UK teams, if you want me to officially call you guys the best, this is where ya'll need to step up. I rarely see some individual dancing moments, or full on domination of a set like we see here in NA. When you watch amazing performances from NA teams, you notice certain dancers and are like yo. who is that. Not once have I said that about a UK team other than the girls on JVD at WBBC.
UK teams: show me some dominance in a jodi dancing like Prabh and Jagmeet from SPD. Cherag and Amrinder from Fauj. The Khera twins from NJ. Benny and Surmeet from old school VCU. I could list many more filthy filthy jodis over the years but for the sake of time and length i wont. And lets apply that across a full team. Not going with the same teams, but damn. That BK team from 2013? Show me a squad of 12 from the UK that can match that 12.
You gotta take my word here, I'm not trying to rag on the UK. But your sets don't allow for it. Seems like dancers focus on only hitting spots, and going 150% all out the whole time. Which, while trying to move alot, is difficult. You can't lift your legs fully while covering so much ground in 4 beats. You can't properly rip a jandhu singha. There is no room for adding grace. The level of poise and strength in form in a Sumit Hira and the way he trains BK, is not seen in any of your teams imo.
I'm not saying to cut all the crazy movement/mechanisms. But shift some focus on pure, raw, dancing of bhangra. And allow some moments for it in your sets. Ya'll have the talent to be on par and better than the dancers here. But I don't think it has been shown yet. I genuinely believe that you guys could vary your sets more, train in pure raw dancing, and show a 16 that can hang and be as deep as some of the squads here, while maintaining your hype style.
Ya'll do that^ and I can say ya'll the best. But its hard for me to believe you guys can hang with some of the placing teams from 6ix or MCB on their rubrics. If ya'll don't change a thing, please come to bruin .
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I could be wrong in things I've said. Wherever it is, show me please. I don't watch every video. I ain't tryna edit it. But just wanted to highlight where I think each circuit is better than the other and why things might be different. I left some things out, esp the prep for 1 comp vs multiple in a season cause thats been said multiple times. But please bring up some other thoughts!
Much love.