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vishwassodhi

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Loved this post, i really miss that josh in the bhangra, some teams take it to a whole different level and the drama just adds on to the already stressful life with work and school. I do it because I absolutely love bhangra and to be associated with my culture , but when people make it all about their respective team's "legacy", they make it political and thats not fun. My question is, why does it matter what team you are on, and why turn down other teams when the purpose of establishing a team is the same, that is BHANGRA?? Not saying there shouldn't be a competition, but when that competition becomes a rivalry and teams start hating on each other, its just not worth it anymore.
 

JSaw

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ENVY BANG-RUH

Let the music move you!!!!!
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My first post in IDK how long. But I'm dead. Aman and Ankur always doin their thing, speaking the truth as always.
 

Sundeeptij

*Buckeye Bhangra*
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I could not agree more! Recently teams have been winning based on their gimmicks rather than on their actual Bhangra, the tradition and culture of Bhangra is unfortunately diminishing from the Bhangra circuit.
 

mrchicity

Active Member
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Sundeeptij said:
I could not agree more! Recently teams have been winning based on their gimmicks rather than on their actual Bhangra, the tradition and culture of Bhangra is unfortunately diminishing from the Bhangra circuit.
Hasn't been just recently, this kind of thing's been going on since 2011. Take any winning routine from 2008-2010, I'm sure they would stack up really well against current sets. VCU Bhangra at Burgh 2008 is still the best coed set of all time and it's probably a tossup between SGPD at Idols 09 or Jawani Warriors at Masti 4 for best all guys set. It's sad that there haven't been any routines to really challenge them in the past 4-6 years.
 

amancheema

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mrchicity said:
Sundeeptij said:
I could not agree more! Recently teams have been winning based on their gimmicks rather than on their actual Bhangra, the tradition and culture of Bhangra is unfortunately diminishing from the Bhangra circuit.
Hasn't been just recently, this kind of thing's been going on since 2011. Take any winning routine from 2008-2010, I'm sure they would stack up really well against current sets. VCU Bhangra at Burgh 2008 is still the best coed set of all time and it's probably a tossup between SGPD at Idols 09 or Jawani Warriors at Masti 4 for best all guys set. It's sad that there haven't been any routines to really challenge them in the past 4-6 years.

+1 brah


Look, gimmicks or no gimmicks it takes a lot of time, effort, and sacrifice to put a set together... I get that. I am openly biased about what I like in a set but at the end of the day its all just my opinion and nothing more. I also get its pointless to post on this site about it but kisse nu bill ni penda so idgaf.


I like creativity... but I would rather see how creative a team can be within the bounds of walking on stage with only a sapp in one hand and a khunda in the other... If you're really a great team, you won't have to rely on billboards, flood lights, and other stupid arts and crafts objects to put on a memorable performance. Just wish the energy and time put into doing weird gimmicks was used instead to teach team members how to wow an audience with a 7 minute thar thar dancing performance. And I know I'm not crazy because as been pointed out, it's been done before!
 

J-Skeet

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mrchicity said:
Sundeeptij said:
I could not agree more! Recently teams have been winning based on their gimmicks rather than on their actual Bhangra, the tradition and culture of Bhangra is unfortunately diminishing from the Bhangra circuit.
Hasn't been just recently, this kind of thing's been going on since 2011. Take any winning routine from 2008-2010, I'm sure they would stack up really well against current sets. VCU Bhangra at Burgh 2008 is still the best coed set of all time and it's probably a tossup between SGPD at Idols 09 or Jawani Warriors at Masti 4 for best all guys set. It's sad that there haven't been any routines to really challenge them in the past 4-6 years.

just cuz i feel like you can't name all those sets w/o including nj @dda 09


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzoRgsn_gs
 

SGupta7

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amancheema said:
mrchicity said:
Sundeeptij said:
I could not agree more! Recently teams have been winning based on their gimmicks rather than on their actual Bhangra, the tradition and culture of Bhangra is unfortunately diminishing from the Bhangra circuit.
Hasn't been just recently, this kind of thing's been going on since 2011. Take any winning routine from 2008-2010, I'm sure they would stack up really well against current sets. VCU Bhangra at Burgh 2008 is still the best coed set of all time and it's probably a tossup between SGPD at Idols 09 or Jawani Warriors at Masti 4 for best all guys set. It's sad that there haven't been any routines to really challenge them in the past 4-6 years.

+1 brah


Look, gimmicks or no gimmicks it takes a lot of time, effort, and sacrifice to put a set together... I get that. I am openly biased about what I like in a set but at the end of the day its all just my opinion and nothing more. I also get its pointless to post on this site about it but kisse nu bill ni penda so idgaf.


I like creativity... but I would rather see how creative a team can be within the bounds of walking on stage with only a sapp in one hand and a khunda in the other... If you're really a great team, you won't have to rely on billboards, flood lights, and other stupid arts and crafts objects to put on a memorable performance. Just wish the energy and time put into doing weird gimmicks was used instead to teach team members how to wow an audience with a 7 minute thar thar dancing performance. And I know I'm not crazy because as been pointed out, it's been done before!

Well said.


Also should be noted that a lot of competitions out there are promoting entertainment value over dancing. So even if a team wants to be more folk, it's difficult because that's generally not rewarded on the circuit. Not saying that trophies are the only thing that matters, but consistent placings certainly help put a team on the map in the bhangra community, which can open up a lot of doors for teams to be more confident and creative in their routines.


On a secondary note, at least for collegiate teams, being able to come back to our school with a trophy and a check allows us to receive more funding, which makes it easier for us to pay for competitions/vardiyaan/props etc. So I think for a lot of teams these incentives can outweigh the desire to do a more traditional bhangra routine.
 

harkeerat24

Twitter: @harkeerat24
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Agree with u 100%
we also got a bunch of Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith wanna be's on BTF who dont go out and perform themselves but act like they know everything about it.
 

gursh313

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RsKderpu said:
Someone get Gurdas Maan to host a competition. That will be "folk" as f**k

I nominate Gurdas Maan but I also have Bhagwant, Sharry, and Babbu Maan just in case.


If you want a little spice, just bring Badal.
 

The Honest Truth

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harkeerat24 said:
Agree with u 100%
we also got a bunch of Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith wanna be's on BTF who dont go out and perform themselves but act like they know everything about it.
+1 Couldn't agree more my friend and decided to make a BTF account just to give you a plus one lol....Please don't attack a team or try to judge the circuit as a whole if you yourself have not danced ever let alone know what its like to put in the amount of time and work we put into it. You know who you are folks.
 

Anik915

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SGupta7 said:
Also should be noted that a lot of competitions out there are promoting entertainment value over dancing.
There's a reason why shows are promoting entertainment value. I've had a lot of family members, friends, etc. come to our competitions, or shows (Pao Bhangra) to watch - and they all say the same thing: "After a while, every performance looks the same." I can understand their stance - 8 teams bringing similar, "folk" (no one knows what folk means as Faizan delineated in his earlier post) sets can feel hackneyed. What I, personally, enjoyed about the performances at WBBC, is that teams were able to differentiate - when not held to any "bounds," teams were free to define themselves in whatever way they felt like.

Emphasizing entertainment is not necessarily a bad thing - it's what has kept the audience numbers at WBBC growing (and what has kept Blowout numbers shrinking). Look, the most number of BTF members online ever at any point is 501- our giant, all-knowing, ubiquitous circuit is much smaller than many people come to realize. If a competition is interested in keeping the other 1,000 (non BTF members) entertained at their show - who's to blame them?

Shawn makes an excellent point - what competitions reward via money & hardware can have a big impact on what performances they bring next. In my personal experience: After not placing at Blowout 19 for being "too modern", Kartik and I tried to bring a more traditional set to T Dot Bhangra 2012 - it worked (in some sense). We won, got money, went to burgh, got second, got money & trophies. But at the same time, we didn't get nearly the crowd reaction that we loved, and still looked back at our blowout set as one of our favorites - hence the path to WBBC and the performance that we brought last year - but that's only because the WBBC rubric was accepting/appreciative of all styles. As Shawn's point proves, if a competition like WBBC had a myopic rubric that only appreciated one style, teams would bring that style (to win, get money, etc.). Yes, there are some teams that would bring whatever style regardless of the rubric - but they are badass. Collegiate teams need the money to keep traveling, to allow for more opportunities, and to purchase capital. So yes - competitions and judges have a huge role in defining what teams do. AKA: Don't hate the player, hate the game.

At the same time, it's important to remember that it goes both ways. Motor City seemed to be very preferential of one style: one that is thought of as "traditional" & "folk" (once again refer to Faizan's post, I love it). I heard that teams that got standing ovations did not even place - this can discourage teams from bringing their crowd pleasing sets, and tone it down to one that is appreciated by that specific competition & judges (not saying that this is a bad thing, just providing an analysis).

Anyways, I'll go back to tying this Chaadra, can someone hand me a Safety Pind ;)

~Anik
 

HarmanToor

Nachde Yaar Punjab De
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As long as "wow factors/gimmicks" are weighed heavily in the rubric, you have to incorporate it in your dance to win, you can't work around it! If you guys are tired of gimmicks ruining bhangra performances, then don't award points for them.
 

faizan

Just shut up and dance
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Folk snobs bore me, yawwwwwwwn.

If you want folk bhangra, go to live. Everything else is bullshit.

It's 2014 not 2008, move forward or risk being trapped in your nostalgia. Enjoy those fuzzy youtube videos.
 

amancheema

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faizan said:
Folk snobs bore me, yawwwwwwwn.

If you want folk bhangra, go to live. Everything else is bullshit.

It's 2014 not 2008, move forward or risk being trapped in your nostalgia. Enjoy those fuzzy youtube videos.
We seem to abide by polar opposite definitions of "bullshit"

Ohhhhh nooooooo
 
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