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Boiler Bhangra 2016 Cancelled?

Amundeep

From the Bay Area, Attending UIUC
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Our team was notified that Boiler Bhangra this year got cancelled and it's two days before the competition. Was just wondering if people from other teams that were planning on attending got notified about this as well?
 

Yesh

Member
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Got the same notification from them, told us there were staffing shortages from the venues side, so the venue cancelled on them
 

Amundeep

From the Bay Area, Attending UIUC
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14
Apparently it had something to do with contract issues with Purdue for booking another venue
 

acashpatel

New Member
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3
Should have seen this coming when a Purdue SASA board member told us last year that paggan were optional LOLz
 

ramv88

www.dholiram.com
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It could be an april fools joke :eek: .....[SIZE=small]I know---it sounds messed up but either way the timing sucks[/SIZE]












- Dholi Ram
 

Amundeep

From the Bay Area, Attending UIUC
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Haha yeah we thought the same thing but they refunded us money so it seems legit
 

Yesh

Member
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Amundeep said:
Haha yeah we thought the same thing but they refunded us money so it seems legit

did they refund you all of it? or like part of the registration money?
 

Amundeep

From the Bay Area, Attending UIUC
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14
I think it was registration/after party tickets so far, the Purdue Sasa facebook profile posted about it
 

kman58

Active Member
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190
Definitely have a lot of sympathy for the teams that are having to pretty much readjust their whole weekends and financial plans as a result of this. As a team no amount of apologies can probably be enough to rectify this situation, even if every penny is refunded.
However I implore you if you're a member of the public or a competing team to not give this comp shit for it until all the details of what happened has been released and until they've made every effort to fix this financially as much as possible. The type of work it takes to organize a comp is tremendous and fighting back against university policies can be damn near impossible.
This situation sucks for everyone involved, mainly the teams, and I hope that some sort of conclusion can be reached. Good luck guys!
 

Basim

♥ BTF ♥
Staff member
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2 days before the competition? Wow, that blows big time. I sincerely hope that they not only refund all teams ASAP but publicly post the details of what went wrong so last minute.

Usually when you deal with a university, you're given all the information you need ahead of time (in terms of policies) and you also have a "point of contact" at the university that you can bounce things back & forth with as your event nears.

I'm saddened for all those teams who took the time to apply & coordinate their schedules around Boiler Bhangra 2016. Before jumping to random conclusions, I hope we can hear from the committee. Please share if anyone receives further details.

All the best,

~ Basim :)
 

ashvin.kapur

Member
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kman58 said:
However I implore you if you're a member of the public or a competing team to not give this comp shit for it until all the details of what happened has been released and until they've made every effort to fix this financially as much as possible. The type of work it takes to organize a comp is tremendous and fighting back against university policies can be damn near impossible.

Honestly, I disagree. If you're going to run a competition, you have an ENORMOUS responsibility. It is a crazy amount of work and organization. It is a crazy amount of dedication and communication. But when you don't deliver on that responsibility, it is every competing team's right and duty to voice their disappointment/anger/loss.


I have organized competitions before, and have done so at a university/under those university policies. I can agree with you that it's hell, and that it's damn near impossible, but I can tell you that their policies very rarely change. They're bullshit constrictive policies that have existed for 10+ years. It is an organizers responsibility to make sure that they can navigate these policies WELL BEFORE A DAY BEFORE THE COMPETITION WEEKEND. That analysis needs to happen before even sending out the first application packet. Whatever "conclusion" at this point is worthless to every dancer that didn't get to compete; for many dancers, for what would have been their last competition. There will be explanations that "It was out of our hands" and "We did everything we could" but a) it doesn't change anything, b) it's just an excuse, c) you failed on your responsibility as a committee.


So in other words, I implore everyone to bitch away.
 

Nimit

Active Member
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Honestly I felt uncertain about this competition since our first bit of email correspondence. There was hardly any marketing on BTF or on social media. After we received word we got in, I didn't hear anything about registration or anything after that unless I asked for it. I didn't know (and still don't know) who the judges were going to be or what the rubric looked like. There was absolutely no marketing for this competition and so I feel like the crowd would've been just the teams competing lol. I guess it sucks that the venue cancelled on them, but considering the lack of communication and organization, I can't say I was overly surprised when I got the call. As a team we decided to go to Boiler over a variety of other competitions that we got into and I hope that Boiler gets it together in the future. A really huge disappointment on their part.
 

kman58

Active Member
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ashvin.kapur said:
Honestly, I disagree. If you're going to run a competition, you have an ENORMOUS responsibility. It is a crazy amount of work and organization. It is a crazy amount of dedication and communication. But when you don't deliver on that responsibility, it is every competing team's right and duty to voice their disappointment/anger/loss.

It is an organizers responsibility to make sure that they can navigate these policies WELL BEFORE A DAY BEFORE THE COMPETITION WEEKEND. That analysis needs to happen before even sending out the first application packet. Whatever "conclusion" at this point is worthless to every dancer that didn't get to compete; for many dancers, for what would have been their last competition. There will be explanations that "It was out of our hands" and "We did everything we could" but a) it doesn't change anything, b) it's just an excuse, c) you failed on your responsibility as a committee.

So in other words, I implore everyone to bitch away.
I agree, it is a huge responsibility, as someone who just organized/ran one and is going into the second year of it. I can't imagine how much better my first year would've gone had I been more in tune with university and venue policies. Regardless of whether you want to shit talk the comp/organizers/venue or not, I hope boiler can come forward with some concrete answers, and more importantly, concrete solutions to this (especially financial solutions).
 

Reeeeda

Member
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Yikes... my first immediate thought: were some teams flying in for this?? If so, I hope Boiler is working on a plan to compensate those teams for the financial commitment they made to attend, regardless of how out of their hands it was for the show to be canceled.


That really really sucks... really feel for the teams and all the wasted excitement, personal finances and preparations that they must have invested into competing here.
 

aasrani09

New Member
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We were extremely disappointed with the way the Boiler committee handled this situation. It is absolutely the committee's responsibility to ensure that all the venue preparations are sorted out well in advance of comp weekend. It is unprofessional and inconsiderate to expect teams to commit to a competition, purchase flights from all over the country, arrange for transportation from the airport and hotel reservation and put countless hours into practicing when the committee itself is unable to deliver on their end of the deal. Notifying teams less than 24 hours before we were planning to fly out and then giving different excuses to different teams as to why the competition is cancelled is unacceptable. This was my team's last competition of the semester and many of the kids had been looking forward to it. Some of our parents were planning to drive to Purdue to support us. Our team and all other teams lost time, money, and the chance to compete because of the Boiler's committee's inability to recover from a situation that was completely avoidable in the first place.


I can imagine that the committee also lost a lot of time and money from this incident, and I truly hope that in the future, Boiler Bhangra Competition can recover from this and still go on to be a great comp. For now, however, several teams have lost trust in Boiler because of the way they handled this situation, and it will definitely take time for Boiler to repair its reputation.
 

acashpatel

New Member
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This is absolutely unacceptable. We have said no to 3 other completions because we decided to go to Boiler. We had members on our team who were gonna perform for the first time in their LIFE for this competition. They put in unbelievable amount of time and effort and it's so heartbreaking to not be able to see them perform anymore. We are fortunate enough to have another competition still left for the year but I know there are a number of teams that don't and they were hoping this would be their last great performance of the year where they gave it their all.

The boiler committee should make sure they do everything in their power to reimburse all the teams for application fees, registration fees, after party tickets, and if possible any other fees such as hotel cancelation fees and travel fees. Giving a reason such as "we spent it all" or "we don't have any left" will not do any justice. If there honestly is no money left they should explain exactly why and where it was all spent. If they fail to do so, I'm afraid Boiler Bhangra will not be a competition for the next few years. With the way the committee has communicated with us through the beginning of the application process to now, we would not apply for Boiler Bhangra next year. I understand the boiler committee has a lot on their hands at the moment but if they want to keep their credibility and hope to keep this comp running in the future they have a lot of explaining to do.
 

sartajjudge

New Member
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Damn maybe there are new people running this comp because I competed here the first year it happened (in 2013) and had a great time and thought for the most part everything went well.
 
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