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How to Tie a Side Turla Pagh (female perspective!)

Lilly Singh

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There's a lot of talk about costumes/paghan, etc going on so I thought I would also post a video. It doesn't compare to the amazing front turla video that was recently posted but I tried =)

I noticed that there aren't many tutorial videos that are slow and informative so I decided to slow this one down quite a bit. Being a girl on NTP, over the years I've stepped up in the pagh-tying department! However I've added a few of my own female tricks to help the process along. If you have any tips for me on how to improve I would greatly appreciate your feedback!

Hope this helps!
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How to Tie a Side Turla Bhangra Pagh (Turban)
 

Yankee Saini

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Are those "paggan's" on the floor? ??? if so that's hella 'effed up!!! :eek:

jeh pagg di izzat e nahi karni, tan bannan da ki faida, beeba ??? . . . anyone can be a legit pagg tier, but if there's no respect involved, then "laahnat" aa ohde teh :-X

p.s. you're good but can get better if you . . . :)
 

baljot

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Yankee Saini said:
Are those "paggan's" on the floor? ??? if so that's hella 'effed up!!! :eek:
yeah make sure ur pagh is not dragging ur pagh along on the floor because thats disrespectful..
but other than that...that pagh looks awesome! and i wanna see a tutorial of a front turla pagh! all tha videos i have seen dont show tha angels u need to see and dont explain everything u need to do!
 

Lilly Singh

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Yankee Saini said:
Are those "paggan's" on the floor? ??? if so that's hella 'effed up!!! :eek:

jeh pagg di izzat e nahi karni, tan bannan da ki faida, beeba ??? . . . anyone can be a legit pagg tier, but if there's no respect involved, then "laahnat" aa ohde teh :-X

p.s. you're good but can get better if you . . . :)
+1 ... they are chadars =) ..one is my sisters indian brown chadar...and one is a pink chadra...but good eye! I'm very big on that kind of stuff too.

And yes I will post a video of a front turla very soon!

Glad it helps.
 

Yankee Saini

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Lilly Singh said:
Yankee Saini said:
Are those "paggan's" on the floor? ??? if so that's hella 'effed up!!! :eek:
jeh pagg di izzat e nahi karni, tan bannan da ki faida, beeba ??? . . . anyone can be a legit pagg tier, but if there's no respect involved, then "laahnat" aa ohde teh :-X
p.s. you're good but can get better if you . . . :)
+1 ... they are chadars =) ..one is my sisters indian brown chadar...and one is a pink chadra...but good eye! I'm very big on that kind of stuff too.
SIGH :)
 

rajkaran

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Thanks for the video! I'd really appreciate a front-turla video as well...and I have a special request, if you don't mind when you make the video :p Could you please pay particular attention (explanation & video-wise) to the tucking-in of the last larh, tucking-in of the turla, and the shaping of the turla? Those seem to be key points missing in many of the pagh-tying videos I have downloaded. It'd help SO much if teams got the chance to properly see AND hear (in English) those crucial parts of tying a bhangra front-turla pagh. Please & thank you very much.

...but in regards to the putting the paggan on the floor, I think it's only disrespectful once the paghs are tied (aka all the larhs are done, and it obviously looks like a pagh), no?...before it's tied, it's just a piece of cloth. It's the process and meaning behind actually tying the pagh's shape and wearing it that allows it to earn the respect we give it. There is even a Punjabi parable about this concept...I can't recall the name.

However, I could obviously be wrong...and I'm open to more enlightenment :)
 

Yankee Saini

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rajkaran said:
...but in regards to the putting the paggan on the floor, I think it's only disrespectful once the paghs are tied (aka all the larhs are done, and it obviously looks like a pagh), no?...before it's tied, it's just a piece of cloth. It's the process and meaning behind actually tying the pagh's shape and wearing it that allows it to earn the respect we give it. There is even a Punjabi parable about this concept...I can't recall the name.

However, I could obviously be wrong...and I'm open to more enlightenment :)
Pagg is a Pagg. (aka Pagg) . . . so you're trying to say is this that pagg shouldn't be called a pagg until its properly done? right? or such as, "until all the larrhs r complete N' it looks like a pagg"(interesting ??? ) . . . never really thought of that, Mate. but here me out for a minute or so, ahem . . . Do pregnant womens still take care of their unborn child when its still in their "womb" or they really don't have to cos its not really a child yet? :eek: they shouldn't right? cos its "in the process" :) i mean they don't really have to go to doctor or take any medicine right? i don't think they should cos it's not out yet!!! 8) like you said "it's just a piece of cloth" cos it doesn't really look like a shape of the "pagg" . . . so something thats in process shouldn't be respected, right? thats what you r saying . . . if i'm wrong, do correct me, cos anything that relates to pagg doesn't harm me but people like you who have no knowledge of pagg watsoever, does make me feel a bit awkward!!! :mad:


"imagine the bhangra nation do bhangra without the paggs" ;D actually, just imagine yourself, you will totally look like a "doucebag" no joke!!! Why even bother to tie a pagg, dude? i mean come ON!!! why? it's just a cloth to you, right? how about you do this, take like 2 3 of your shirts N' rip em out N' ask you bebey(aka mom) to stitch em all together, so it would look like a long piece of "cloth" to you N' then try tying on your head. Idk, maybe you would start to respect that cos you actually spent shit loads of $$$ on it, right??? i bet you probably do have some good looking shirts!!! so how about it? you gonna do that now? you should dude, it'll be awesome!!! anyways, you're weird!!! before i get my punjabi on you, i should just take my leave, cos there's no point talking to folks like you!!! you might be famous here in the bhangra world, but to me you're nothing but an 4-5 yr. old who's still learning the basics of "Punjabi Culture". i don't blame you for this dude, i should blame your parents for not teaching you why "paggs is so important to punjabi's" . N' yo, to you, PAGG might be just a piece of "cloth" but to me and others, its our life!!! :-X


Rabb Rakha!!!
 

Gurbir23

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Yankee Saini said:
rajkaran said:
...but in regards to the putting the paggan on the floor, I think it's only disrespectful once the paghs are tied (aka all the larhs are done, and it obviously looks like a pagh), no?...before it's tied, it's just a piece of cloth. It's the process and meaning behind actually tying the pagh's shape and wearing it that allows it to earn the respect we give it. There is even a Punjabi parable about this concept...I can't recall the name.

However, I could obviously be wrong...and I'm open to more enlightenment :)
Pagg is a Pagg. (aka Pagg) . . . so you're trying to say is this that pagg shouldn't be called a pagg until its properly done? right? or such as, "until all the larrhs r complete N' it looks like a pagg"(interesting ??? ) . . . never really thought of that, Mate. but here me out for a minute or so, ahem . . . Do pregnant womens still take care of their unborn child when its still in their "womb" or they really don't have to cos its not really a child yet? :eek: they shouldn't right? cos its "in the process" :) i mean they don't really have to go to doctor or take any medicine right? i don't think they should cos it's not out yet!!! 8) like you said "it's just a piece of cloth" cos it doesn't really look like a shape of the "pagg" . . . so something thats in process shouldn't be respected, right? thats what you r saying . . . if i'm wrong, do correct me, cos anything that relates to pagg doesn't harm me but people like you who have no knowledge of pagg watsoever, does make me feel a bit awkward!!! :mad:


"imagine the bhangra nation do bhangra without the paggs" ;D actually, just imagine yourself, you will totally look like a "doucebag" no joke!!! Why even bother to tie a pagg, dude? i mean come ON!!! why? it's just a cloth to you, right? how about you do this, take like 2 3 of your shirts N' rip em out N' ask you bebey(aka mom) to stitch em all together, so it would look like a long piece of "cloth" to you N' then try tying on your head. Idk, maybe you would start to respect that cos you actually spent shit loads of $$$ on it, right??? i bet you probably do have some good looking shirts!!! so how about it? you gonna do that now? you should dude, it'll be awesome!!! anyways, you're weird!!! before i get my punjabi on you, i should just take my leave, cos there's no point talking to folks like you!!! you might be famous here in the bhangra world, but to me you're nothing but an 4-5 yr. old who's still learning the basics of "Punjabi Culture". i don't blame you for this dude, i should blame your parents for not teaching you why "paggs is so important to punjabi's" . N' yo, to you, PAGG might be just a piece of "cloth" but to me and others, its our life!!! :-X


Rabb Rakha!!!
Calm down there hero, he said something in a respectable manner in the hope that someone would respond in the same way, no need to go on a rampage comparing untied paggan to human fetuses
 

rajkaran

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Yankee Saini said:
rajkaran said:
...but in regards to the putting the paggan on the floor, I think it's only disrespectful once the paghs are tied (aka all the larhs are done, and it obviously looks like a pagh), no?...before it's tied, it's just a piece of cloth. It's the process and meaning behind actually tying the pagh's shape and wearing it that allows it to earn the respect we give it. There is even a Punjabi parable about this concept...I can't recall the name.

However, I could obviously be wrong...and I'm open to more enlightenment :)
Pagg is a Pagg. (aka Pagg) . . . so you're trying to say is this that pagg shouldn't be called a pagg until its properly done? right? or such as, "until all the larrhs r complete N' it looks like a pagg"(interesting ??? ) . . . never really thought of that, Mate. but here me out for a minute or so, ahem . . . Do pregnant womens still take care of their unborn child when its still in their "womb" or they really don't have to cos its not really a child yet? :eek: they shouldn't right? cos its "in the process" :) i mean they don't really have to go to doctor or take any medicine right? i don't think they should cos it's not out yet!!! 8) like you said "it's just a piece of cloth" cos it doesn't really look like a shape of the "pagg" . . . so something thats in process shouldn't be respected, right? thats what you r saying . . . if i'm wrong, do correct me, cos anything that relates to pagg doesn't harm me but people like you who have no knowledge of pagg watsoever, does make me feel a bit awkward!!! :mad:


"imagine the bhangra nation do bhangra without the paggs" ;D actually, just imagine yourself, you will totally look like a "doucebag" no joke!!! Why even bother to tie a pagg, dude? i mean come ON!!! why? it's just a cloth to you, right? how about you do this, take like 2 3 of your shirts N' rip em out N' ask you bebey(aka mom) to stitch em all together, so it would look like a long piece of "cloth" to you N' then try tying on your head. Idk, maybe you would start to respect that cos you actually spent shit loads of $$$ on it, right??? i bet you probably do have some good looking shirts!!! so how about it? you gonna do that now? you should dude, it'll be awesome!!! anyways, you're weird!!! before i get my punjabi on you, i should just take my leave, cos there's no point talking to folks like you!!! you might be famous here in the bhangra world, but to me you're nothing but an 4-5 yr. old who's still learning the basics of "Punjabi Culture". i don't blame you for this dude, i should blame your parents for not teaching you why "paggs is so important to punjabi's" . N' yo, to you, PAGG might be just a piece of "cloth" but to me and others, its our life!!! :-X


Rabb Rakha!!!
First of all, I am sorry that I offended you (or others). That was obviously not my intention. Rather, as Gurbir said, I was hoping to utilize this forum to my advantage by sharing something that I have learned and hopefully learn something new in return if I was wrong. I did mention that I could be wrong and was open to new enlightenment, hopefully in the form of a religious saying, informative website, etc. To be honest, I am still learning about Punjabi culture & it's a huge reason why I dance bhangra & am on this public forum...I was not expecting to be called names, or to have my parents ridiculed (who I might add have taught me quite a bit about Punjabi culture, including how to tie a pagh, and how to read Gurumukhi despite being the only Punjabi family where I live...there are others on this forum who can vouch for me). However, if that is your honest opinion, I have no right to take it away from you, and I'll duly note your comments.

Aside from how uncomfortable it was for me to read that post, I still have to thank you for the reply because I did in fact learn something about paghs from it. From what I gather, there are also people who attach respect to the actual cloth of the pagh. Now that I look more closely, there could be something I am missing. Maybe it's the material the pagh is made with? Maybe it's the shape? This concept is new to me and I was hoping for some enlightenment so that I learn more & can pass it along to others...because there's no use in calling names. We can perhaps continue this discussion on another thread so as to not ruin Lilly's helpful video thread (Thanks again!).

Peace & Rabb Rakha
 

Tuckerrrr

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rajkaran said:
Yankee Saini said:
rajkaran said:
...but in regards to the putting the paggan on the floor, I think it's only disrespectful once the paghs are tied (aka all the larhs are done, and it obviously looks like a pagh), no?...before it's tied, it's just a piece of cloth. It's the process and meaning behind actually tying the pagh's shape and wearing it that allows it to earn the respect we give it. There is even a Punjabi parable about this concept...I can't recall the name.

However, I could obviously be wrong...and I'm open to more enlightenment :)
Pagg is a Pagg. (aka Pagg) . . . so you're trying to say is this that pagg shouldn't be called a pagg until its properly done? right? or such as, "until all the larrhs r complete N' it looks like a pagg"(interesting ??? ) . . . never really thought of that, Mate. but here me out for a minute or so, ahem . . . Do pregnant womens still take care of their unborn child when its still in their "womb" or they really don't have to cos its not really a child yet? :eek: they shouldn't right? cos its "in the process" :) i mean they don't really have to go to doctor or take any medicine right? i don't think they should cos it's not out yet!!! 8) like you said "it's just a piece of cloth" cos it doesn't really look like a shape of the "pagg" . . . so something thats in process shouldn't be respected, right? thats what you r saying . . . if i'm wrong, do correct me, cos anything that relates to pagg doesn't harm me but people like you who have no knowledge of pagg watsoever, does make me feel a bit awkward!!! :mad:


"imagine the bhangra nation do bhangra without the paggs" ;D actually, just imagine yourself, you will totally look like a "doucebag" no joke!!! Why even bother to tie a pagg, dude? i mean come ON!!! why? it's just a cloth to you, right? how about you do this, take like 2 3 of your shirts N' rip em out N' ask you bebey(aka mom) to stitch em all together, so it would look like a long piece of "cloth" to you N' then try tying on your head. Idk, maybe you would start to respect that cos you actually spent shit loads of $$$ on it, right??? i bet you probably do have some good looking shirts!!! so how about it? you gonna do that now? you should dude, it'll be awesome!!! anyways, you're weird!!! before i get my punjabi on you, i should just take my leave, cos there's no point talking to folks like you!!! you might be famous here in the bhangra world, but to me you're nothing but an 4-5 yr. old who's still learning the basics of "Punjabi Culture". i don't blame you for this dude, i should blame your parents for not teaching you why "paggs is so important to punjabi's" . N' yo, to you, PAGG might be just a piece of "cloth" but to me and others, its our life!!! :-X


Rabb Rakha!!!
First of all, I am sorry that I offended you (or others). That was obviously not my intention. Rather, as Gurbir said, I was hoping to utilize this forum to my advantage by sharing something that I have learned and hopefully learn something new in return if I was wrong. I did mention that I could be wrong and was open to new enlightenment, hopefully in the form of a religious saying, informative website, etc. To be honest, I am still learning about Punjabi culture & it's a huge reason why I dance bhangra & am on this public forum...I was not expecting to be called names, or to have my parents ridiculed (who I might add have taught me quite a bit about Punjabi culture, including how to tie a pagh, and how to read Gurumukhi despite being the only Punjabi family where I live...there are others on this forum who can vouch for me). However, if that is your honest opinion, I have no right to take it away from you, and I'll duly note your comments.

Aside from how uncomfortable it was for me to read that post, I still have to thank you for the reply because I did in fact learn something about paghs from it. From what I gather, there are also people who attach respect to the actual cloth of the pagh. Now that I look more closely, there could be something I am missing. Maybe it's the material the pagh is made with? Maybe it's the shape? This concept is new to me and I was hoping for some enlightenment so that I learn more & can pass it along to others...because there's no use in calling names. We can perhaps continue this discussion on another thread so as to not ruin Lilly's helpful video thread (Thanks again!).

Peace & Rabb Rakha

Completely unnecessary Yankee Saini, ur comment only made u look ridiculous. Good job.

Rajkarn, I see where ur coming from bro. For practical reasons though, just makes sense not to have it dragging on the floor or any dirty surface since it's going to end up on your head! Respect to you and your parents.
 

rajkaran

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Tuckerrrr said:
Rajkarn, I see where ur coming from bro. For practical reasons though, just makes sense not to have it dragging on the floor or any dirty surface since it's going to end up on your head! Respect to you and your parents.
Wow. I completely didn't realize that one of the most practical reasons was RIGHT under my nose! haha Thanks! That reason makes sense to me.
 

jasraj93

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u improvedd:D and for da people talkikng about da pagh on the floor. Personally i do the same thing... i've tried tying paghs while there in sumones hand or if sumones holding em, it doesnt work out for me da pagh turns out soo messy, so i tend to drag it on da floor as we'll, no disrespect to the pagh its just cuz it turns out cleaner...
 
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