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BHANGRA IN THE BURGH 08 OFFICIAL LINE UP

Jeeti

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Sunny said:
weakkkk line-up
gimme a comp in its second year with a line up like this...and i'll bet something crazy with you..

almost every comp has had some basis of which to found on...not to call out avap specifically...but i remember back in the day...they used to have bhangra stampede...and im pretty sure some of those young heads were grown when they started avap...regardless of the example...

weak line up..hmm...week before probably the biggest competition on the east coast..given the context...i'd say its a damn strong line up.

p.s. cali...pfffffffffff ;)

love,

pittsburgh.
 

Havish

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Jeeti said:
almost every comp has had some basis of which to found on...not to call out avap specifically...but i remember back in the day...they used to have bhangra stampede...and im pretty sure some of those young heads were grown when they started avap...regardless of the example...
I'm not 100% sure what your trying to say with "young heads were grown" but AVAP has no connection to Bhangra Stampede.
 

Jeeti

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Havish said:
Jeeti said:
almost every comp has had some basis of which to found on...not to call out avap specifically...but i remember back in the day...they used to have bhangra stampede...and im pretty sure some of those young heads were grown when they started avap...regardless of the example...
I'm not 100% sure what your trying to say with "young heads were grown" but AVAP has no connection to Bhangra Stampede.
my apologies.
 

Ashqe

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weakkkk line-up
gimme a comp in its second year with a line up like this...and i'll bet something crazy with you..
Meh, I think it's a weak line-up at least if you compare it to the first year. Sure, it's only in its second year but I at least think there were better teams last year if I remember correctly. I would've liked to see some Independent teams but whatever, this is still a pretty good competition and young at that so it's all good.
 

Superman

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Sapan said:
Also, another interesting fact.

Teams with extremely strong affiliations with judges:

Cornell (2 judges)
NYU
Northwestern
hey guys just wanted to give a quick clarification as well.
No current member of cornell bhangra has ever danced with either of the judges who attended Cornell. It has been nearly six years since either has been with Cornell. Additionally, we have competed at competitions earlier where some of our Alumni were judges and no bias was shown.

Thanks

Harman Singh
 

Hans

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I think many of you are blowing things way out of proportion.

I presented a list of teams that I know with near 100% certainty have close ties to the Pittsburgh community. Of course I understand that all brown people know all brown people through at least 6 degress. In fact, most people, brown or otherwise, know most other people through at least 6 degrees of separation. I made the observation because the ties that I know of are much stronger than usual, and I thought it was relevant to a discussion of the competition between the teams. I also made it clear that my information was imperfect, and I did not make any accusations.

Several of you, in response, overreacted with CAPS LOCK!#!# and put words into my mouth. I never said any of these teams got in because of their connections. Nobody can say that unless we sat in on the committee meetings or at least knew who didn't get in. Nor did I say anything at all about their connections to the judges. If you read the post, you'll see that the only consequence I mentioned was that these teams would likely have strong crowd support.

Flash back to Boston last year. If I had said, "Interesting, BU, NU, and MIT have strong ties to Boston, they're going to have huge crowd support," would the same people have jumped on me then? I highly doubt it. In hindsight, the information would also have been pretty relevant, and not an "unnecessary rumor," since many believe that MIT placed solely because of their crowd support.

Now, I know some people will say that I implied some kind of scandal or wrongdoing by pointing out the connections. I can't be held responsible for what people choose to read into my posts, though, especially when I made my reasoning explicitly clear.

I just calmly presented a list of facts, without accusing or attacking. Several people replied to me in an overexcited and condescending tone (not everyone, though). Which one of these two sounds more like POL? I thought BTF was a place to discuss all issues of bhangra and the bhangra scene calmly and intelligently. Do we really need moderator intervention in response to posts that we think are "unnecessary," even if they're 1) based in fact and 2) presented in a way that is not at all incendiary?

P.S. Meistro, I am not on any of the competing teams, so I have no set to "be confident" in or to "bring it" with. I also included my old team, Columbia Bhangra, on the list of teams with strong ties to the Pittsburgh community. Why would I try to bring down my old team?
 

kinnell

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A few things disturbed me while reading posts in this thread. If a competition needs to be called out, then it needs to be called out. I don't like this shit about "This isn't POL" when people call out other teams and competitions. If something is shady and sketchy or if a team jacks a routine (aka JATT at Bruin 08) or if a competition committee acts in a contradictory way (aka BOB with SGPD last year), people should know and people should call them out on it so teams/competitions have an incentive NOT to do it again. My interpretation of BTF, is respect of opinions, not the "need to be happy and friendly with everything". My opinion of this site (feel free to disagree) is TO BE REAL without getting into flame wars and starting random rumours without proof.

Okay, Sweet. I got that out of my chest. Let me start out before commenting on the line-up with my bias. I am a member of Truskool Folk, a team that applied but got rejected from BITB. Now, you know there is some bias and rationale behind my arguments. In no way am I saying that the competition sucks or that we deserved to get in, I'm just putting my 2-rupees in as a bhangra affecionado.

The line-up is collegiate. All teams are legitimate. These teams have been established and been around for awhile and been to legit competitions in the past. If we saw, let's say, CMU Chakde in the line-up, I would be puzzled because despite being a promising team, they would stick out in terms of competition experience compared to some of these collegiate powerhouses.

As Hans pointed out, it's very Blowout, but that's also because it seems BITB chose only college teams. It will be a fair competition in the sense that (as dheerja pointed out in another thread), college teams normally start out with similar resources and have the make the best out of their college dancers. Also, these teams are also all co-ed? It's going to be cut-throat and similar sized teams - it's going to be a homologous competition.

One thing that I will state that I disliked is that, according to Vikash, our Truskool Folk director, when Bhangra In the Burgh notified the teams that did not make it, it was very visible on which teams applied and did not make it. The email addresses of the teams applying were placed in the To section and you can easily deduce which teams did not make it. This was unprofessional on BITB's part. I say this because I hope BITB does not do this in the future.

Since that mistake was made, you can figure out what teams did not make the cut. There were some legit teams in the application process and I hope that because they were independent or single-gendered, that did not hurt their application process.

People tend to have the tendency to read one sentence and comment about that or blame my entire rationale of thinking on our team not making into the competition. I'm being logical and fair here. This is my way of commenting on the line-up and I was surprised that certain teams were overlooked for an entire co-ed collegiate line-up. I'm sure there are a lot of factors (bad tryout videos..etc), but like Hans, I see an association, and I feel the need to express it.

BTW, a competition should strive to be the best it can and I know BITB does from the amount of time they spend on BTF and trying to make the registration process fair and all. But, just because they're a second year competition, Jeeti, shouldn't prevent us from calling them out or just "noticing" trends.

Concluding thoughts - Good line-up. Could be better. Why the homo? (-logous lineup)
 

Hans

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Jeeti said:
gimme a comp in its second year with a line up like this...and i'll bet something crazy with you..
Jeeti, I'll take that bet. Please see Boston Bhangra 2005. I don't have the full team list, but the placings were 1. TBT, 2. Tufts, 3. KJ, and I think some of the other competing teams were Sher, MBT, and Phul. You wanna do cash or PayPall?

I don't think this is a particularly weak lineup, though. It's nearly identical to Blowout last year, which was a great east coast collegiate lineup.
 

Jeeti

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Paypal.

I surrender.

Hans, Kinnel..you both have legitimate points that need to be heard.
 

Saleem

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Boston Bhangra was a unique opportunity as it picked up a lot of the talent dropped by Blast through its perceived failures. Man, old memories. But yes Jeeti you owe him lol

Not every competition is going to have entire teams flying from Cali or Vancouver, it's not that big a deal. I think it's a good lineup. A little homogeneous, as far as I can tell. Is Cornell taking its co-ed team? If not, it would be the only non-mixed team. No Toronto team?

Kinnell I agree with what you said on the email (I would like to see the list to compare!) but I'd chalk that up to technical inexpertise, no huge blemish for the competition, but something to write down for next year lol
 

sulmoney

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thank you saleem for pointing out the use of homogenous vs homologous...youre a bme major kinnell! you know the difference haha (i tease, i tease)...and throwing in my personal two cents, the lineup selected for burgh has always (and by always, i mean last year and this year) had obscenely tight pittsburgh connections, and seeing this lineup is no surprise. we did not apply (so i have no bias), but i am sure we would not have gotten in as we have no connections with the people in burgh...except good ol rohan sheth, maybe if we just put him on the roster next year...:)
-sulman "no filter on my thoughts, and if you have a problem with that, smd bitch" mirza
 

Jackie

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Meistro said:
this is such a bisexual lineup.
lol^
oh yea btw
does anyone have an obama mask lyin around?
im dyin to do an another president bhangra aftering hearing mccains sorry debate
 

Jeeti

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yo you are the president dude? man i've been trying to figure out if that person was on BTF or POL cuz I figured the chances of that were pretty high...i'd like to see you do a routine in a Palin mask...not gonna lie.

hahhaha..nicee.
 
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