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Blowout kept the judges anonymous until we met them though we got their bios, so I won't say who they are. All of their bios are strong. They have the background to be great judges.
This next part is my own opinion, not one of my team or anyone else. mine only. This is also nothing to do with Cal, UNC, or VT as the placing teams. You guys did amazing and nothing can be taken away from that. This is about the JUDGES:
The judges meeting was one of the worst, if not the worst feedback sessions I have been to. I left this one with nothing constructive to take away. To start, It seemed like one of the judges docked points for things that had nothing to do with our actual routine as he spent more time talking about things aside from our actual dancing. I had no problem with the things the judge said as they were valid, but they had nothing to do with our actual routine and it took a minute and a half of our 5 mins with the judges. It didn't seem like any of them genuinely liked our routine which is fine. Everyone has their own opinion. They didn't straight up say that to us, but we got that feeling with the way they were giving feedback and it was being implied. none of them liked our gimmick which is fine, it was def a chance we took and it was hit or miss. But then all the sudden they said the gimmick ruined the sick flow to our mix and routine............. ???
overall the group as a whole came off as if they did not want to be entertained. All they wanted was simple bhangra that was executed. That was all they talked about: execution. all they wanted was execution. WE WILL WATCH OUR VIDEO PLENTY OF TIMES AND FIND ALL THE EXECUTION ERRORS. I am by no means saying execution should take a back seat to anything. if you don't execute you won't and shouldn't do well. BUT WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE?!
I left the meeting feeling like the judges didn't care about or even LOOKED for intricacies in choreo/formations for any team. I left feeling like they didn't take into account speed and actually how hard the set was to perform for any team. Why are we NOT being asked to innovate while dancing bhangra? I left the meeting feeling like the judges wanted every dancer to dance the EXACT same not only from a form standpoint which is perfectly fine, but have the SAME nakrah, SAME swag, SAME everything. When did bhangra become THIS robotic? If a dancer goes too crazy and loses form and separates themselves from the team then yes take off a point. But how is it not enjoyable to watch someone give a lil extra on different steps? Why is it wrong when someone KILLS a certain step while they are still executing the same? It is only more entertaining for viewers and it isn't taking away from the team.
I had to ask the judges what they liked about our routine. The answers were generic. It didn't seem like the judges remembered anything or wanted to remember anything except the fact that we didn't execute flawlessly.
As Faizan said in the results thread. Cleanliness should be the most important factor. I 100% agree. But it isn't the ONLY factor. Whichever comp it may be, how every many placings there are, the BEST TEAM OF THE NIGHT should win, then the 2nd best, 3rd best etc. In determining the BEST TEAM OF THE NIGHT, cleanliness/execution cannot be the ONLY factor. So tell us captains about more than just execution!
In a judges meeting, you can state that execution wasn't great, but that can't be the only thing you say. It was 5 mins of our undivided attention going to listening to what the judges had the say. What do I remember? all they talked about was execution. I don't even know if they liked the set or not as they were giving us mixed messages.
I'm not sitting here advocating that my team or any team should have placed. I didn't watch the entire show. I'm trying to suggest to the bhangra community, judges that are reading this, and those who may go into judging, that when you judge, PLEASE WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED. We teams are working hard to ENTERTAIN the audience. We are not dancing our hearts out for golf claps. We are dancing our hearts out for the crowd to be entertained and go buck.
We have no choice but to trust that you will make the decisions to the best of your abilities. So don't sit there and try find everything wrong with the performance and nothing good. This is Bhangra! You as judges love bhangra as much if not MORE than we do since you're judging! So smile during our performances. Smile when captains walk into a meeting. All captains are the primary reason bhangra is continuously spread and promoted! Be happy to give us feedback. And most importantly, appreciate whatever we did on stage. This is bhangra! I don't feel as if this happened with the blowout judges.
I know judging isn't easy. But please. Be entertained because we all love bhangra
This next part is my own opinion, not one of my team or anyone else. mine only. This is also nothing to do with Cal, UNC, or VT as the placing teams. You guys did amazing and nothing can be taken away from that. This is about the JUDGES:
The judges meeting was one of the worst, if not the worst feedback sessions I have been to. I left this one with nothing constructive to take away. To start, It seemed like one of the judges docked points for things that had nothing to do with our actual routine as he spent more time talking about things aside from our actual dancing. I had no problem with the things the judge said as they were valid, but they had nothing to do with our actual routine and it took a minute and a half of our 5 mins with the judges. It didn't seem like any of them genuinely liked our routine which is fine. Everyone has their own opinion. They didn't straight up say that to us, but we got that feeling with the way they were giving feedback and it was being implied. none of them liked our gimmick which is fine, it was def a chance we took and it was hit or miss. But then all the sudden they said the gimmick ruined the sick flow to our mix and routine............. ???
overall the group as a whole came off as if they did not want to be entertained. All they wanted was simple bhangra that was executed. That was all they talked about: execution. all they wanted was execution. WE WILL WATCH OUR VIDEO PLENTY OF TIMES AND FIND ALL THE EXECUTION ERRORS. I am by no means saying execution should take a back seat to anything. if you don't execute you won't and shouldn't do well. BUT WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE?!
I left the meeting feeling like the judges didn't care about or even LOOKED for intricacies in choreo/formations for any team. I left feeling like they didn't take into account speed and actually how hard the set was to perform for any team. Why are we NOT being asked to innovate while dancing bhangra? I left the meeting feeling like the judges wanted every dancer to dance the EXACT same not only from a form standpoint which is perfectly fine, but have the SAME nakrah, SAME swag, SAME everything. When did bhangra become THIS robotic? If a dancer goes too crazy and loses form and separates themselves from the team then yes take off a point. But how is it not enjoyable to watch someone give a lil extra on different steps? Why is it wrong when someone KILLS a certain step while they are still executing the same? It is only more entertaining for viewers and it isn't taking away from the team.
I had to ask the judges what they liked about our routine. The answers were generic. It didn't seem like the judges remembered anything or wanted to remember anything except the fact that we didn't execute flawlessly.
As Faizan said in the results thread. Cleanliness should be the most important factor. I 100% agree. But it isn't the ONLY factor. Whichever comp it may be, how every many placings there are, the BEST TEAM OF THE NIGHT should win, then the 2nd best, 3rd best etc. In determining the BEST TEAM OF THE NIGHT, cleanliness/execution cannot be the ONLY factor. So tell us captains about more than just execution!
In a judges meeting, you can state that execution wasn't great, but that can't be the only thing you say. It was 5 mins of our undivided attention going to listening to what the judges had the say. What do I remember? all they talked about was execution. I don't even know if they liked the set or not as they were giving us mixed messages.
I'm not sitting here advocating that my team or any team should have placed. I didn't watch the entire show. I'm trying to suggest to the bhangra community, judges that are reading this, and those who may go into judging, that when you judge, PLEASE WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED. We teams are working hard to ENTERTAIN the audience. We are not dancing our hearts out for golf claps. We are dancing our hearts out for the crowd to be entertained and go buck.
We have no choice but to trust that you will make the decisions to the best of your abilities. So don't sit there and try find everything wrong with the performance and nothing good. This is Bhangra! You as judges love bhangra as much if not MORE than we do since you're judging! So smile during our performances. Smile when captains walk into a meeting. All captains are the primary reason bhangra is continuously spread and promoted! Be happy to give us feedback. And most importantly, appreciate whatever we did on stage. This is bhangra! I don't feel as if this happened with the blowout judges.
I know judging isn't easy. But please. Be entertained because we all love bhangra
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