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Best place to buy dhol in London (close to central)

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I've been looking for a new dhol from different places but I've decided to get a good quality one which I'll keep forever.. I'm going to London this weekend and I've been on the jas musicals site and they have ridiculous prices like £857 for a dhol!!!! Wtf I'm looking for a Kali tali dhol with remo fiberskyn ebony ambassador, a thick dagga skin, and an in built microphone. Does anyone have an idea on how much that will cost? I thought about 200-300 (but barter it down) from jas musicals but why are they charging so much? Is jasmuicals the best shop or should igo elsewhere? I also need a lifetime guarantee on the dhol as well
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monisingh

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LOL ahaha...alright...go to made of music prices are cheaper, and what do you need a mic for? im pretty sure you don`t do gigs...unless you`re gonna join the 30 pound crew...
 

Dholi harsh

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Lol if you find someone selling a REAL kaali taali dhol for 300 with a mic and quality heads please let me know i will buy their entire stock. A pure kaali taali shell you might not even find for 300 lol. Plus when you put a mic in expect atleast 150-200 dollars ontop... think about it the mic itself costs 100-150 depending on what mic you choose.


I know some places where a real kaali taali dhol sells for $1,000 US...
 

monisingh

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Dholi harsh said:
Lol if you find someone selling a REAL kaali taali dhol for 300 with a mic and quality heads please let me know i will buy their entire stock. A pure kaali taali shell you might not even find for 300 lol. Plus when you put a mic in expect atleast 150-200 dollars ontop... think about it the mic itself costs 100-150 depending on what mic you choose.


I know some places where a real kaali taali dhol sells for $1,000 US...

those places are known as england lol...in all seriousness, kali taali from india can be bought for pretty cheap...just have a wood expert with you, make sure its a quality shell, and nice thick and heavy and then get some nice skins for it
 

monisingh

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ADholiCalledAli said:
Or any suggestions on what I should get for my dhol? Different woods, tilli heads etc...

when an englandi wants to buy a dhol... I usually tell them its better to buy them used, because of the stupidly high prices


go for kachi pakki, if you want this drum to last, take proper care of it, get a nice thick dagga skin for it, and a fiberskyn (sounds nice on a belly dhol, and its bloody impossible to rip it unless you try on purpose to rip it with a knife or something).
 

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ADholiCalledAli said:
I've been looking for a new dhol from different places but I've decided to get a good quality one which I'll keep forever.. I'm going to London this weekend and I've been on the jas musicals site and they have ridiculous prices like £857 for a dhol!!!! Wtf I'm looking for a Kali tali dhol with remo fiberskyn ebony ambassador, a thick dagga skin, and an in built microphone. Does anyone have an idea on how much that will cost? I thought about 200-300 (but barter it down) from jas musicals but why are they charging so much? Is jasmuicals the best shop or should igo elsewhere? I also need a lifetime guarantee on the dhol as well
Thanks
If you want asli kaali taaali, my mama's wife's cousin (i just call the guy uncle - but he love me (hehe)) owns a store in south hall. He can give you best rate for 400 Uk wale lb.
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Ok thanks bros. :) can you get a black fiberskyn remo? I'll get a Kachi pakki dhol, with remo fiberskyn, a thick dagga skin, a lifetime guarantee, a mic (if possible) and that's it! Does that sound good? I'll go to both of the shops and see the prices. Does anyone have an idea on how much that will cost??
 

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ADholiCalledAli said:
Ok thanks bros. :) can you get a black fiberskyn remo? I'll get a Kachi pakki dhol, with remo fiberskyn, a thick dagga skin, a lifetime guarantee, a mic (if possible) and that's it! Does that sound good? I'll go to both of the shops and see the prices. Does anyone have an idea on how much that will cost??

a shit ton by north american estimates, depending on the amount of pakki 300-400.


theres also bina musicals in london who I heard are cheaper but not sure
 
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Oh yeah I was looking on their website. They don't have much variety with the dhols and they have a sound clip for one but I'm pretty sure it's not from the actual dhol :/ made of music is in smethwick in Birmingham right? I'm happy to pay about 300 :)
 

DholiBMD

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Let me give you a view in to reality.


Buying what you want purely in england will end up costing about £600 - £800+ depending on where you go. Not many shops out there that I know of, only Bina musicals, JAS Musicals and Made of Music.


The shell on its own (kaali taali) will cost about £400. So lets say give or take £350 just to knock off a few quid. A remo skin will cost about £20 from JAS musicals where as online you can get it for £10 from drum stores. Dagga skin possibly an extra £10 - £15. Then you'll need to buy hooks (remember this is if you get a raw shell and do the WHOLE drum up your self). Hooks can cost about £2 each from JAS musicals for 9 hooks it would be £18. Then you need to buy rope £12 from JAS musicals. Then a belt which is £12. You also would need to get a socket/washer for the inside and the hooks which are £1.25 each so for 9 it would be £11.25. You would need a protection ring for the treble too which is £5. Also if you have no knowledge on dhols then they will tell you that you would need to "wood tune" the drum which is basically angling the edge of the wood on which the treble goes on for an authentic sound. They charge £7 for this.


Now for the mic, if you really want one and just set your mind on getting one 100% then I would advise a Shure SM57 which is about £80 - £100. Then the fitting of it will cost an extra £50 from JAS musicals.


So now total it up and you get £593.25 basically 600+ because I knocked off a few quid on some things.


You CAN buy this [SIZE=78%]http://www.jas-musicals.com/sectrad/JasProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=D145A&ProductCat=4&ProdCatDesc=Drum%20Instruments[/SIZE] as its the closest your going to get to a pure kaali taali and its about £250ish. But then your going to have to add the remo skin which is 20 then buy the mic for £90 (give or take) and install it for £50 which will total to £410 but for england thats the closest your going to get to your budget for a decent drum


IF you can just go to india and get a cheap quality shell like moni said and do it up back in uk thats what I did. I got a shell from india put a Remo ambassador on it, mic'd it up for a total of £150. The shell is a kachi pakki taali with about 70% being pure solid pakki and it sounds beastly
 
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Do you think I could get the shell from Pakistan? Only thing about dhols from Pakistan is that they are all Sufi dhols and are different to bhangra dhols... If I get the shell could I buy the heads and pay someone to fit them?
 

monisingh

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ADholiCalledAli said:
Do you think I could get the shell from Pakistan? Only thing about dhols from Pakistan is that they are all Sufi dhols and are different to bhangra dhols... If I get the shell could I buy the heads and pay someone to fit them?

yep you can get one from pakistan...Id recommend just getting the shell though (hooks on pakistani dhols look to thin and I think they are not strong enough to handle the tension of a remo or evans) another thing is the pakistani dhols have a flat sound, since the treble side is not angled ( you can tell them to do it but again im not sure if they are familiar with it). also to make sure you get a drum that`ll fit both gbc and remo and evans then just take a 13 ( or 12 or 14) inch ring with you, and tell the dhol maker to make sure this ring or drum head fits (should not be more than a half inch in space, less than half inch is also good.
 

Dholi harsh

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Your best bet would be to get a kaali taali shell from india or pakistan and just have it fitted or fit it yourself. And also i know alot of people use the SM57 mic for their dhol but i prefer the audixD2.... its a little more then the sm57 but its worth it.
 

monisingh

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Dholi harsh said:
Your best bet would be to get a kaali taali shell from india or pakistan and just have it fitted or fit it yourself. And also i know alot of people use the SM57 mic for their dhol but i prefer the audixD2.... its a little more then the sm57 but its worth it.

was thinking of getting it for one of my drums, how the sound like ? and is it the one in the dhol you use for vids ? whats the positioning ?
 

Dholi harsh

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Yessir thats the one i use for my dhol in my videos and i positioned it relatively close to the dhaga side (prolly not more then 4 inches from the dhaga skin to the tip of the mic) and i don't have it angled at all so it is parallel to the dhol basically. I love that mic and i actually replaced it with the SM57 i had in there before
 
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