Elite 8 predictions

[Jessica]

This is a tough one.

 

[jvirk]

all about who works the hardest - its not a normal comp where you do your normal work ethic

based on work ethic from what i HEAR...and about attitude towards this comp - id say sgpd takes it

 

[KushK]

isn't this kind of how they judged that coke comp in india last summer? it seemed like peers were involved in the judging, providing comments and whatnot...

Yes, I think it was the same way that one on mh1 was judged!

I was told by some of the organizers that the judging sheets will be up on BTF the next couple of days after the competition...so that's good for transparency.

I love the one winner idea but that's going to be so haaaard, what if there's a tie?!

Well if there is a tie then I think that each team should send its 4 best dancer on stage to compete in a 2 minute dance off against the other team on a song of the judges choice. To me that would be awesome, but I doubt that would happen because I think there will be a winner in this one.

OOO soo down, that would be interesting haha

 

[KushK]

BUMP BUMP ;D 8) :

 

[Vick]

I think letting the teams judge one another is a major mistake. If I danced for Empire, I would be pissed with this style of judging. I'm pretty sure the rubric is already set up to make sure that Empire does not place... Now you let your competitors have a vote, and we all know that Empire is the most despised bhangra team in the circuit, and it's a double whammy for them. Yea we all trust our peers to do the right thing, but the "right" thing never really materializes... In a competition of this calibur, I don't think its a good idea to "experiment"... Leave that for the loser competitions to refine and then pick up on it later on...The last thing I want to see is VCU losing to SGPD or Empire beating NJ by a miniscule margin that was determined by a vote from some of the teams competitors... That will be utter chaos and will ruin a night meant for the ages... If I were the Elite committee, I would change it up right now, this has catastrophe written all over it...

 

[Laddi]

<3 NACHDI JAWANI <3

 

[Kaur]

I love that fact that all scoresheets will be posted on BTF after the competition. Its never been done before but its a awsome idea... Meaning that all the judges have to back up exactly why they gave the score they did etc.. Hopefully ppl dont take it personally and it causes team rivalries but at least no one will attach the competition, and can question the judges instead.

 

[jvirk]

teams judging each other - or even having a say - STUPID STUPID STUPID

i hope this doesnt bite them in the ass, but i have a gut feeling its going to

dont doing something stupid and "experiment" on a competition at this calibur - like vick said

CHANGE IT

 

[nb0913]

With the amount of people coming to this competition, and the teams flying from all over, this isn't the right place to "experiment" fun new things. Have 5 or 6 judges who know what they're doing and keep it simple. All the hype thats been built up for this competition could easily go to waste if the winner is determined by something stupid like everyone voting for each other. It'll truly be a waste of all the effort thats gone into planning this competition and the advertisement that they've done. It'll also turn off teams for next year (assuming this becomes an annual thing), if they know that judging is going to done this way. Judging is always controversial at competitions, but this would just be taking it a step too far.

Just my opinion though lol

 

[Laddi]

teams judging each other - or even having a say - STUPID STUPID STUPID

Agree!

but then again, with this comp., I think theres gonna be drama either way. Each team has a fan base and with only one placing, the others are gonna think its rigged and unfair and bla bla...im looking forward to the performances more than who places! :

 

[mafzal]

SGPD

 

[Saleem]

Re: Judging, Well put, Nikhil B. I agree with you.

This will be a ridiculous competition. I think we'll also have a roll-call thread a week before just to find out who all is coming

PS Duniya Allstars is getting no love in this poll lol cmon where are the Duniya fans?

 

[Gurpal]

I think letting the teams judge one another is a major mistake. If I danced for Empire, I would be pissed with this style of judging. I'm pretty sure the rubric is already set up to make sure that Empire does not place... Now you let your competitors have a vote, and we all know that Empire is the most despised bhangra team in the circuit, and it's a double whammy for them. Yea we all trust our peers to do the right thing, but the "right" thing never really materializes... In a competition of this calibur, I don't think its a good idea to "experiment"... Leave that for the loser competitions to refine and then pick up on it later on...The last thing I want to see is VCU losing to SGPD or Empire beating NJ by a miniscule margin that was determined by a vote from some of the teams competitors... That will be utter chaos and will ruin a night meant for the ages... If I were the Elite committee, I would change it up right now, this has catastrophe written all over it...

i personally do think this comp is for empire as well. i wuldnt see why elite 8 wuld invite them if they cannot meet the comp criteria.

 

[mrchicity]

I actually think this might be a good idea. Judging at competitions is always called into question, and depending on who's judging, past affiliations or even distance from what is current in the bhangra scene (meaning a judge may not be completely up to date with everything) are sometimes blamed for perceived errors in placings. In my opinion, who better to judge teams than people actively involved with the circuit right now. This is especially true for the teams at this competition, who are already widely recognized as the elite. It can be assumed that most of them are already familiar with what is necessary for a good or great performance and are quite skilled and knowledgeable about technical aspects, such as traditionality, execution and such. As for bias, I heard that they'll be tossing out the highest and lowest scores from team judges to help eliminate bias, and if it's true that scoresheets will be made available, then there's even less reason for prejudice against certain teams. I'm pretty sure that this would only work at this kind of competition though, these are elite teams for a good reason. I know I wouldn't want members of some new, unproven team judging at any sort of competition.

 

[sb123]

teams judging each other - or even having a say - STUPID STUPID STUPID

im looking forward to the performances more than who places! :

definitely

 

[Tuckerrrr]

If I danced for Empire, I would be pissed with this style of judging. I'm pretty sure the rubric is already set up to make sure that Empire does not place... Now you let your competitors have a vote, and we all know that Empire is the most despised bhangra team in the circuit, and it's a double whammy for them.

To look at it a different way...if there were real Bhangra judges (as in people who have danced and studied folk Bhangra), Empire wouldn't place because they don't execute traditional Bhangra in their routines. This method actually gives Empire and any other gimmick/formation-dependent teams a chance.

 

[Nikhil]

I actually think this might be a good idea. Judging at competitions is always called into question, and depending on who's judging, past affiliations or even distance from what is current in the bhangra scene (meaning a judge may not be completely up to date with everything) are sometimes blamed for perceived errors in placings. In my opinion, who better to judge teams than people actively involved with the circuit right now. This is especially true for the teams at this competition, who are already widely recognized as the elite. It can be assumed that most of them are already familiar with what is necessary for a good or great performance and are quite skilled and knowledgeable about technical aspects, such as traditionality, execution and such. As for bias, I heard that they'll be tossing out the highest and lowest scores from team judges to help eliminate bias, and if it's true that scoresheets will be made available, then there's even less reason for prejudice against certain teams. I'm pretty sure that this would only work at this kind of competition though, these are elite teams for a good reason. I know I wouldn't want members of some new, unproven team judging at any sort of competition.

+1 Thank you for reiterating my point:

I trust my peers regardless of what the speculated rivalries may be. Respect is given when you have proven winners in 1 competition, so everyone knows everyone is capable. This is not a modern comp nor is it a traditional one. This is a competition to see who is the best among the most successful teams in the circuit, and having us evaluate each other is the essence of equality and fairness. Again, I trust everyone and every other team does as well, otherwise you would see a change in the line up NOW.

It's not going to happen, all teams are committed and it's an excellent idea. Teams always fuel the fire about judging being a problem, now we can be the solution. If we can't we have ourselves to blame. Teams are gonna bring it without worrying who says what. Let your set do the talking.

 

[DjDhol-E]

teams judging each other - or even having a say - STUPID STUPID STUPID

i think some competitions in india work like that? like at the end of a performance the captains of the competing teams rate the performance or speak about there thoughts on the performance.
look at 7:00 in the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDgrKo5GO2U

 

[ameetkhabra]

This one will definitely be a very tough decision. I get chills down my spine every time I think about E8, but I've got to say that the SGpd boys are gonna take this ( L )

 

[Temurzai]

not that im hoping for this, but its gona be interesting if someone loses a pagg or chunni and has a DIRTY set regardless.

edit: why is there a cougarlife.com advert on my btf hah