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[KammyT]

It's officiallll
Mats Sundin is a Vancouver Canuck !!!

 

[HermanJ.]

money!!!!

 

[Meistro]

HELLL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow I'd love to see what Canucks haters have to say about this. Summy, boy does Toronto hate their fans. First wellwood was "trash" now we got Sundin. HAHAHAHAH. ohh boyyy, SJ sharks watch your backs.

 

[Manjot]

SUNDINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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SICK

 

[Summy]

he wanted to come back to us, but we said no. Last year, we had a deal with the Canadiens to send him there but he didnt wave his no trade clause. Same thing with Kaberle and 3 other leafs (we had Jeff Carter for Karble)...

The leafs arae trying to succeed. With the new mangagement, unlike the Canucks, we are not content with mediocre play. He will forever live in the shadow of #93. Its sad he took the money and ran... Thats the only reason Id go to the canucks as well, because they offered an absurd amount of money. Every players choice in the nhl is to play in toronto. Its the Mecca. Its the place. Its like Knicks, Lakers and Celtics combined into one. The rest of the league has what we dont want. We are the city everyone wants to live in, and every player wants the passion in Toronto.

You think if Toronto offered a 2 year 20 million deal he would have choose Vancouver? Think about all the free agents in the history of the NHL, nobody has ever turned down Toronto. They have always choose the money.

By the way, if it wasnt for revenue sharing, the sharks and canucks wouldnt have enough money to get a full roster.

Its funny how, the whole league, they are falling in love with our sloppy seconds......

 

[jvirk]

lolllllllllll

im not a canucks hater but dnt wry...u guys wnt even come close to the sharks..

they are straight up nasty...i use to think that they didnt have a chance and were lucky earlier in the season..but if u watch them play...they are the sickest team ever

in every aspect of hte game they will have u beat and beat badly...goaltending..defense..defensive scoring..special teams..OFFENSE..etc..

theyre too sick...even w/ sundin nucks wnt do anything to the sharks

im not saying my team can do anything either...sabres suck

 

[Gurvir]

normally i make fun of the canucks since a large portion of my relatives live in canada..but im not gonna lie they are really good this year and sundin will be the icing on the cake

 

[HermanJ.]

The only problem I have with Sundin, is last year the reason that he didn't wave his no trade clause was because he didn't want to become a '' rent-a-player'', and signing this deal with the Canucks, that what he has essentially become. There is no doubt that he will boaster the Canucks line up for sure. Playing along side Demita, and perhaps Bernier, that's another line that can put up some big points.

Summy, you said the leafs are trying to get better, and aren't content with mediocre play? I don't think that the Canucks are content with mediocre play, that's why they put the offer out to Sundin, to improve overall team. The knock on the Canucks is that they have been a one line team when it comes to the playoffs. --> Bertuzzi, Morrision, Naslund, and then The Sedin line. The signing of Sundin give them a chance to have a experienced player who can help them out in the playoffs.

The Leafs have a number of years until they will be considered a legit contender. They still have to work on getting draft picks for future drafts , because they didn't have the patience to wait and hold on to them, and just wasted them on player they thought could help. (Ex. Gary Roberts, Alex Mogiliny, Dave Andrachuck) They also haven't given the chance to any of their young guns in their system to excel in the big leagues.(Ex. Pogey .. hasn't really had the chance to play in the NHL.) Last point about Toronto, though they are the ''mecca'' of the hockey world, I doubt anyone will be wanting to play there until they actually have a contending team.

And now I have a question, well it's more of a pet peeve, but why do people refer to the teams they for as ''we''? "Oh, WE got Sundin'', "We didn't want Sundin''. I don't get it. What do you mean ''we''?

 

[Guppi Top Da]

for those of you who think that the canucks are now cup contenders...

LOL...

typical canucks fans...

--- vancouver fans are the worst fans in the canadian market

(i like the canucks just as much as anyone ... but im realistic)

again, if you think this move makes them a cup contender... i dont agree.. they are missing a few more peices. this will help them win maybe MAYBE 1 more round in the playoffs.

 

[Vick]

Sharks got spanked tonight by the Wings 6-0.... hahaha... I still think we're the best team in the land and the Redwings caught us on a back to back night...

And Gaynuck fan, you guys will still suck... Sundin is no game changer... He's no Thornton, Datsyuk, Zetterberg or Ovechkin... Be happy, but you guys will still suck and be the team in Canada no one cares about...

 

[Meistro]

hahahahah don't worry, keep talkin. Sundin isnt as washed up as you all think he is. He's been putting up some solid numbers for years, just never had a solid supporting cast. Canucks fans are the worst in the canadian market? Yeah, thats why we STILL have the longest sell out streak in the NHL right? We believe in our team. haha I just love how you keep justifying Toronto's shittiness Summy. Seriously, the Maple leafs aren't content with mediocre play? THats the biggest joke ive heard. Take a look at these stats and chew on em for a bit. Your guys' "sloppy seconds" are actually WANTING to play with the Canucks and produce.

Kyle Wellwood:
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
2005-2006 Maple Leafs 81 11 34 45 0 14 3 0 0 117 9.4
2006-2007 Maple Leafs 48 12 30 42 3 0 7 0 2 99 12.1
2007-2008 Maple Leafs 59 8 13 21 -12 0 5 0 1 57 14.0
2008-2009 Canucks 27 12 5 17 6 0 7 0 3 35 34.3

Mats Sundin:
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
2003-2004 Maple Leafs 81 31 44 75 11 52 11 1 10 226 13.7
2005-2006 Maple Leafs 70 31 47 78 7 58 16 2 2 220 14.1
2006-2007 Maple Leafs 75 27 49 76 -2 62 6 1 3 321 8.4
2007-2008 Maple Leafs 74 32 46 78 17 76 10 1 4 259 12.4

 

[Guppi Top Da]

Canucks fans are the worst in the canadian market? Yeah, thats why we STILL have the longest sell out streak in the NHL right? We believe in our team.

1) yes they are the worst fans in canadian market
- Reason:
a) they sell out yes... how many people at GM place wear anything to do with the canucks? being a canuck fan here is a social thing. when you look at 18,000 people not very many of them are wearing canuck gear. people rock their ed hardy/armani shirts/blazers.
b) trevor linden, the most iconic figure in canuck history - gets his number retired. the crowd cheers for a few seconds and stops... where were the cheers "LINDEN LINDEN" ... nothing like that... sickening.
c) you celebrate any other player in any other market, the fans will not stop cheering for their player... (prime example: saku koivu returns to habs after battling cancer.... the hab fans cheered for 8 minutes straight)... that is fan loyalty...
d) 3 minutes left in a canucks game and 1/3 of the arena is empty... people dont care... they got work in the morning... ---- now i know there are many die hard fans who would stay till the end... but you are the minority. people get tickets and just go to the game for the sake of going. leafs/flames/oilers/canadiens' fans stay till the end. how many times do you hear a weaka*s "go canucks go" chant... maybe 2-3 times MAX. any other market... constant cheers for their team. (montreal fans "oleee oleee" "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye")

again, there are many people that love the canucks and support them... but there are VERY few people in this town as a whole who really care abou this team. how easy was it to get tickets when the team sucked... soo easy. now its hard but there mostly just sold to people that want to be canuck fans just for the sake of saying it.

a lot of desi people i noticed, "canucks game ohni aaj"... they don't know the first thing about hockey but are supporting the team right now because its the 'thing to do'... its not a passion...its just something to do. if the team was not doing so well... they wouldn't even mention them.

if you think sundin was the missing peice... you need to look at that puzzle one more time and relize that there are a few more peices missing.

p.s
i love the canucks... but im realistic.

 

[Guppi Top Da]

canucks make the playoffs... all the canuck flags come out.

calgary/edmonton/toronto: team flags on cars all season long.

*dont even get me started on kyle wellwood...

/end rant.

 

[Nikhil]

Go caps!

 

[Karan V]

d) 3 minutes left in a canucks game and 1/3 of the arena is empty... people dont care... they got work in the morning... ---- now i know there are many die hard fans who would stay till the end... but you are the minority. people get tickets and just go to the game for the sake of going. leafs/flames/oilers/canadiens' fans stay till the end. how many times do you hear a weaka*s "go canucks go" chant... maybe 2-3 times MAX. any other market... constant cheers for their team. (montreal fans "oleee oleee" "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye")

again, there are many people that love the canucks and support them... but there are VERY few people in this town as a whole who really care abou this team. how easy was it to get tickets when the team sucked... soo easy. now its hard but there mostly just sold to people that want to be canuck fans just for the sake of saying it.

a lot of desi people i noticed, "canucks game ohni aaj"... they don't know the first thing about hockey but are supporting the team right now because its the 'thing to do'... its not a passion...its just something to do. if the team was not doing so well... they wouldn't even mention them.

cant forget the 50,000 desis packed on scott road after the canucks won the first round. people were going mental. ppl with the suv's drving around honking. sum other desi brought their dhols and started playing on top of the cars. people doing bhangra everywhere. homemade stanley cups. whole road was blocked off.

 

[HermanJ.]

Canucks fans are the worst in the canadian market? Yeah, thats why we STILL have the longest sell out streak in the NHL right? We believe in our team.

1) yes they are the worst fans in canadian market
- Reason:
a) they sell out yes... how many people at GM place wear anything to do with the canucks? being a canuck fan here is a social thing. when you look at 18,000 people not very many of them are wearing canuck gear. people rock their ed hardy/armani shirts/blazers.
b) trevor linden, the most iconic figure in canuck history - gets his number retired. the crowd cheers for a few seconds and stops... where were the cheers "LINDEN LINDEN" ... nothing like that... sickening.
c) you celebrate any other player in any other market, the fans will not stop cheering for their player... (prime example: saku koivu returns to habs after battling cancer.... the hab fans cheered for 8 minutes straight)... that is fan loyalty...
d) 3 minutes left in a canucks game and 1/3 of the arena is empty... people dont care... they got work in the morning... ---- now i know there are many die hard fans who would stay till the end... but you are the minority. people get tickets and just go to the game for the sake of going. leafs/flames/oilers/canadiens' fans stay till the end. how many times do you hear a weaka*s "go canucks go" chant... maybe 2-3 times MAX. any other market... constant cheers for their team. (montreal fans "oleee oleee" "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye")

again, there are many people that love the canucks and support them... but there are VERY few people in this town as a whole who really care abou this team. how easy was it to get tickets when the team sucked... soo easy. now its hard but there mostly just sold to people that want to be canuck fans just for the sake of saying it.

a lot of desi people i noticed, "canucks game ohni aaj"... they don't know the first thing about hockey but are supporting the team right now because its the 'thing to do'... its not a passion...its just something to do. if the team was not doing so well... they wouldn't even mention them.

if you think sundin was the missing peice... you need to look at that puzzle one more time and relize that there are a few more peices missing.

p.s
i love the canucks... but im realistic.

All these points that you make can be applied to the other Canadian markets, or any market in the NHL. Now, Id just like to reply to a couple of your comments ...
Firstly, yes, GM Place has been sold out for ages, and half of the arena is actually filled with Canucks jerseys', shirts', and other items. Only jacks rock the Ed Hardy, and Armani to the Canucks games.

Secondly, if you actually watched the retiring of Trevor Linden, they gave him a standing ovation for a long time, to the point where John Shorthouse has to try to speak over them. Even when he was speaking, they were cheering.

Thirdly, one third of the arena is usually empty when the outcome of the game is evident --- ie. if canucks are losing BIG time. Usually, many of the fans are there till the 3 stars are announced.

Next, there been been no case like the one you brought up of Saku Koviu in Vancouver? The closest thing that I could think of was either when Naslund broke his leg and came back for the Team awards during the last game of the season in 05. The Canucks fans cheered for minutes. Canucks fans show love to their players. --- You may not here the Montreal chants, but trust me during the game there are plenty of chants that go on -- ie. Whenever Luongo makes a save --- Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

Just thought Id point those out hahaha. I still think Sundin is a good fit, but I think the Canucks need one more top 6 forward in their line up, and healthy Luongo to do serious damage in the playoffs.

 

[Guppi Top Da]

good man janjy.

only canuck fans would cheer "LUUUUUUUU" after every single save. every single time... but thats just how vancouver is... easily excited... young. thats how the city of vancouver is. while everyone else beleives there is no success unless you win a cup... we just like getting by and cheering whenever we can. its cute... im glad i live here and not in toronto

ithay lokhi... bas khush ah. sarey jaaney happy ah, canucks jithan jaa haaran... koi fark nai pehnda. thats why a lot of players like playing here... its the most beautiful city in the world lol... they just wanna kick back and setup a life.

cheering while shorty is talking... is different. man, linden grabs the mic... people shouldnt even let him talk....

ya linden was great to vancouver... but thats how vancouver is... we dont care abou cups... we just care about guys like linden "good guys"... hes got great stats with the canucks... and remember hes been here a really long time...
we honor good guys like linden, while other teams honor heros that bring them cups.

 

[- Raja -]

H.Sedin...Sundin...D.Sedin

Swedishhhhhhhhhhhhh gameee! thats what i wanna see..but to break it to the canuks fans..they are not going to make it to the cuppp...and toronto sucks too..p.s Conklin layed a smack down on the sharks fan today

 

[Dhesi]

I understand and agree with the posts above how so many Canucks fans are BS. Janj, we've had this discussion many a times! GTD's right, being a Canuck fan in Vancouver, for many, is a social move. It's an accepted and praised hobby. Especially during playoffs you see it the most, people who know nothing about hockey start to jump on Canuck-bandwagons. What we have to realize though is that every team has these people: we just see it so much with Canuck fans because we live here. I guarantee you, that you can go to any city and hear their real fans bi+ching about their fake fans. Fake fans take so much away from the game, but what can you really do about them, other than look and laugh. Think about last year for a second, all those people that came running out onto Scott and 72nd: how many of them do you think actually sat and watched all three periods? how many of them have ever watched three full periods? In regards to the fans that leave the stands early, I think that's BS! Those people should be tied to their seats! Do you really think you're gonna beat the traffic? You paid good money to come to the game, now sit and watch it til the end, regardless of whether the outcome seems evident or not. You wouldn't go to a movie and leave before the ending because you think you know what will happen, so why do it at a hockey game.
Now, for the Sundin acquisition, this is by no means, the magical solution. First of all, he's a peni$ for making everyone wait for so long. Sundin will not bring the cup to Vancouver. Sundin is definitely going to help the Canucks get farther in the season/postseason, but Canucks will not yet bring home the cup (the Wings will: ps. anyone wanna go watch the winter classic lol). I didn't get the details of the deal, but I don't think he's worth the money that they were willing to pay him when talk was originally happening. Canucks should pick up Gaborik, their d-men should stop getting injured, and Luongo should be Luongo, and then we'll talk about the Cup coming to Vancity!

 

[Dhesi]

Wow, I wrote a lot. Sorry fellas!