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best reply anybody could have given! it's a shame some people forget about the bhangra and think about the competition!rajkaran said:Overall Best Performance: Any team that danced their heart out on stage and had fun after 8 minutes without a care for the prize.
As heart-touching as Rajkaran's reply may be, it's also kinda weak-sauce. Kudos and respect to those who dance their hearts out and compete without care for recognition, but replies like those undermine the objectivity of the question. Why belittle those who have put countless hours and countless dollars into choreography, mix, vardiyan, props, dancers, practices, travel expenses..etc so that they can bring a polished final product to competitions in hopes for glory, honor, respect and upholding tradition and simplifying all that into the sentiment that you're the best just if you had fun?nitinchand said:bestbest reply anybody could have given! it's a shame some people forget about the bhangra and think about the competition!rajkaran said:Overall Best Performance: Any team that danced their heart out on stage and had fun after 8 minutes without a care for the prize.
+1kinnell said:As heart-touching as Rajkaran's reply may be, it's also kinda weak-sauce. Kudos and respect to those who dance their hearts out and compete without care for recognition, but replies like those undermine the objectivity of the question. Why belittle those who have put countless hours and countless dollars into choreography, mix, vardiyan, props, dancers, practices, travel expenses..etc so that they can bring a polished final product to competitions in hopes for glory, honor, respect and upholding tradition and simplifying all that into the sentiment that you're the best just if you had fun?nitinchand said:bestbest reply anybody could have given! it's a shame some people forget about the bhangra and think about the competition!rajkaran said:Overall Best Performance: Any team that danced their heart out on stage and had fun after 8 minutes without a care for the prize.
I applaud those who dance their hearts out and aren't competing for prizes. I have no doubt that almost everyone here dances because they love dancing itself. But objectively speaking, there are only a few performances in 2010 that can call themselves the "best" - haven't we grown out of the "everyone's a winner!" mentality?![]()
I disagree. I think the attitude inherent in Rajkaran's post is that everyone should be applauded for their commitment to dancing bhangra, "promoting Punjabi culture", and being committed to their team/themselves. I don't think that the "everyone's a winner" mentality means that you can't delineate between a good performance and a great one. For comps like Boston, Bruin, and VIBC, you have many teams that don't make it to the stage in the first place, so getting in already means that you're a winner in some regard. I think the most delegitimizing phenomena in the bhangra circuit were those teams that had members from all around the country and never practiced, gave poorly-coordinated performances, and then came online and said "well we did the best we could since we never practiced as a team until the night before LAWLZ." Thank God that doesn't fly anymore.sangeensingh said:+1kinnell said:As heart-touching as Rajkaran's reply may be, it's also kinda weak-sauce. Kudos and respect to those who dance their hearts out and compete without care for recognition, but replies like those undermine the objectivity of the question. Why belittle those who have put countless hours and countless dollars into choreography, mix, vardiyan, props, dancers, practices, travel expenses..etc so that they can bring a polished final product to competitions in hopes for glory, honor, respect and upholding tradition and simplifying all that into the sentiment that you're the best just if you had fun?nitinchand said:bestbest reply anybody could have given! it's a shame some people forget about the bhangra and think about the competition!rajkaran said:Overall Best Performance: Any team that danced their heart out on stage and had fun after 8 minutes without a care for the prize.
I applaud those who dance their hearts out and aren't competing for prizes. I have no doubt that almost everyone here dances because they love dancing itself. But objectively speaking, there are only a few performances in 2010 that can call themselves the "best" - haven't we grown out of the "everyone's a winner!" mentality?![]()
+1SikhMan said:No one is showing the love for the live teams, and it is impossible to compare live and music because people have their opinions and favorites, so I'm going to give live awards.
North America
Overall Best Performance: Heeray@ Pioneer
Most Creativity: ?
Best Execution: Heeray @ Pioneer
Best Dressed: Heeray whenever using the white vests and different colored kurtaa
Best Background Band (chimpta, bugchu, tumbi): Virse de Waris @ DDA XIII
Best Band (boliyan dhol): Amar Gill and Pali @ Pioneer with Heeray
Ya...Heeray dominated everything
I'm critiquing Rajkaran's response on the basis of the context, that is as an answer to the question "Who do you think had the best overall performance of the year?". While it does ask for one's opinion, I feel that his response is kinda dodgy in terms of what is asked. You're right that everyone should be commended for their commitment to bhangra and that even with a "Everyone's a winner" mentality, you can still differentiate between a good performance, a great performance and determine the best performances according to your personal preference. Yet, that was not how the question was answered and that's why I am disagreeing with Rajkaran.Ashveer said:I disagree. I think the attitude inherent in Rajkaran's post is that everyone should be applauded for their commitment to dancing bhangra, "promoting Punjabi culture", and being committed to their team/themselves. I don't think that the "everyone's a winner" mentality means that you can't delineate between a good performance and a great one. For comps like Boston, Bruin, and VIBC, you have many teams that don't make it to the stage in the first place, so getting in already means that you're a winner in some regard. I think the most delegitimizing phenomena in the bhangra circuit were those teams that had members from all around the country and never practiced, gave poorly-coordinated performances, and then came online and said "well we did the best we could since we never practiced as a team until the night before LAWLZ." Thank God that doesn't fly anymore.
so you're monitoring the forum to see if people are replying to the threads in a manner which relates to the topic? if so, you need to pick up the pace on regulation.kinnell said:I'm critiquing Rajkaran's response on the basis of the context, that is as an answer to the question "Who do you think had the best overall performance of the year?". While it does ask for one's opinion, I feel that his response is kinda dodgy in terms of what is asked. You're right that everyone should be commended for their commitment to bhangra and that even with a "Everyone's a winner" mentality, you can still differentiate between a good performance, a great performance and determine the best performances according to your personal preference. Yet, that was not how the question was answered and that's why I am disagreeing with Rajkaran.Ashveer said:I disagree. I think the attitude inherent in Rajkaran's post is that everyone should be applauded for their commitment to dancing bhangra, "promoting Punjabi culture", and being committed to their team/themselves. I don't think that the "everyone's a winner" mentality means that you can't delineate between a good performance and a great one. For comps like Boston, Bruin, and VIBC, you have many teams that don't make it to the stage in the first place, so getting in already means that you're a winner in some regard. I think the most delegitimizing phenomena in the bhangra circuit were those teams that had members from all around the country and never practiced, gave poorly-coordinated performances, and then came online and said "well we did the best we could since we never practiced as a team until the night before LAWLZ." Thank God that doesn't fly anymore.![]()
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karna pehndaGurbir23 said:sexy timeAnkush said:Kinnell and Rajbir, i am booking a room for you two at fever! lol =)
I'm expressing my disdain for a "heart-felt" response (that has become too prevalent these days) that did nothing to answer the question at hand. Yes, I eat babies for breakfast. NOM NOM NOM.Rajbir said:so you're monitoring the forum to see if people are replying to the threads in a manner which relates to the topic? if so, you need to pick up the pace on regulation.
if not, then are you simply disagreeing because you don't like the manner in which his reponse was formulated (because he gave an opiniated reponse in a "unique" manner, yet allowing others to share their opinions simply because they followed the "parameters")?
+1SikhMan said:No one is showing the love for the live teams, and it is impossible to compare live and music because people have their opinions and favorites, so I'm going to give live awards.
North America
Overall Best Performance: Heeray@ Pioneer
Most Creativity: ?
Best Execution: Heeray @ Pioneer
Best Dressed: Heeray whenever using the white vests and different colored kurtaa
Best Background Band (chimpta, bugchu, tumbi): Virse de Waris @ DDA XIII
Best Band (boliyan dhol): Amar Gill and Pali @ Pioneer with Heeray
Ya...Heeray dominated everything
India
Overall Best Performance: Lyallpur Khalsa College
Most Creativity: Shiv Chand@ under 19 state championship
Best Execution: Lyallpur Khalsa College
Best Dressed: GNDU Amritsar's Jhumar
Best Background Band: Patiala University @ PU Saufest
Best Band: Pappi Gill and unknown dholi with Lyallpur Khalsa College