Mahatma Gandhi - a curse for Bharat

[Meistro]

Who stood in front of bullets anytime India has a problem it was Sikhs but when it came time to give credit for things or reapect Sikh's never got any. Think about we are not free in our own country that we helped azadd from British Sikhs have to get married under Hindu marrige act I mean in pakinstan they approved Sikh marriage act why isn't there such thing in India because they want Sikhs to feel like they are part of hinduism. India has a hard time accepting Sikhism as a different religion.

Dude why are you even mentioning sikhs? Bhagat singh was only a sikh growing up, but he did not have a religion. He didn't believe in God. I don't know why sikhs "claim" bhagat singh. Now if we're talking about Udham Singh, thats a totally different story and I would agree with you. If you're mentioning how valiant Punjabis are and how much they have done for the country, thats a much more valid statement.

 

[Saab]

To place heroism on one individual for monumental change is often times un-merited or doesnt encompass the work done by many individuals who worked tirelessly and with no reward. The image of "Gandhi" is just the lives and souls of others who made this possible. Gandhi didnt really do anything with his ideals, his ideas, his actions. He just happened to give us belief when his resistance became protracted, and thats all we needed.

 

[KaraN]

Jado Vi Deshi Nu Khoon Di Lorh Pehii...Humi Huske Pari Punjabiyan Ne

Bruuuuuuuuuuuahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh X 2

 

[Jabar Jung]

All we see is pictures of Gandhi everwhere u go in goverment office n the pic on the money. Why don't we see any o the shaheed's pictures on money or even in goverment office.

I always hate that fact that every note has the same pictures. So i made this ahah

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v216/237/109/1359930093/n1359930093_30019646_8760.jpg

 

[KushK]

All we see is pictures of Gandhi everwhere u go in goverment office n the pic on the money. Why don't we see any o the shaheed's pictures on money or even in goverment office.

I always hate that fact that every note has the same pictures. So i made this ahah

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v216/237/109/1359930093/n1359930093_30019646_8760.jpg

Deff would love to see that bro, good work!! The shaheeds deff need to be given more respect in india.

 

[Mowsuf]

All we see is pictures of Gandhi everwhere u go in goverment office n the pic on the money. Why don't we see any o the shaheed's pictures on money or even in goverment office.

I always hate that fact that every note has the same pictures. So i made this ahah

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v216/237/109/1359930093/n1359930093_30019646_8760.jpg

thas a good lookin note

 

[rampur209]

All we see is pictures of Gandhi everwhere u go in goverment office n the pic on the money. Why don't we see any o the shaheed's pictures on money or even in goverment office.

I always hate that fact that every note has the same pictures. So i made this ahah

that is a sick ass note

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v216/237/109/1359930093/n1359930093_30019646_8760.jpg

 

[HarmanSingh]

To place heroism on one individual for monumental change is often times un-merited or doesnt encompass the work done by many individuals who worked tirelessly and with no reward.

Agree 100%. The struggle did not start or end with any one person, nor is any one person the reason for success or failure.

 

[Meistro]

During World War II, Gandhi penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender to the Nazis. Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife,” he said. “They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” “Collective suicide,” he told his biographer, “would have been heroism.”

thats horrible and cowardly.

 

[- Raja -]

your ill Jabar

 

[Varun]

To place heroism on one individual for monumental change is often times un-merited or doesnt encompass the work done by many individuals who worked tirelessly and with no reward.

So true. People love attaching themselves to an ideal, be it Ahimsa and Gandhism or Social Revolution of Marxists like Bhagat Singh, Gadar Party, Lala Hardayal, etc.

This idolization on both ends of the extreme prevent true history from being realized. Alas, people will adhere to icons like Gandhi when they wish to usher in Hindu Nationalism and people will misrepresent the life of Bhagat Singh to create Sikh nationalism.

Btw, to the guy who said something along the lines that implied "Sikhs always defended India and never got shit back." I think you should research the military history of India. You will be surprised by the role Marathis, Gurkhas, Rajputs and other ethnic groups had in the defense of Indian principalities. You will also be surprised if you will see the amount of enlistment by Sikhs (and other Punjabis) in the British Indian Army and the East India Company army. One whole side of my family is Moyal Brahmins (same caste as Bhai Mati Das, etc.) and they have been a marital caste for centuries. My Grand Uncle was a POW in WWII Japanese camp under British Army and my Uncle fought in all three wars against Pakistan.

True history is rarely one-sided. There is so much blurriness and that not-so-fine line between whos good and whos bad.

Anyway, if Jabar wants to research the truth on Gandhi, I encourage you, bro. But don't try to be controversial for controversy's sake. Seek the Truth and the whole Truth (ie don't just pin yourself on Gandhi's evils by stating "I don't care about the good things he's done." That makes you biases and uneducated.)

 

[Meistro]

Anyway, if Jabar wants to research the truth on Gandhi, I encourage you, bro. But don't try to be controversial for controversy's sake. Seek the Truth and the whole Truth (ie don't just pin yourself on Gandhi's evils by stating "I don't care about the good things he's done." That makes you biases and uneducated.)

this is key.

 

[Jabar Jung]

Anyway, if Jabar wants to research the truth on Gandhi, I encourage you, bro. But don't try to be controversial for controversy's sake. Seek the Truth and the whole Truth (ie don't just pin yourself on Gandhi's evils by stating "I don't care about the good things he's done." That makes you biases and uneducated.)

Bro, what i really meant was that i am not really discussing what his positives were, he also had a lot of negatives and i just wanted to focus on the negatives because many people really don't know or ignore it just because of the fact that such "mahatma" may not even have any negatives.

Anyway thanks for the advice appreciate it Bro.

 

[AnkurK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaHcZUHI00&feature=related

 

[Jabar Jung]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGVoLsDS3t8

 

[AnkurK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaHcZUHI00&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbhangrateamsforum%2Ecom%2Fdiscuss%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D5811%2Emsg70325&feature=player_embedded

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

http://www.razarumi.com/2008/03/28/on-bhagat-singh/
'On Bhagat Singh, his vision and Jinnah’s support for his struggle' Interesting blog post.

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

and another awesome article about Bhagat Singh
http://www.cpimlnd.org/november-2006/ideological-development-of-bhagat-singh.html

Also apperantly Indian Marxists hate Israel's policies too!
http://www.cpimlnd.org/miscellaneous/zionist-crime-against-humanity.html

Sweet. Sign me up.

 

[Jabar Jung]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaHcZUHI00&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbhangrateamsforum%2Ecom%2Fdiscuss%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D5811%2Emsg70325&feature=player_embedded

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