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Anybody Good With Canadian History?
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his buddy wikipedia is a smart-ass, too.
1) Bluebirds? As in the birds? Are they important in canada I dont get it??
2) I feel like I'm doing research here, but this was the first google result so not too hard
ok that should get you started? dinner time!
1) Bluebirds? As in the birds? Are they important in canada I dont get it??
2) I feel like I'm doing research here, but this was the first google result so not too hard
ok that should get you started? dinner time!
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now i dont agree with cheating or getting knowledge from another source when it comes to school but, Haha, since you guys called me out, I have to chime in...
2) Regarding the Conscription Crisis: Well its an interesting topic, something that each canadian student probably studied extensively. For those not canadian, interested in this post, ill back up a bit.
Basically the conscription crisis, was an effort by the British colonist to force labour from their colonies to what work they felt as necessary. When WW1 broke out, the Canadian employed a heavy recuriting campaign. They offered rewards for many young men solidiers at that time who were stuggling because of economic pressures our country faced at that time. You have to realize, Canada did not at this time have COMPLETE autonomy from the United Kingdon, maybe only in print. Much of our economy was dependent on the actions of their superior.
So, Canada recurited a FAR greater number of solidiers than they actually thought they would get. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART: Since the UK have such a great hand in Canadian issues, their imported alot of their young workers to build the infrastructure of Canada. What happened? Those kids doing labour, decided to jump ship and take the incentives that was provided by the recuriting campaign. So the majority of the recuritees were UK immigrants actually sent to Canada to do work.
This time Canada was trying to quiet french speaking canadians, because there were rumblings of separatism and revolt. So they actually took the french volunteers and spread them throughout canada and took the english speaking volunteers (consisting mostly of UK immigrants remember) and put them into french speaking areas. A way to to mix up patriotism.
The mistreatment of French speaking solidiers and batlions (something harper referenced last week in his speech) laid the groundwork for solidiers to not volunteer for the army from Quebec. After the war dragged on, people realized the fight in Europe was much more dire, so naturally, as expected everything from war efforts in Canada to number of volunteers dropped. Canada no longer had the resources to provide huge incentives like they did before.
SO WHAT DID THEY HAVE TO DO, CONSCRIPTION, or something similar that americans would understand, the draft.
English speaking canada LOVED the idea. FINALLY, a way for us to repay our fathers and rulers in the UK! Much of the propganda that the UK delivered was in english speaking canada, so there is no surprise why they had no problems with it. BUT, french speaking canada was upset. They did not want the draft. For two reasons: a) the mistreatment of the solidiers and b) the fact that they believed canada had NO buisness in an imperialistic european war.
(in my opinion they were right).
Nonetheless, they passed the resolution, Borden (our PM) had an upcoming election. He needed support. The best way? The canadians had a problem with the dieing solidiers overseas. SO, he extended the draft voting to the solidiers overseas. What did that do? All solidiers serving were in favour to get new forces (obviously) and so it gained steam with the soliders overseas which appeased many families at home (thinking that YAY, our family might come home if we get new soliders). To insure the vote, immigrants from the central powers (who we were fighting against in WW1 on behalf of those brits) were denied voting.. I THINK, double check that.
So, the draft was in place, but it was a flimsy draft. Exemptions were VERY easy to come by. In some cases you could choose "career advancement" as a reason why not to be drafted. There where riots all over Quebec, which drifted them father away from central canada. The government amended the act, and therefore it was harder to get exemption. But by the time that they amended it, the war was almost over, and the central powers began throwing up their white flag.
BUT THE LASTING EFFECT OF THE CRISIS still looms today. There is a sour taste in the french speaking parts of Canada because they dont trust central canada. That even with so much opposition within quebec, they could still go ahead. It left quebicans not trusting the government and english canada weary of the french. It divided the country.
So much so that Borden's party wouldnt serve in that province until treaudeau's days. They can defintely hold a grudge....
This is strictly from what I remember, and a quick phone call I made to a buddy. But you should check out everything I said, I may be wrong (especailly about the denial of voting thing)
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I am assuming by your 3rd question your talking abou the name change? Well long story search, it was kitchner who had a high german influence. I think it was called the city of germany or I cant remember the exact name. Berlin something.
I actually dont think that there were actually a lot of German people there jsut those of german decent from another place that settled there. Anyways, with World War I obviously there was great hate for Germany. Remember, with the allied forces UK (by relation Canada) fighting the Central powers (germany russia etc) there was a lot of regional violence against people of those decents. Canadians were drafted to fight a war not for their own people but for the protection of people that they didnt know.
So they didnt take their frustration out on the UK (NO THAT WOULD BE TOOOO LOGICAL) but we took it out of the germans. So there was a name change from Berlin to kitchner.
It was a step in Canada's direction towards anti german sentiment. Actually people of german decent were denied the right to vote. People with german names were founded listed from phonebooks are tortured and systemtically discriminated against.
Anything to do with germany was abondoned during that time and that would include the name change from Berlin to Kitchener.
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Hope this helps, but you shouldnt be doing this haa.
2) Regarding the Conscription Crisis: Well its an interesting topic, something that each canadian student probably studied extensively. For those not canadian, interested in this post, ill back up a bit.
Basically the conscription crisis, was an effort by the British colonist to force labour from their colonies to what work they felt as necessary. When WW1 broke out, the Canadian employed a heavy recuriting campaign. They offered rewards for many young men solidiers at that time who were stuggling because of economic pressures our country faced at that time. You have to realize, Canada did not at this time have COMPLETE autonomy from the United Kingdon, maybe only in print. Much of our economy was dependent on the actions of their superior.
So, Canada recurited a FAR greater number of solidiers than they actually thought they would get. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART: Since the UK have such a great hand in Canadian issues, their imported alot of their young workers to build the infrastructure of Canada. What happened? Those kids doing labour, decided to jump ship and take the incentives that was provided by the recuriting campaign. So the majority of the recuritees were UK immigrants actually sent to Canada to do work.
This time Canada was trying to quiet french speaking canadians, because there were rumblings of separatism and revolt. So they actually took the french volunteers and spread them throughout canada and took the english speaking volunteers (consisting mostly of UK immigrants remember) and put them into french speaking areas. A way to to mix up patriotism.
The mistreatment of French speaking solidiers and batlions (something harper referenced last week in his speech) laid the groundwork for solidiers to not volunteer for the army from Quebec. After the war dragged on, people realized the fight in Europe was much more dire, so naturally, as expected everything from war efforts in Canada to number of volunteers dropped. Canada no longer had the resources to provide huge incentives like they did before.
SO WHAT DID THEY HAVE TO DO, CONSCRIPTION, or something similar that americans would understand, the draft.
English speaking canada LOVED the idea. FINALLY, a way for us to repay our fathers and rulers in the UK! Much of the propganda that the UK delivered was in english speaking canada, so there is no surprise why they had no problems with it. BUT, french speaking canada was upset. They did not want the draft. For two reasons: a) the mistreatment of the solidiers and b) the fact that they believed canada had NO buisness in an imperialistic european war.
(in my opinion they were right).
Nonetheless, they passed the resolution, Borden (our PM) had an upcoming election. He needed support. The best way? The canadians had a problem with the dieing solidiers overseas. SO, he extended the draft voting to the solidiers overseas. What did that do? All solidiers serving were in favour to get new forces (obviously) and so it gained steam with the soliders overseas which appeased many families at home (thinking that YAY, our family might come home if we get new soliders). To insure the vote, immigrants from the central powers (who we were fighting against in WW1 on behalf of those brits) were denied voting.. I THINK, double check that.
So, the draft was in place, but it was a flimsy draft. Exemptions were VERY easy to come by. In some cases you could choose "career advancement" as a reason why not to be drafted. There where riots all over Quebec, which drifted them father away from central canada. The government amended the act, and therefore it was harder to get exemption. But by the time that they amended it, the war was almost over, and the central powers began throwing up their white flag.
BUT THE LASTING EFFECT OF THE CRISIS still looms today. There is a sour taste in the french speaking parts of Canada because they dont trust central canada. That even with so much opposition within quebec, they could still go ahead. It left quebicans not trusting the government and english canada weary of the french. It divided the country.
So much so that Borden's party wouldnt serve in that province until treaudeau's days. They can defintely hold a grudge....
This is strictly from what I remember, and a quick phone call I made to a buddy. But you should check out everything I said, I may be wrong (especailly about the denial of voting thing)
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I am assuming by your 3rd question your talking abou the name change? Well long story search, it was kitchner who had a high german influence. I think it was called the city of germany or I cant remember the exact name. Berlin something.
I actually dont think that there were actually a lot of German people there jsut those of german decent from another place that settled there. Anyways, with World War I obviously there was great hate for Germany. Remember, with the allied forces UK (by relation Canada) fighting the Central powers (germany russia etc) there was a lot of regional violence against people of those decents. Canadians were drafted to fight a war not for their own people but for the protection of people that they didnt know.
So they didnt take their frustration out on the UK (NO THAT WOULD BE TOOOO LOGICAL) but we took it out of the germans. So there was a name change from Berlin to kitchner.
It was a step in Canada's direction towards anti german sentiment. Actually people of german decent were denied the right to vote. People with german names were founded listed from phonebooks are tortured and systemtically discriminated against.
Anything to do with germany was abondoned during that time and that would include the name change from Berlin to Kitchener.
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Hope this helps, but you shouldnt be doing this haa.
