what territory produces the best teams?

yraparla

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Vick said:
I'll just leave it at that, dont want to hurt the feelings of little boys... been there, done that...
hahaha listen to him aman, Vick has turned many men into whining little boys, don't fall for it.
 

TheBraveOne

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Vick said:
If you go by ratios, Empire's "competition:wins" ratio is greater than any team in history... Folk, modern, middle of the road, whatever, no canadian team besides SGPD even comes remotely close...

yah but empire has only won at modern comps...where as sgpd can win at both modern and folk comps + sgpd has not competed as much as empire
 

smehta

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There's a difference between which territory produces the best teams and which territory has the best teams currently just for the plain fact that people are trying to pit kj/sher/soormay in their prime vs. sgpd/empire/nachdi jawani. It makes no sense, you can't do that. It was two different times, with two different styles, with two different crowds that liked/nosey about certain things. Back then there was a more freestyle sense in bhangra..now there has been a slight movement in traditional bhangra creating a new era the past couple of years. So you can't argue anything without using the one thing that basically makes every thread a lot more annoying than it needs to be: opinions. Lets face it, I'm gonna be up front here when I read a thread like this. It's useless because its all opinionated. It's basically like saying... hey modern vs. traditional thread... why don't you have a baby with the "best bhangra territory" thread we have every month.... and call it "what territory produces the best teams".

It's funny because people are different in different threads....saying they like modern bhangra and hate traditional bhangra or the other way around ...and then in a thread like this give a shout out to allllll the teams in their area and take pride for them. I don't think that's wrong... I just think it's a bit confusing and interesting/weird?
 

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smehta said:
There's a difference between which territory produces the best teams and which territory has the best teams currently just for the plain fact that people are trying to pit kj/sher/soormay in their prime vs. sgpd/empire/nachdi jawani. It makes no sense, you can't do that. It was two different times, with two different styles, with two different crowds that liked/nosey about certain things. Back then there was a more freestyle sense in bhangra..now there has been a slight movement in traditional bhangra creating a new era the past couple of years. So you can't argue anything without using the one thing that basically makes every thread a lot more annoying than it needs to be: opinions. Lets face it, I'm gonna be up front here when I read a thread like this. It's useless because its all opinionated. It's basically like saying... hey modern vs. traditional thread... why don't you have a baby with the "best bhangra territory" thread we have every month.... and call it "what territory produces the best teams".

It's funny because people are different in different threads....saying they like modern bhangra and hate traditional bhangra or the other way around ...and then in a thread like this give a shout out to allllll the teams in their area and take pride for them. I don't think that's wrong... I just think it's a bit confusing and interesting/weird?
Well said dude. Much of Bhangra is now template based; some teams decide to follow it with their own variations and excel at being traditional while others rather stick to practicing a unique style. It's difficult and fruitless to compare the two because facts can't be drawn from opinions; therefore making it impossible to answer the question of this thread.
 

Avneet

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But then couldn't you easily call the "best" territory, or top territories, the ones that have produced some of the most successful teams in EACH category: Traditional, Modern, and the teams that have a little bit of both??? If we went down the "what is the best team" route then yes I agree we are comparing apples to oranges and we will get no where, but you can look at a region over all and get a sense of where some of the powerhouses are coming from, in respect to their own style. Just a thought.

Also, I haven't seen the biggest Modern lovers or the huge Traditional lovers, especially the ones who are also known to be very vocal on this site, come on this thread and necessarily advocate for allll teams in their region saying they now like that style- if they don't care for teams with an opposite style they will still stick to their guns when it comes down to a "which is better" debate, I am sure. But there are A LOT of ppl who do know to give respect and props to all sorts of teams, who don't post on this site very often, and some of them, including myself, have posted on this thread and listed off the teams in their region and there is nothing wrong with that. And you naturally would want to give shout outs to the greatest teams in your region because HOPEFULLY (if Bhangra is still "fun" and not a new age twisted version of the "West Side Story"- haha bhangra gangs) these teams have your friends dancing on them- style has nothing to do with it.

Also, in terms of "opinion".... There is something I hope this site graduates to very soon- REGARDLESS of what your style is or which you enjoy better, there is no harm in giving props to the team that is doing very well at what THEY DO. If you do, it doesn't mean you are going to all of a sudden change your style, or that you're not a true, hardcore traditional/modern fan because you gave props to the other side, and you're certainly not going to catch any disease and die from it!!! In the words of true old school- "Don't hate, appreciate" =)
 
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i think you also gotta consider that there are a buncha comps in the west coast (cali and bc) so theres more opportunity for a team to become a powerhouse there n for other teams to get more recognition by competing a lot since so many competitions are just a drive away. there are so many little details that put some teams and some areas at an advantage over other teams and regions. that is why it is difficult and kind of meaningless to compare teams in that manner. i think if a team has a flawless performance and a great set and they only are able to compete once i would still consider them to be a great team because of that performance...

another thing that is confusing to me is that everyone talks up teams that have one soo many competitions and all but then at the same time after most competitions people complain that someone or another got robbed or what not. i think everyone is wastin time tryin to prove their region or their style is the best n jus focus on havin fun performin. even though someone may become a "celebrity in the bhangra world" it means nothin in the end haha. so i say drop this stuff n jus be humble n hav fun
 

Meistro

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yeah, too many variables in this thread. Naveen good point on "everyone talks up teams that have won soo many competitions and all but then at the same time after most competitions people complain that someone or another got robbed". hahah so true, but I only made my POV based on wins alone, despite robbings or burglaries or shafted teams. Then again, in my opinion teams in BC usually don't win without deserving it, another statement that is subjective............subjective subjective subjective!
 

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Naveen Singh Khokhar said:
even though someone may become a "celebrity in the bhangra world" it means nothin in the end haha.
Lollll... SO VERY TRUE! Sadly enough, some do consider themselves to be pseudo celebrities =( I think we all quietly feel sorry for them.
 

Gugu

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I feel like any debate/topic is said to be "pointless" or "useless" on BTF nowadays. I agree the "modern/traditional" debate gets out of hand, but I think this thread is quite valid. Yes, it is subjective, like pretty much anything else on these forums. It's not like anyone is putting a team or a "territory" down, were just giving opinions on which area produces good quality teams at a high frequency. It's just like sports analysts saying AFC East is the best division in football, nothing wrong with it. It's ok to still post these kinda topics IMO, and really what else do we have to talk about in the offseason? Lol
 

smehta

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Avneet said:
In the words of true old school- "Don't hate, appreciate" =)
I never said that I was hating on anyone...I just said it was interesting to see.
 

Avneet

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smehta said:
Avneet said:
In the words of true old school- "Don't hate, appreciate" =)
I never said that I was hating on anyone...I just said it was interesting to see.
No no, that wasn't towards you... just food for thought when it comes to "traditional vs modern" in general =)
 

Vick

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smehta said:
There's a difference between which territory produces the best teams and which territory has the best teams currently just for the plain fact that people are trying to pit kj/sher/soormay in their prime vs. sgpd/empire/nachdi jawani. It makes no sense, you can't do that. It was two different times, with two different styles, with two different crowds that liked/nosey about certain things. Back then there was a more freestyle sense in bhangra..now there has been a slight movement in traditional bhangra creating a new era the past couple of years. So you can't argue anything without using the one thing that basically makes every thread a lot more annoying than it needs to be: opinions. Lets face it, I'm gonna be up front here when I read a thread like this. It's useless because its all opinionated. It's basically like saying... hey modern vs. traditional thread... why don't you have a baby with the "best bhangra territory" thread we have every month.... and call it "what territory produces the best teams".

It's funny because people are different in different threads....saying they like modern bhangra and hate traditional bhangra or the other way around ...and then in a thread like this give a shout out to allllll the teams in their area and take pride for them. I don't think that's wrong... I just think it's a bit confusing and interesting/weird?
I feel like some parts of this post are directed at my dislike for traditional bhangra yet I pull hard for bay area/norcal teams... While I can't really stand traditional bhangra, I respect the dancers and effort they put into it... When comparing boring traditional teams from the bay to boring traditional teams from toronto, I still consider teams in the bay more talented... Just because a team is talented doesn't make them enjoyable to watch...
 

Vick

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amancheema said:
Vick said:
I'll just leave it at that, dont want to hurt the feelings of little boys... been there, done that...

Don't make comments like little boys either, thanks.
Oh it wasn't a little boy comment at all, I was actually laughing at that NYU comment with every ounce of adult in me... Your brain hasn't matured enough to decipher the difference between sarcasm and reality yet... Once you clear puberty, it will all make sense.... You gotta be able to grow a beard in a day to make sense of my words... You're young, perhaps we should create a kiddie thread for all the young kids Saleem?
 

KingGeorge

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Vick said:
amancheema said:
Vick said:
I'll just leave it at that, dont want to hurt the feelings of little boys... been there, done that...

Don't make comments like little boys either, thanks.
Oh it wasn't a little boy comment at all, I was actually laughing at that NYU comment with every ounce of adult in me... Your brain hasn't matured enough to decipher the difference between sarcasm and reality yet... Once you clear puberty, it will all make sense.... You gotta be able to grow a beard in a day to make sense of my words... You're young, perhaps we should create a kiddie thread for all the young kids Saleem?
Sarcasm? You laugh at another team with so much vigor on a thread that was made to voice opinions. Shut up and grow up. Please don't reply to this and ruin the thread for everyone, thanks uncle ji.
 

AnkurK

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Vick said:
amancheema said:
Vick said:
I'll just leave it at that, dont want to hurt the feelings of little boys... been there, done that...

Don't make comments like little boys either, thanks.
Oh it wasn't a little boy comment at all, I was actually laughing at that NYU comment with every ounce of adult in me... Your brain hasn't matured enough to decipher the difference between sarcasm and reality yet... Once you clear puberty, it will all make sense.... You gotta be able to grow a beard in a day to make sense of my words... You're young, perhaps we should create a kiddie thread for all the young kids Saleem?
Where does having the ability to grow a proper beard in one day come into this equation??? A thread that is discussing territories does not have anything to do with the growth of a beard in a day. Even if it comes down to the dancing ability, I am sure NJ toddlers are not able to grow beards over night yet they are probably twice as good as you are even capable of being.
 
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