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Check youtube.Tuckerrrr said:just that usually westerners who havent seen bhangra have a greater appreciation for pure folk bhangra because it's so different and not remixed with things they might've already seen or heard. the effect of a live dhol, singer and band can't be replicated with a cd.
actually vick, how awkward would it be to see young men in loincloths and flapped turbans dancing to "party like a rockstar" and have gun shot effects and "hey yo empire tell em where we at". Sure, WE understand what empire is trying to do because we see them do this in competitive settings.... but ppl like Oprah and brad pitt are gonna be like wtf? Bhangra is appealing enough to american ppl WITHOUT that american stuff in the routine. If it works for them at competitions then by all means do it, but the white house asked for an ethnic dance, now why would you throw in random hip hop beats? To empire fans, their ideas are entertaining, now for a non indian audience, reverse that. They would really appreciate the true essence of bhangra and the music.Vick said:Yea, it's on the south lawn which is right in front of the white house I believe...It's usually where Obama's helicopter lands... You can see it from that one fence where everyone takes pictures, but the tent is pretty well covered, you can't really see anything on the inside... You might be able to hear the music though... Since it's an official state dinner, I doubt you will be able to get anywhere close to the white house...
And to those that want to see a folk routine in the white house, please man... It's all about entertainment in there, folk bhangra would just stink up the environment...
ultimately I think this is what we are all implying. who knows! maybe oprah will invite them on her talk show since obama's first state dinner is such a historical event!Underground Gabroo said:Congrats to Empire for this feat
I don't agree completely. Using hip hop and whatever modern styles allows a generic non-Indian audience to connect with the performance with their own experiences. It also shows that although we know our roots, American South asians can incorporate both cultures and connect with the audience on that level. Honestly, doing a whole live performance might drag on for non-bhangra enthusiasts who cannot tell the difference between dhamaal from phumaniyaan. With a modern performance, at least the audience is engaged the whole time with a good blend of traditional and modern styles. Not saying, a good 1 minute live piece wouldn't be a bad idea though! But for performances like these, changing the mix, the dance, and the style every now and then is definitely a solid idea...and I think whoever researched the teams made a good decision by picking Empire (although VCU, and any other comparable team could have done just as well).Meistro said:actually vick, how awkward would it be to see young men in loincloths and flapped turbans dancing to "party like a rockstar" and have gun shot effects and "hey yo empire tell em where we at". Sure, WE understand what empire is trying to do because we see them do this in competitive settings.... but ppl like Oprah and brad pitt are gonna be like wtf? Bhangra is appealing enough to american ppl WITHOUT that american stuff in the routine. If it works for them at competitions then by all means do it, but the white house asked for an ethnic dance, now why would you throw in random hip hop beats? To empire fans, their ideas are entertaining, now for a non indian audience, reverse that. They would really appreciate the true essence of bhangra and the music.Vick said:Yea, it's on the south lawn which is right in front of the white house I believe...It's usually where Obama's helicopter lands... You can see it from that one fence where everyone takes pictures, but the tent is pretty well covered, you can't really see anything on the inside... You might be able to hear the music though... Since it's an official state dinner, I doubt you will be able to get anywhere close to the white house...
And to those that want to see a folk routine in the white house, please man... It's all about entertainment in there, folk bhangra would just stink up the environment...
you're not getting the point dude, Empire was asked by the dinner organizers to TAKE OUT all hip hop and american music from their mix.abhigames said:I don't agree completely. Using hip hop and whatever modern styles allows a generic non-Indian audience to connect with the performance with their own experiences. It also shows that although we know our roots, American South asians can incorporate both cultures and connect with the audience on that level. Honestly, doing a whole live performance might drag on for non-bhangra enthusiasts who cannot tell the difference between dhamaal from phumaniyaan. With a modern performance, at least the audience is engaged the whole time with a good blend of traditional and modern styles. Not saying, a good 1 minute live piece wouldn't be a bad idea though! But for performances like these, changing the mix, the dance, and the style every now and then is definitely a solid idea...and I think whoever researched the teams made a good decision by picking Empire (although VCU, and any other comparable team could have done just as well).Meistro said:actually vick, how awkward would it be to see young men in loincloths and flapped turbans dancing to "party like a rockstar" and have gun shot effects and "hey yo empire tell em where we at". Sure, WE understand what empire is trying to do because we see them do this in competitive settings.... but ppl like Oprah and brad pitt are gonna be like wtf? Bhangra is appealing enough to american ppl WITHOUT that american stuff in the routine. If it works for them at competitions then by all means do it, but the white house asked for an ethnic dance, now why would you throw in random hip hop beats? To empire fans, their ideas are entertaining, now for a non indian audience, reverse that. They would really appreciate the true essence of bhangra and the music.Vick said:Yea, it's on the south lawn which is right in front of the white house I believe...It's usually where Obama's helicopter lands... You can see it from that one fence where everyone takes pictures, but the tent is pretty well covered, you can't really see anything on the inside... You might be able to hear the music though... Since it's an official state dinner, I doubt you will be able to get anywhere close to the white house...
And to those that want to see a folk routine in the white house, please man... It's all about entertainment in there, folk bhangra would just stink up the environment...
....Meistro said:you're not getting the point dude, Empire was asked by the dinner organizers to TAKE OUT all hip hop and american music from their mix.
well thats different lol.you're not getting the point dude, Empire was asked by the dinner organizers to TAKE OUT all hip hop and american music from their mix.
haha if this is true then even the obama administration is sick of modern "bhangra" - YES WE CAN!Meistro said:you're not getting the point dude, Empire was asked by the dinner organizers to TAKE OUT all hip hop and american music from their mix.