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Rocky

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everybody knows nj or sgpd was suppose to get first in this comp...f the judging scores because performance wise they were both sick way better than VCU..just my opinion and pretty sure others agree with me
 

ENVY BANG-RUH

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Rocky said:
everybody knows nj or sgpd was suppose to get first in this comp...f the judging scores because performance wise they were both sick way better than VCU..just my opinion and pretty sure others agree with me
E8 is over and done with, VCU was the winner and will remain the winner. No point in bickering. Like Badwal said in a post earlier, "There's no perfect judge, and no perfect competition". The comp is over and done with, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!
 

sonali

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ENVY BANG-RUH said:
Rocky said:
everybody knows nj or sgpd was suppose to get first in this comp...f the judging scores because performance wise they were both sick way better than VCU..just my opinion and pretty sure others agree with me
E8 is over and done with, VCU was the winner and will remain the winner. No point in bickering. Like Badwal said in a post earlier, "There's no perfect judge, and no perfect competition". The comp is over and done with, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!
+1
 

Vijay

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i have a question for some of u that were at the show...i've read over and over again that NJ's routine "will change the face of bhangra" or something along those lines over and over...now i agree that their vibc set did indeed do that do some degree, but im not sure what they did in their elite set that will/could do this. i've seen most of the vids by now, and the only thing that they did that was so different was the amazing formations/creativity of them..not trying to knock on their performance cuz it looks amazing, but what will future teams emulate from this? formations? formations are constantly being updated/changed/created, and NJ basically took this to another level. what u guys think? i think i need to see gtv versions of the teams to even do them 5% justice compared to the actual performances
 

Vick

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Vijay said:
i have a question for some of u that were at the show...i've read over and over again that NJ's routine "will change the face of bhangra" or something along those lines over and over...now i agree that their vibc set did indeed do that do some degree, but im not sure what they did in their elite set that will/could do this. i've seen most of the vids by now, and the only thing that they did that was so different was the amazing formations/creativity of them..not trying to knock on their performance cuz it looks amazing, but what will future teams emulate from this? formations? formations are constantly being updated/changed/created, and NJ basically took this to another level. what u guys think? i think i need to see gtv versions of the teams to even do them 5% justice compared to the actual performances
Their routine won't revolutionize anything... The people that are saying that are delusional and on some Toronto crack... I was at the show, it was an awesome routine, but it was by no means "revolutionizing"... I didn't see anything in there that I haven't seen before in one form or another other than that "dandiya" segment which I thought was kinda stupid... They put on a great show, but it was far from revolutionizing anything...
 

kinnell

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Why did people jizz in their pants when they saw NJ formations? Because they had never seen formations like that. Why hadn't they seen formations like that? Because NJ went 16 man. (This also applies to the Beautiful Men of Punjab)


Let me establish a few facts:

1. The circuit is heavily saturated with 8-man all guy teams and 12-man co-ed teams with the occasional 12 man all-guy team. We see 16-man co-ed teams here and there with 8-man co-ed teams, 10-man all-guy teams and whatever else.
2. It's easier to get more creative and do more intricate formations with an X-numbered all-guy team than an X-numbered co-ed team assuming both are rangla by jodis. And I'm not talking VCU or Cornell where there exists only 3 colors (and you can switch jodis between guys/girls, saying that hypothetically of course). The reason is because the presence of two genders with each guy/girl pair having an unique color (like Northeastern Bhangra) limits the freedom more than an all guy team.
3. Unique and new formations always leave an impact. If the audience is use to seeing 12 man teams and 8 man teams, then the normal formations those teams may do will become boring. However, if a freak 13 man team comes along, the normal and creative formation mechanisms will keep the audience on their feet.


16-man all-guys has not been done in recent years. Even NJ/sGPD's simple formations were eye-candy. Both teams also executed some complex formation mechanisms (as most top teams tend to do these days) but the lack of other 16-man all guy teams in the circuit gave them an edge in impressing the audience. I think you guys get the jist. ;)


Do I think NJ is going to revolutionize anything? No. Revolution is a strong word. Teams may continue to think outside the box for choreography. NJ's appeal was complex choreography that was very coordinated for its level of difficulty. You saw the multiple jumps, spins, squats, khunde throws, gimmick effects in a row yet they maintained coordination. Very few teams will be able to handle the choreography at NJ's level and it may not be worth it because even NJ made mistakes. And as one of the VCU dancers pointed out, "clean wins the game".
 

Vick

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kinnell said:
Do I think NJ is going to revolutionize anything? No. Revolution is a strong word. Teams may continue to think outside the box for choreography. NJ's appeal was complex choreography that was very coordinated for its level of difficulty. You saw the multiple jumps, spins, squats, khunde throws, gimmick effects in a row yet they maintained coordination. Very few teams will be able to handle the choreography at NJ's level and it may not be worth it because even NJ made mistakes. And as one of the VCU dancers pointed out, "clean wins the game".
Well said Kinnell...
 

man_bhangra

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kinnell said:
Why did people jizz in their pants when they saw NJ formations? Because they had never seen formations like that. Why hadn't they seen formations like that? Because NJ went 16 man. (This also applies to the Beautiful Men of Punjab)


Let me establish a few facts:

1. The circuit is heavily saturated with 8-man all guy teams and 12-man co-ed teams with the occasional 12 man all-guy team. We see 16-man co-ed teams here and there with 8-man co-ed teams, 10-man all-guy teams and whatever else.
2. It's easier to get more creative and do more intricate formations with an X-numbered all-guy team than an X-numbered co-ed team assuming both are rangla by jodis. And I'm not talking VCU or Cornell where there exists only 3 colors (and you can switch jodis between guys/girls, saying that hypothetically of course). The reason is because the presence of two genders with each guy/girl pair having an unique color (like Northeastern Bhangra) limits the freedom more than an all guy team.
3. Unique and new formations always leave an impact. If the audience is use to seeing 12 man teams and 8 man teams, then the normal formations those teams may do will become boring. However, if a freak 13 man team comes along, the normal and creative formation mechanisms will keep the audience on their feet.


16-man all-guys has not been done in recent years. Even NJ/sGPD's simple formations were eye-candy. Both teams also executed some complex formation mechanisms (as most top teams tend to do these days) but the lack of other 16-man all guy teams in the circuit gave them an edge in impressing the audience. I think you guys get the jist. ;)


Do I think NJ is going to revolutionize anything? No. Revolution is a strong word. Teams may continue to think outside the box for choreography. NJ's appeal was complex choreography that was very coordinated for its level of difficulty. You saw the multiple jumps, spins, squats, khunde throws, gimmick effects in a row yet they maintained coordination. Very few teams will be able to handle the choreography at NJ's level and it may not be worth it because even NJ made mistakes. And as one of the VCU dancers pointed out, "clean wins the game".
i couldnt have said it better myself
 

rsingh90

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kinnell said:
Why did people jizz in their pants when they saw NJ formations? Because they had never seen formations like that. Why hadn't they seen formations like that? Because NJ went 16 man. (This also applies to the Beautiful Men of Punjab)


Let me establish a few facts:

1. The circuit is heavily saturated with 8-man all guy teams and 12-man co-ed teams with the occasional 12 man all-guy team. We see 16-man co-ed teams here and there with 8-man co-ed teams, 10-man all-guy teams and whatever else.
2. It's easier to get more creative and do more intricate formations with an X-numbered all-guy team than an X-numbered co-ed team assuming both are rangla by jodis. And I'm not talking VCU or Cornell where there exists only 3 colors (and you can switch jodis between guys/girls, saying that hypothetically of course). The reason is because the presence of two genders with each guy/girl pair having an unique color (like Northeastern Bhangra) limits the freedom more than an all guy team.
3. Unique and new formations always leave an impact. If the audience is use to seeing 12 man teams and 8 man teams, then the normal formations those teams may do will become boring. However, if a freak 13 man team comes along, the normal and creative formation mechanisms will keep the audience on their feet.


16-man all-guys has not been done in recent years. Even NJ/sGPD's simple formations were eye-candy. Both teams also executed some complex formation mechanisms (as most top teams tend to do these days) but the lack of other 16-man all guy teams in the circuit gave them an edge in impressing the audience. I think you guys get the jist. ;)


Do I think NJ is going to revolutionize anything? No. Revolution is a strong word. Teams may continue to think outside the box for choreography. NJ's appeal was complex choreography that was very coordinated for its level of difficulty. You saw the multiple jumps, spins, squats, khunde throws, gimmick effects in a row yet they maintained coordination. Very few teams will be able to handle the choreography at NJ's level and it may not be worth it because even NJ made mistakes. And as one of the VCU dancers pointed out, "clean wins the game".
+1 well said bro, well said

any1 know if the gtv vids are gonna be up soon??
 

G. Sidhu

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Actually NJ in fact did revolutionize looking at their past performances...
-first one to do 12 man routine wid folk element, first one to do khunda swing, n im sure first ones to do alot of stuff i cnt think of ...
 

soorma23

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Both Toronto teams screwed themselves over...they probably scored eachother the lowest because of their intense rivalry and hence we see VCU on the top of the podium. The dandiya thing was not at all stupid eventho it is a bhangra comp. the dandiya segment just allowed for NJ to highlight that they reallie can do ANYTHING and very well coordinated at that...u can give these guys a hiphop set nexxtime and see what happens!....lol. There will always be a very fine line between degree of difficulty and syncronization/cleanliness and as much as it was entertaining for the fans to watch NJ and SGPD...they aint judging and determining that line!...Although the fans might as welll vote since ur scoring system was sooooo controversial...letting competing teams score eachother?!!?!?!?!?...whoever thought of that should've ran it by someone...lol

Both NJ and SGPD performances kept me at the edge of the seat cuz it was quick and mesmerizing!...job welldone
 

Tuckerrrr

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G. Sidhu said:
Actually NJ in fact did revolutionize looking at their past performances...
-first one to do 12 man routine wid folk element, first one to do khunda swing, n im sure first ones to do alot of stuff i cnt think of ...
first to do the slow lean
 

equium

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first one to do 12 man routine wid folk element, first one to do khunda swing, n im sure first ones to do alot of stuff i cnt think of ...
Not the first to do a khunda swing I'm afraid. An English team did it in the UK competition quite recently where the guys with the sap jump over and under as the guy with the khunda swings round underneath and the over the top of them. Think it was the Birmingham team that did it - saw it on youtube.

NJ's routine was another level without a doubt though, an inspiration to other teams.
 

yraparla

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equium said:
first one to do 12 man routine wid folk element, first one to do khunda swing, n im sure first ones to do alot of stuff i cnt think of ...
Not the first to do a khunda swing I'm afraid. An English team did it in the UK competition quite recently where the guys with the sap jump over and under as the guy with the khunda swings round underneath and the over the top of them. Think it was the Birmingham team that did it - saw it on youtube.

NJ's routine was another level without a doubt though, an inspiration to other teams.
I'm not sure how much you watch bhangra videos but it's a pretty common piece of choreo and it's been around for at least 2-3 years, so no this UK team was not the first to do it i'm afraid. I'm not sure that NJ was the first to do it either but I know they did it at least 1.5-2 years ago so they were "quick with it" so to speak

also out of curiosity, are you on this Birmingham team? do you know them?
 

equium

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I'm not sure how much you watch bhangra videos but it's a pretty common piece of choreo and it's been around for at least 2-3 years, so no this UK team was not the first to do it i'm afraid. I'm not sure that NJ was the first to do it either but I know they did it at least 1.5-2 years ago so they were "quick with it" so to speak
Hey

I'm from Nottingham Trent University. Apologies for my ignorance, it's just that they were the first team I saw (so completely a personal thing) to do a 'khunda spin' of any sort.

Like I've mentioned in a previous post, UK bhangra has a long way to go before it reaches complete origninality and US/Canadian standard.
 

yraparla

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equium said:
I'm not sure how much you watch bhangra videos but it's a pretty common piece of choreo and it's been around for at least 2-3 years, so no this UK team was not the first to do it i'm afraid. I'm not sure that NJ was the first to do it either but I know they did it at least 1.5-2 years ago so they were "quick with it" so to speak
Hey

I'm from Nottingham Trent University. Apologies for my ignorance, it's just that they were the first team I saw (so completely a personal thing) to do a 'khunda spin' of any sort.

Like I've mentioned in a previous post, UK bhangra has a long way to go before it reaches complete origninality and US/Canadian standard.
Hey no problem at all, welcome to the site! be sure to introduce yourself here: http://bhangrateamsforum.com/discuss/index.php/topic,183.280.html

you should be the person to revolutionize the UK!
 

faysal

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I think you'll find that leicester/dmu did the khunda swing with someone jumping over it last year at showdown before birmingham and at around practically the same time as nachdi did it at masti 3 since they were both at the end of jan :)
 

Jabar Jung

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faysal said:
I think you'll find that leicester/dmu did the khunda swing with someone jumping over it last year at showdown before birmingham and at around practically the same time as nachdi did it at masti 3 since they were both at the end of jan :)
NJ did the khunda swing at Bulldog bhangra 2007 for the first time live.
 

vsmukkar

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Jabar Jung said:
faysal said:
I think you'll find that leicester/dmu did the khunda swing with someone jumping over it last year at showdown before birmingham and at around practically the same time as nachdi did it at masti 3 since they were both at the end of jan :)
NJ did the khunda swing at Bulldog bhangra 2007 for the first time live.

I think he was talking about when they swing it and someone jumps over it....but if its the regular swing ur talking about then it was at jawani 2007 the first time, not bulldog
 
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