KAKA KICKED OFF STAGE

[rajkaran]

I remember one year they had some bani singer I forget, and there were people drinking beer and listening to it, rubbed me the wrong way.

Another shining moment for the punjabi community eh?

That's so bad!

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From the video, it looked to me like he was just asking to be kicked off stage...and I think the girls were very professional in simply just walking off stage.

 

[Chidiya]

Ya, that's a bit uncalled for but as usual, Punjabis DID overreact. But, he did suck at singing. I was left saying wtf?

What do you mean by that?? As usual punjabis did overreact? Please elaborate about the as usual part.

dont get me wrong, i'm punjabi myself. we have a tendency to overreact. i watched this angle quite a few times and hes really not that close to her

 

[Shahrukh]

Inoss bro
its not about being too close or too far from the girls

its about respecting the dancers on stage

they are dancing for his performance and hes like eyeing them and what not
its just not right

not respectful to the girls

i dont think the crowd overreacted at all

 

[Jeeti]

going too far...if they let him go on...he might of went even further...

NJ girls, im sure there is alot of family in the crowd and etc...I know if my sister was up there, I would be like wtf..never have I seen a singer go that far...sure it was mild but its t dot right..desi to the max..

....the comment above regarding you know if it was your family up there....of course...you would be upset..BUT...at the same time, I think this is a very blatant overreaction. If the girls were uncomfortable...they are grown ass women..get off the stage but of course this is Toronto...and if someone thinks you crossed the line, you will hear about it...ALSO, there was no buzz in the crowd of anything being inappropriate until the guy throws something, which someone said he was drunk...so my problem with this is...these drunk guys started getting upset (we don't know the whole story...what if the girl that was up there was his gf, or perhaps her secret admirer)...and it seems like nothing would have happened if that guy didnt throw that can at him...the organizers at his song break coulda just been like yo chill with the girls on stage....Kaka also needs to be a bit more sensitive..after watching the video, this seems like a ridiculously unusual situation...

picture this...if Kaka was at Bhangra Blowout performing and he did the same thing...I'm confident nothing would have happened...all it takes is a couple dudes to start a mob...cuz they'd rather throw Kaka off the stage then upset people in their community.

Shahrukh...you have a point, there should be no reason for Kaka to be that close to those girls, but you have to look at Kaka's perspective for a second..if he didn't think he was doing anything too inappropriate and if no one told him..? What should he do? I am almost positivee that Kaka has danced with girls on stage before..but hes singing man, he can't try and gauge the crowd's morality while hes trying to perform, and for the crowd to start throwing stuff at him is ridiculous...theres gotta be a better way to handle this..then a couple intoxicated dudes getting upset and putting an end to the show.

..Before I get slaughtered for this post, let me say that there are two sides to every story...I'm not excusing his behavior..just trying to play devil's advocate.

 

[Waleed]

Jeeti, I think you raise a good point. There is no doubt, that Kaka was shwasted and it seemed like he was more interested impressing the female dancers than entertaining the crowd. Anyways, at the end of the day no one got hurt and Kaka got the message, he'll think twice before he pulls one of these acts again.

If the girls were uncomfortable...they are grown ass women..get off the stage
-Jeeti

I think the girls were probably really confused and uncomfortable and didn't know how to react. I think the fault lies with the organizers for standing by idly for so long.

However it would be wise for us to examine if there is a better solution to this in case it occurs in the future. I wonder if the people who forced Kaka off stage created a commotion because they knew the girls (friends,family) or just because they didn't want any girls disrespected on stage? Lets say no one knew the girls, would any of those guys make a big deal out of it?

Kaka is a guest artist visiting from India. The organizers should have stepped in and politely asked him to either stop or exit the stage. If these were girls from my team, I would either ask the girls to come off stage or ask Kaka to stop, "bus kar bus kar"  .

Also, at 2:38 he completely starts humming the song and is like.. damn I'm too drunk to pronounce each word right now.

good one (am I allowed to say ees a guhd wahn?)

Only once a year and yes you've now fulfilled your quote for 2008

 

[Simar]

i lol'd when i read that "bitten" then finally figured out that u meant beaten lol

lol hahah my bad i was half asleep when i wrote it, yeah i meant beaten lol

 

[NavDheri]

and I think the girls were very professional in simply just walking off stage.

i personally don't think the girls were being professional....they should have walked off the first time he touched them if they were offended.

Its one thing to stand by a female dancer and another to put your arm around them. I'd be pretty mad if i was there myself.

 

[yraparla]

I'm kind of surprised at some of the self-righteousness on this thread. You can't really blame anybody exclusively, it's too simplistic:

Was he extremely inappropriate for the circumstance and context? Yes, absolutely. But you can't exclusively blame him.

He was drunk, so he should not have been on stage. He has a reputation for drunk performances, so he should not have been invited.

Also, many in the crowd were drunk, so that self-righteousness is no longer credible.

It's also too easy to blame the organizers. If they didn't put him on they would have gotten heat anyway, so I'm sure they figured it was his responsibility as an individual and artist to respect the audience and put on a good performance.

Can't blame the dancers because they wanted to put on a good performance and walking off is a difficult thing to consider and execute in the middle of a routine


In all honesty, what he did was pretty mild for what we see, say in a club... it was the context that was inappropriate. I think the girls did the right thing by waiting to see if it was for show and he was just playing...when they realized he was plain drunk they left. The organizers should not have jumped in unless they felt like he was violating their space and personal selves, but by that point the girls had left anyway so it's moot.

I'm with Jeeti, there's a better solution. The audience should simply have left. The dancers did.

 

[Vic]

To be honest, if you listen to whats going on, when Kaka approaches the girls and is singing "nachna odna ney" and he laughs, the crowd laughs along with him. And when he puts his arm around the girl, It looks like he's barely touching her. I don't know, looks to me like he's just trying to have fun out there.

But the other side is what you all have been saying.

 

[ban3rg]

good one (am I allowed to say ees a guhd wahn?)

Only once a year and yes you've now fulfilled your quote for 2008
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Hahahaha, good deal thanks

 

[Kaur]

If a singer has a reputation for being drunk on stage and you can clearly see it then why would you get on stage to begin with and risk it? I agree their are always different opinions, but I know if I was dancing my brothers would get on stage, slap me first for even getting on stage to dance in the first place and not walking off stage right when I realised he was drunk.!!!

 

[pluthra]

Mariam is on the phone with Kaka right now, he's performing in Michigan soon... hahahahaha...

BTW Vick - you crack me up man, good one (am I allowed to say ees a guhd wahn?)

Definitely lol that was hilarious

is this supposed to be funny????? mariam doesnt got any respect for people who drink-i doubt she'd be askin him to perform in Michigan after attainin this rep....not funny at all

 

[A.T.]

kaka needs to keep it in his pantsss..and to avoid these kinds of situations..i think girls should dance behind female singers to avoid and males behind male singers..keep it simple

 

[Sher]

kaka needs to keep it in his pantsss..and to avoid these kinds of situations..i think girls should dance behind female singers to avoid and males behind male singers..keep it simple

I think that should be the case to a point. Not all singers are like this, and I dont erally see anything wrong with a coed team being up there. My team performed with Pammi Bai and ate dinner with him, but nobody (guys or girls) really felt endangered because he was respectful throughout.

Yea Kaka did go a bit too far in the video, but it was also appearant that the members mob were also wasted and weren't really in a good position to take action fairly. However Inoss, I feel it is unfair to pin the whole overreacting deal on Punjabis, and I'm a little surprised that you would do this if you are a Punjabi. Growing up, I have found this is a pretty unfair stereotype as its not Punjabis that are overreacting, its drunk Punjabis or rather drunk people in general that tend to overreact.

 

[Manjotnsj]

woww..he fucked upp :-\
and his voice is horrible

 

[Varun]

voice wasnt his best but, cmon, it was not horrible. please dont make me post some youtube videos to show you what horrible singing is. Also, what do you self-righteous people think of this video of jazzy b performing for the same Toronto crowd?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T1DKH-W30kI

 

[Mukandpuria]

Varun i skimmed through the video....this is the way i look at it..Jazzy was touching the girl and putting his hands around her....and even if you ignore that and look at the video..the environment was different..the way Jazzy interacted with the audience and the girl is different from the way Kaka did? its hard to explain but there is a difference. There is a huge difference in the way Jazzy preformed and used the dancers as apart of his show as apposed to Kaka....lol I think Jazzy's voice was better than Kaka's, even those Jazzy wasn't exactly on key.

 

[Gurjit]

voice wasnt his best but, cmon, it was not horrible. please dont make me post some youtube videos to show you what horrible singing is. Also, what do you self-righteous people think of this video of jazzy b performing for the same Toronto crowd?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T1DKH-W30kI

This is a different situation. This girl seems more like someone from Jazzy B's camp or someone who clearly was there to fill the part in that specific song. She does not seem like a volunteer dancer from a local team

 

[Vick]

This video cannot be compared to Kaka's... Totally different... It's funny, that girl is dancing without a chunni(or whatever you call it), in most places, thats a big no no... Her ass should be kicked off stage.. You're telling me that in the city of Toronto, thats the best female dancer they could find? She can't dance, nor does she look good... I don't blame Jazzy for keeping his distance...

 

[Dholaholic]

this is why girls shouldnt do bhangra lol jk