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Re: Nachdi.....whats this about
Well.... "sabi" doesn't HAVE to be the person who wrote it or even support it. Imagine if you came across that group and those accusations - I'm sure you'd want Nachdi Jawani to give their side of the story too. Personally, there are too many accusations and it seems like this person has a grudge. Calling out an organization for 1 or 2 events is acceptable. Calling it out for every single move made by an organization for multiple events is revengeJeeti said:
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I doubt the story posted on Facebook until it's confirmed by multiple people. Simple as that. I reported the FB group as a personal attack against a group, let's see if FB Mods are as pro-active as BTF's
There are better ways to get your voice heard than a bakwas FB group
I doubt the story posted on Facebook until it's confirmed by multiple people. Simple as that. I reported the FB group as a personal attack against a group, let's see if FB Mods are as pro-active as BTF's
There are better ways to get your voice heard than a bakwas FB groupTheBraveOne
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it is truu that alot of people left nachdi tho, theirs a new team called toronto elite bhangra who hav membors from nachdi
it is truu that alot of people left nachdi tho, theirs a new team called toronto elite bhangra who hav membors from nachdi
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"Annual Nite:-To fund their annual nite they again approached many businesses for financial supports setting high expectations and promises. Like myself, sponsors that were promised a VIP table and tickets but we were refused entry at the door. I left disappointedly. I believed we were supporting a good cause and were excited to see what this academy and its team does for the community but I left convinced that is money making scheme and only to support the prominent members. Some made a point to confront the members and some businesses left the matter unspoken simply out of disappointment."
-Well he is one of the sponsers, and if it was true and it was me, i would do the same thing.
-The girls bhangra with kaka incident, what they did to the girls was disgusting....wow....
- Gabbar, if you read this, post your incident also...
"Annual Nite:-To fund their annual nite they again approached many businesses for financial supports setting high expectations and promises. Like myself, sponsors that were promised a VIP table and tickets but we were refused entry at the door. I left disappointedly. I believed we were supporting a good cause and were excited to see what this academy and its team does for the community but I left convinced that is money making scheme and only to support the prominent members. Some made a point to confront the members and some businesses left the matter unspoken simply out of disappointment."
-Well he is one of the sponsers, and if it was true and it was me, i would do the same thing.
-The girls bhangra with kaka incident, what they did to the girls was disgusting....wow....
- Gabbar, if you read this, post your incident also...
darknite20
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i came across this website a few days ago i was originally a member of POL but like many agree POL has so much drama on, as far as the post on Facebook, its sad to say that most of it is true, I was part of Nachdi Jawani and Punjabi Vaca and i have seen members leave infront of me. I've personally known the team for more than 5 years now, i was also there wen the original founders were there. It is all true. Instructors don't get paid on time, many accusations are made about team members, it is true that the organization now is runned by mainly family members, the Virk Family, and the Atwal family, with their favourite member, the captain Ranjit Singh. They do try to participate in "sewa" but a lot of this sewa is money mided and directed towards business. Nachdi Jawani is not a non profit organization, their main concern is money. Also the disrespect towards their female dancers is pretty discusting, especially with the whole KAKA thing. I left a few months ago from nachdi, and i personally don't know wat the hell i was doing on that team. Because of me being disrespected and mistreated, i don't feel like doing bhangra anymore. It is also true that their main priority (besides money) is ofcourse wining, winning, and winning! Wen Nachi Jawani placed at VIBC just recently they placed 3rd. When i came to practice the week after and the trophy was on the main desk, one of the members said "YO DASH THAT SHIT AWAY, WE DUN DESERVE THAT. WE'RE FIRST!" all you may or may not want to believe all this but, like i said i was part of nachdi, i'm not on a bhangra team rite now, but toronto elite sounds wiked, and best of luck with u guys. As far as nachdi goes, i really think more people should speak up just like the fb post says, and there should be something done. I personally think nachdi shouldn't be able to compete in toronto based competitions. If nachdi gets accepted to compete in Bhangra Nation 2008, thats just retarded!!!! After stealing bhangra nation's dholi, Ustad Mashi, i personally don't think that Bhangra Nation should let them in. Wat do you guys think??
i came across this website a few days ago i was originally a member of POL but like many agree POL has so much drama on, as far as the post on Facebook, its sad to say that most of it is true, I was part of Nachdi Jawani and Punjabi Vaca and i have seen members leave infront of me. I've personally known the team for more than 5 years now, i was also there wen the original founders were there. It is all true. Instructors don't get paid on time, many accusations are made about team members, it is true that the organization now is runned by mainly family members, the Virk Family, and the Atwal family, with their favourite member, the captain Ranjit Singh. They do try to participate in "sewa" but a lot of this sewa is money mided and directed towards business. Nachdi Jawani is not a non profit organization, their main concern is money. Also the disrespect towards their female dancers is pretty discusting, especially with the whole KAKA thing. I left a few months ago from nachdi, and i personally don't know wat the hell i was doing on that team. Because of me being disrespected and mistreated, i don't feel like doing bhangra anymore. It is also true that their main priority (besides money) is ofcourse wining, winning, and winning! Wen Nachi Jawani placed at VIBC just recently they placed 3rd. When i came to practice the week after and the trophy was on the main desk, one of the members said "YO DASH THAT SHIT AWAY, WE DUN DESERVE THAT. WE'RE FIRST!" all you may or may not want to believe all this but, like i said i was part of nachdi, i'm not on a bhangra team rite now, but toronto elite sounds wiked, and best of luck with u guys. As far as nachdi goes, i really think more people should speak up just like the fb post says, and there should be something done. I personally think nachdi shouldn't be able to compete in toronto based competitions. If nachdi gets accepted to compete in Bhangra Nation 2008, thats just retarded!!!! After stealing bhangra nation's dholi, Ustad Mashi, i personally don't think that Bhangra Nation should let them in. Wat do you guys think??
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its hard to believe all that.....
i don't know bro here is the thing...Toronto seems to have a lot of politics when it comes to bhangra, with out people actually providing some identity it doesn't make your clame or that facebook clame anymore legit Its easy for a story to be twisted....the glass can be half full or half empty depends how you look at it.
just my opinion on all this. also TEB are you guys going to be live or music....can't wait for you guys to enter the bhangra scene
its hard to believe all that.....
don't really see anything wrong with that, They founded and own it..last time i checked they are no a publicly traded organization that has rules about family involvement. They can have who every run it. its really up to them..don't see why people are pointing it out like its a bad thing. When you have people leaving your organization and start losing trust you tend to only go to people you know can't cross you.
i am not sure if people are apart of organizations but organizations do need to make money...just because you are non profit it doesn't mean you can not try to make money...if you don't make money you can't fund the same activities over and over. granted NJ does have 700+ plus students. but they also have expenses they have three branches, host a competition, and pay for teams to go out and compete...not just their seniors, but juniors, toddler, and girls..that does cost a lot.
that not a bad priority, especially when you are pumped to be one of the better teams you have to start living up to it. There is nothing wrong with a team just doing bhangra for fun or just in it to win
I am sure a lot of people who don't even place say they should have placed every team that doesn't walk away with first must feel like they did good and deserve first or to place...and do express their opinion, not in public but, at practice the next week....your were on the team at that time and i am pretty sure they didn't expect you to go on BTF and tell everyone what they said, if so they would have never said it in front of you
i don't know bro here is the thing...Toronto seems to have a lot of politics when it comes to bhangra, with out people actually providing some identity it doesn't make your clame or that facebook clame anymore legit Its easy for a story to be twisted....the glass can be half full or half empty depends how you look at it.
just my opinion on all this. also TEB are you guys going to be live or music....can't wait for you guys to enter the bhangra scene
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I can say i'm pretty good friends with all teams in Toronto. Whoever wrote this wrote it out of revenge. I read this a while back, and no one joined the group or really knew about this. So it seems like Sabi is some how affiliated with the writer and they are seeking a way to get this essay (LOL) out to the public.
I think people who come on BTF (darknite) and choose a side to this, are also affiliated with the writer. I mention dark nite because of his response.
I haven't heard both sides of the story, and besides who am I to really judge how someone elses organization is functioning. Maybe if Pvaca responds then we'll get somewhere with this. But from the looks of it they will not. It seems to me like they one of the most successful acadamies in Toronto. Maybe they are doing what is write for their organization. We need to know both sides of the story in order to actually judge the situation.
I can say i'm pretty good friends with all teams in Toronto. Whoever wrote this wrote it out of revenge. I read this a while back, and no one joined the group or really knew about this. So it seems like Sabi is some how affiliated with the writer and they are seeking a way to get this essay (LOL) out to the public.
I think people who come on BTF (darknite) and choose a side to this, are also affiliated with the writer. I mention dark nite because of his response.
I haven't heard both sides of the story, and besides who am I to really judge how someone elses organization is functioning. Maybe if Pvaca responds then we'll get somewhere with this. But from the looks of it they will not. It seems to me like they one of the most successful acadamies in Toronto. Maybe they are doing what is write for their organization. We need to know both sides of the story in order to actually judge the situation.
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This 'essay' is written really well, and it can clearly be seen its written out of 'revenge'. I read this last week sometime on facebook and didnt pay much attention to it.
Instead of taking the time to write it out, make a facebook group outta it and then put it on BTF, its prolly more beneficial for VACA and whoever the other party is to talk it out amongst themselves instead of airing out dirty laundry without any support, their are always 2 sides to every story.
I personally only pay attention to Nachdi Jawanis bhangra, who runs their academy, how they run it, if its legit or not, how they treat their memebers is honestly no ones business. Them coming around with amazing routines once/twice a year, setting the bar higher everytime is good enough for me, the rest of it is all their business.
This 'essay' is written really well, and it can clearly be seen its written out of 'revenge'. I read this last week sometime on facebook and didnt pay much attention to it.
Instead of taking the time to write it out, make a facebook group outta it and then put it on BTF, its prolly more beneficial for VACA and whoever the other party is to talk it out amongst themselves instead of airing out dirty laundry without any support, their are always 2 sides to every story.
I personally only pay attention to Nachdi Jawanis bhangra, who runs their academy, how they run it, if its legit or not, how they treat their memebers is honestly no ones business. Them coming around with amazing routines once/twice a year, setting the bar higher everytime is good enough for me, the rest of it is all their business.
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well said HK, we should just ignore this and let the two sides resolve this issue away from this website. Nobody needs to be exploiting a team about business matters. THis is a good, clean, bhangra website, the issue at hand is irrelevant. Lets have this thread locked mods. Thanks.
well said HK, we should just ignore this and let the two sides resolve this issue away from this website. Nobody needs to be exploiting a team about business matters. THis is a good, clean, bhangra website, the issue at hand is irrelevant. Lets have this thread locked mods. Thanks.
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Re: Nachdi.....whats this about
I agree with people and say to take this with a grain of salt. You obviously cannot believe everything you hear. What is important, however, is to not shy away from reprimanding our fellow brothers and sisters in the bhangra/Punjabi community. If there is shady tactics going on, we cannot just act like "oh its okay, as long as they continue to make awesome routines." Integrity is important. Its something everyone in our culture respects. So if you are going to put bhangra dancing above dignified business practices, it would be a shame to our culture.
Once again, I do not believe most of this and from my few encounters with the Nachdi, they seem really respectful and I doubt they would do anything to intentionally inhibit others and the spread of Bhangra artform. What I said above is just what I feel about any bhangra team in general.
I agree with people and say to take this with a grain of salt. You obviously cannot believe everything you hear. What is important, however, is to not shy away from reprimanding our fellow brothers and sisters in the bhangra/Punjabi community. If there is shady tactics going on, we cannot just act like "oh its okay, as long as they continue to make awesome routines." Integrity is important. Its something everyone in our culture respects. So if you are going to put bhangra dancing above dignified business practices, it would be a shame to our culture.
Once again, I do not believe most of this and from my few encounters with the Nachdi, they seem really respectful and I doubt they would do anything to intentionally inhibit others and the spread of Bhangra artform. What I said above is just what I feel about any bhangra team in general.
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Varun I see wat where you are coming from but integrity is important everywhere. But at the same time, wat goes in the bank accounts of a academy isnt really anyones business, or how someone treats their team. If theirs a problem then it should be solved between the ppl who are concerned and I dont think its a ' punjabi community' issue.
VACA is a business, NJ is a team in that academy, and for the purposes of us, as being part of a 'bhangra fraternity' the 'team' aspect is what we should be concerned with, not the business.
Varun I see wat where you are coming from but integrity is important everywhere. But at the same time, wat goes in the bank accounts of a academy isnt really anyones business, or how someone treats their team. If theirs a problem then it should be solved between the ppl who are concerned and I dont think its a ' punjabi community' issue.
VACA is a business, NJ is a team in that academy, and for the purposes of us, as being part of a 'bhangra fraternity' the 'team' aspect is what we should be concerned with, not the business.
