Why the Carter III did so well...

[Jeeti]

This is my last topic regarding Lil Wayne in the off topic section, unless of course Saleem wants to add a separate Lil Wayne category...For those that have been quick to write him off as completely hype...I have two tracks which will MAYBE..just maybe...give him a bit more credit...

1. Part of being a hip hop artist is to be a voice of the community they represent...just because an artist isn't constantly flowin politics DOES NOT mean he is not politically conscious...which brings me to one of the tracks on the Carter III called Tie My Hands (which will be attached if I can figure it out), in this track...he manages to avoid his little similes and metaphors and go deeper...I think some of you more inclined to the more politically conscious rappers will enjoy this track.

2. Another part of being hip hop is being able to adapt to different styles as that will guarantee longevity (look at the difference between the blueprint and the black album)...ON THE SAME record (The Carter III)..Lil Wayne shows the ability to get on a very gritty Hot 97-ish type track with two nyc mixtape establishments right now in Fabolous and Juelz Santana. Despite some of the similes and metaphors, he is able to flow in a completely different style and this is very difficult and is very rarely found on on one album.

Although legends like Mos Def and Talib Kweli are excellent MC's...if you listen to an album such as Black on Both Sides..they are sometimes limited to one style in that particular album. Again, this is not taking anything away from Mos Def, Common, Talib Kweli, Dead Prez, give a bit of credit where credit is due. This is just the music..his drug use is a different topic for a different day.

 

[Kush]

K not to really argue because I think Lil' Wayne is a decent rapper, but you can't even say Lil' Waynes name in the same sentence as Mos Def, Common, or any of the rappers you named. It's not about being politically conscious really because as a lyricist Wayne is lethal. I just don't think that you can really sway the minds of people by trying to paint him as something more than he is, and that is a rapper (who controversially and magically got talent when The Carter came out cough ghostwriters cough) who knows how to pick his beats, and comes up with some very witty and entertaining lyrics. I'm downloading Tie My Hands right now, and will give my opinion after listening, but on every other Lil Wayne CD (starting with the Carter, because he is devoid of any other non-superficial tracks on all prior records) I skip right over anything that isn't hype. I mean, my jaw dropped when I heard "safe sex is great sex, better wear a latex, cause you don't want that late text, that 'I Think I'm Late' text" on the Lollipop remix, but Lil Wayne rockin like Dead Prez? not in a million years...

 

[Jeeti]

You gotta read the previous discussion located somewhere in the off topic between me, harman, and nikhil to understand why I would even go as far as to compare him to those rappers...I'm not arguing that he's better or should even be in the discussion...it was just that he got blasted pretty hard for being extremely overrated, so I made the case that even though he's not one of the greatest.. hes not really as "all hype" as people paint him.

 

[Sidhu]

this album was a little "too" poppy for me. hes become like every artist, people start to envy him, he starts hitting the radio more often, hes losing his old appeal. Ever since he started doing shit with like tpain or kanye hes become more mainstream, carter 2 was an amazing album- carter 3, eh not so much. best song on that album is "Martians" haha "i am not the same i am a martian"

 

[KaraN]

yea martians....i remember i was listenin to XM and they kept playing that song...i loved it...well i think itz too early to judge how good this guy really is...letz give him another 2-3 yeas...because in hip hop age...hez Still very very young

 

[Sidhu]

oh dont get me wrong, i love wayne, he's amazing, his old shit is off the hook man is wildd

 

[Kush]

KK i'll def check that thread out. Oh and btw, I was listening to my 500 degreez cd today and i wanted to throw up. I hated old school wayne. Anything prior to the carter gets a thumbs down (Beats were hot, lyrics were not). Someone upload the Carter III? I'm too lazy to look around for it lol.

 

[Jukie]

Lil wayne for president 2012


who's with me? LOL

 

[Jeeti]

I am. hhhahhah

 

[Jukie]

I actually contacted his manager... cuz I was gonna throw a concert for him

he goes for $75,000 for a guest appearance

 

[Mukandpuria]

dats actually cheap....I know others charge like 100,000 for 3 songs...

 

[Gugu]

Personally, I had no expectations from this album. I just picked it up to see what he has to offer, just for kicks. I gave it a few listens and it realllly grew on me. I think he's funny, creative, lyrically decent, and just a good entertainer from his random giggles to the funny rhymes of Mrs. Officer to the creativity in Dr. Carter, and so on and so forth. And those few aren't even the better songs on the album. I think every mainstream artist who sells a lot gets hated on no matter how good he is. Now Wayne's no Black Thought but he definitely manages to entertain me everytime.

Plus if he didn't throw "no homo" every 3 lines, I think some of his flows are sick