How do judges in punjab judge?

[J Wong]

Points? Debate?

 

[sikhunit34]

well Ive been to Punjab many times over the years and have seen many events. From what I know, they judge on the nakhra of the team and the energy level. Also the "sync-ness" of the group. They judge the jungi differently though, I don't know how about that though. Most points are awarded from jhumar

 

[J Wong]

Yeah, because from what I have noticed they typically choose, in my opinion, the best live performance of the bunch fairly consistency and I was thinking maybe we could apply some of those practices here to have a little more consistency in judging.

 

[Sue Sylvester]

Yeah, because from what I have noticed they typically choose, in my opinion, the best live performance of the bunch fairly consistency and I was thinking maybe we could apply some of those practices here to have a little more consistency in judging.

The consistency you're seeing is not a result of some clandestine enlightened judging method or some top secret everyday household food that makes judges super capable.

It's a result of the routines being relatively so much more similar to each other than routines you'll see at music competitions here in North America and thus being easier to judge. I'm not saying it's easy, but it is significantly easier to judge how a team performs when what they are performing is significantly more similar to their competition, in this case, live sets with 8 guys performing a formula with no gimmicks/outside the box creativity with a greater emphasis on performance rather than choreography. (I love live bhangra, but it is what it is.) Without these gimmicks, the judging results would sit better with the audience as well since gimmicks can be interpreted/enjoyed differently and the homogeneity of these performances results in the "consistency" you are seeing.

There's nothing more to it.

 

[J Wong]

Yeah, because from what I have noticed they typically choose, in my opinion, the best live performance of the bunch fairly consistency and I was thinking maybe we could apply some of those practices here to have a little more consistency in judging.

The consistency you're seeing is not a result of some clandestine enlightened judging method or some top secret everyday household food that makes judges super capable.

It's a result of the routines being relatively so much more similar to each other than routines you'll see at music competitions here in North America and thus being easier to judge. I'm not saying it's easy, but it is significantly easier to judge how a team performs when what they are performing is significantly more similar to their competition, in this case, live sets with 8 guys performing a formula with no gimmicks/outside the box creativity with a greater emphasis on performance rather than choreography. (I love live bhangra, but it is what it is.) Without these gimmicks, the judging results would sit better with the audience as well since gimmicks can be interpreted/enjoyed differently and the homogeneity of these performances results in the "consistency" you are seeing.

There's nothing more to it.

That is true, similarity between sets creates fewer criterion to judge on. What I was getting at though was if they simply sit and talk about what they liked as opposed to points, maybe a competition here could try no points and simply deliberation.

 

[Basim]

My thoughts are in line with Sue...


Judges in NA are also often forced into judging across multiple categories - live, music, all male/coed/all female teams, and sometimes a combination set (live & music).


That's an incredibly hard feat for any individual - the judges here need to have a very diverse knowledge base, be relatively "open minded" (which is a lot easier to claim, but could be difficult to carry out in reality when tough decisions are needed), and be impartial.


I can't see any "folk" judge from India come to a competition to NA and have all the qualities that I mentioned above.


~ Basim

 

[amancheema]

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[J Wong]

So what are your thoughts on a no points model? Judging on what they as a whole liked.