HELP!!Effed up my bass side!

[ADholiCalledAli]

Hey, so yesterday I was tightening my dhagga side (basically I went round my dhol pulling the ropes to get rid I the slack in the rope while the rings weren't tightening it) and afterwards i tried it out and used the rings to tighten it like normal and it sounded like shit! All the bellow had gone out of it and it didn't sound like a typical bass side. It was flat, was the wrong pitch even after smacking it with my palm Also I saw there was a very small rip on the skin about 1cm on the part where the skin touches the rim of the wood. The other day I left it in the sun and moisturised it with mustard oil. What can I do to fix it?! Really strange sounding, but any help to make it sound normal again would be appreciated BIG!

 

[ADholiCalledAli]

Re: Effed up my bass side! Help!

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[ADholiCalledAli]

so basically, i was just playing a laggi now and i effing ripped it. so yeah just gonna throw the skin away.. can any one give me the webstie to buy a new one now?

 

[monisingh]

no offense to other dholis but the one thing I hate is smacking the skin to lower the pitch. your hand is heavy with the force of your arm and and it doesn`t bounce off the skin unless you loosen your arm. when tightening to loosen it down a little just hit it with the dagga stick and it`ll go down to the pitch the skin will be at with that tension. I personally want to get the most out of my bass skins, don`t care what any btf ustads have to say but smacking it with your hand is stupid and degrading the skin. now im pretty sure you just didn`t tune the bass properly and just pulled the rings and gave it a go without properly tuning the bass side. online...nowhere they`re all garbage dude, it sucks but its probably your only option depending on where you live.

 

[ADholiCalledAli]

In gonna order from jas musicals as their quality is good. Can anybody tell me how you correctly CROSS rope it and ltune it like Yo Yo Moni Singh said. Also before roping the bass, do we wet it because wetting leather degrades it (read upon it)

 

[Dholi harsh]

whenever i rope my drum or even re tighten my drum i always soak my head in warm water for 20ish minutes (if you're just tightening the rope then i take hot water and i pour it on top of the skin and rub it in every 3-4 minutes to keep it moist and warm throughout for at least 10-15 minutes. When you wet the skin it allows you to stretch the skin properly and achieve the deep sound you're looking for from your drum. If you try tightening a dry skin... the skin side will sound high pitched (just like the problem you had). When and if you have this problem you can also fix it by wetting it again with warm water (while the rings or whatever is the least tense possible) and then waiting for it to dry up a little bit. Makes ure while its wet with water you rub the skin with a decent amount of pressure so that the skin loosens up and stretches. If it still doesn't work then take moisturizing lotion and/or mustard oil and rub that stuff in. because the oil and lotion is heavier than the water, it helps get the pitch you're looking for quicker than regular water does.


When you cross rope you start at the first hole just like any other roping method and you go down and you skip the nut/bolt that you would usually go to and go to the next one. Do the same with the holes on the skin. Go through one hole on the skin, go through nut/bolt, go through skin and then nut/bolt again and it should look like you're skipping one each time. When you keep going that way you will eventually end up overlapping and thats how you cross rope it.


As far as smacking the skin goes... A dhaga skin, if used properly and not abused and kept and stored properly, lasts a really long time. Having that said, you smacking the skin may or may not take away some life from it but the results you see from applying that sort of pressure to the center of the skin to tune the drum lower do not compare to just smacking the skin with the stick. When you try getting the skin to be a certain pitch that you want it to be, the dhaga only helps so much, the smack actually stretches the skin a little at a time, which in the end gives a lower pitch than a normal dhaga strike would.


Last thing i promise. if you have tiny rips, make sure you put a small piece of tape on the area so it doesn't rip more (don't cheap out and buy tape from the dollar day.... get proper gorilla tape or really good quality duct tape to cover it up or it won't work right)

 

[ADholiCalledAli]

Thanks bro, I got my jas skin dhagga yesterday and roped it, made sure I wetted it as well lol.. Sounds sick but it's got a bit of vibration after the strike, am I right in thinking that putting a bit of duct tape on the side will stop this problem?

 

[monisingh]

whenever i rope my drum or even re tighten my drum i always soak my head in warm water for 20ish minutes (if you're just tightening the rope then i take hot water and i pour it on top of the skin and rub it in every 3-4 minutes to keep it moist and warm throughout for at least 10-15 minutes. When you wet the skin it allows you to stretch the skin properly and achieve the deep sound you're looking for from your drum. If you try tightening a dry skin... the skin side will sound high pitched (just like the problem you had). When and if you have this problem you can also fix it by wetting it again with warm water (while the rings or whatever is the least tense possible) and then waiting for it to dry up a little bit. Makes ure while its wet with water you rub the skin with a decent amount of pressure so that the skin loosens up and stretches. If it still doesn't work then take moisturizing lotion and/or mustard oil and rub that stuff in. because the oil and lotion is heavier than the water, it helps get the pitch you're looking for quicker than regular water does.


When you cross rope you start at the first hole just like any other roping method and you go down and you skip the nut/bolt that you would usually go to and go to the next one. Do the same with the holes on the skin. Go through one hole on the skin, go through nut/bolt, go through skin and then nut/bolt again and it should look like you're skipping one each time. When you keep going that way you will eventually end up overlapping and thats how you cross rope it.


As far as smacking the skin goes... A dhaga skin, if used properly and not abused and kept and stored properly, lasts a really long time. Having that said, you smacking the skin may or may not take away some life from it but the results you see from applying that sort of pressure to the center of the skin to tune the drum lower do not compare to just smacking the skin with the stick. When you try getting the skin to be a certain pitch that you want it to be, the dhaga only helps so much, the smack actually stretches the skin a little at a time, which in the end gives a lower pitch than a normal dhaga strike would.


Last thing i promise. if you have tiny rips, make sure you put a small piece of tape on the area so it doesn't rip more (don't cheap out and buy tape from the dollar day.... get proper gorilla tape or really good quality duct tape to cover it up or it won't work right)

still disagree with it lol if you need to get it to a certain pitch hit the dagga with the stick and make tightening adjustments with the rings from there but meh its my opinion everyone is entitled to their own