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MATURITY... and Facebook Statuses.

Kush

Active Member
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These days it seems like every competition I read a few statuses that are excited about a competition. Reminiscing on people met, places visited, memories made, and unforgettable fun had. And to compliment EVERY one of these posts, I see a match that makes me lose my smile. When we don't place, win, or do well at a competition, we blast competitions, teams, and individuals on Facebook, even "anonymously"? Really guys? Has it come to this? I'm really beginning to believe that the bhangra circuit is devoid of maturity, class, and even slowly loosing its fun.

Teams that put in WEEKS of effort, all kinds of sacrifices, perhaps practice to attempt to better ones ability, knowledge and skill are shot down by snide individuals with their own personal agendas. Judges, "qualified or not", who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior.

It seems to me that the only teams qualified to actually DANCE, are those that DANCE like we want them to. It seems to ME that the only judges qualified to actually JUDGE, are those that JUDGE like we want them to.

Teams and Judges alike should place importance on exactly those aspects that WE believe remain true at heart to what WE define as "proper bhangra". When WE do a gimmick, it is not outside of the standard level of permission in a FOLK bhangra set, but when OTHERS do, a travesty has occurred. Everyone else knows NOTHING about bhangra and should... perhaps shut up and learn how to dance?

...AND to make matters even more comical, we delete the comments of those individuals who disagree with us. We don't wish to have open minds, perspectives, or tolerance. We want OUR ideals, beliefs, and principles to reign supreme. All who do not agree are not worthy...lol. Have your opinions, but only a person who cannot withstand scrutiny and crumbles in the face of debate will hide the comments of their competitors and adversaries. And the only reason to block ones self from observation and questioning is because, when seen upclose, the imperfections become blatantly apparent.

There's a word for this: Pathetic.

It just makes me sad :-\. You know what's funny? I took this offense on behalf of others, and it feels like its been a long time coming. Had to get it off my chest.

God Bless :)
 

Meistro

Asi Shounk Nu Karaiyaan Muschaan Kundiyaan...
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like I said before.....give it oh, five years?....the bhangra scene is going to fade to obscurity.
 

Navkarn

Member
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658
i won't mention any names, but i see these sorts of statuses quite often on FB (especially after comps) and find them rather unnecessary. i don't see the need for such elitists to voice their disrespectful comments via facebook or any other source e.g. btf. it's sad to see that most of these posts come from individuals who reign from very highly respected teams on btf.
 

Navi Sandhu

New Member
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178
I don't even enjoy reading BTF anymore because one elitist comment can just put an entire teams hard work down the drain.
 

terabaap

New Member
Messages
320
Kush said:
These days it seems like every competition I read a few statuses that are excited about a competition. Reminiscing on people met, places visited, memories made, and unforgettable fun had. And to compliment EVERY one of these posts, I see a match that makes me lose my smile. When we don't place, win, or do well at a competition, we blast competitions, teams, and individuals on Facebook, even "anonymously"? Really guys? Has it come to this? I'm really beginning to believe that the bhangra circuit is devoid of maturity, class, and even slowly loosing its fun.

Teams that put in WEEKS of effort, all kinds of sacrifices, perhaps practice to attempt to better ones ability, knowledge and skill are shot down by snide individuals with their own personal agendas. Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior.

It seems to me that the only teams qualified to actually DANCE, are those that DANCE like we want them to. It seems to ME that the only judges qualified to actually JUDGE, are those that JUDGE like we want them to.

Teams and Judges alike should place importance on exactly those aspects that WE believe remain true at heart to what WE define as "proper bhangra". When WE do a gimmick, it is not outside of the standard level of permission in a FOLK bhangra set, but when OTHERS do, a travesty has occurred. Everyone else knows NOTHING about bhangra and should... perhaps shut up and learn how to dance?

...AND to make matters even more comical, we delete the comments of those individuals who disagree with us. We don't wish to have open minds, perspectives, or tolerance. We want OUR ideals, beliefs, and principles to reign supreme. All who do not agree are not worthy...lol. Have your opinions, but only a person who cannot withstand scrutiny and crumbles in the face of debate will hide the comments of their competitors and adversaries. And the only reason to block ones self from observation and questioning is because, when seen upclose, the imperfections become blatantly apparent.

There's a word for this: Pathetic.

It just makes me sad :-\. You know what's funny? I took this offense on behalf of others, and it feels like its been a long time coming. Had to get it off my chest.

God Bless :)
I haven't logged onto BTF in a bit, but I had to log on just to quote this.
Best Post of 2010
 

terabaap

New Member
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320
Nsandhu said:
I don't even enjoy reading BTF anymore because one elitist comment can just put an entire teams hard work down the drain.
For me, it's the comments from respected individuals on this board that make it for me. There is lots of rando bs on this forum regarding comps, judging, etc, but it's a part of any competitive arena.
 

Vick

Member
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990
terabaap said:
Kush said:
These days it seems like every competition I read a few statuses that are excited about a competition. Reminiscing on people met, places visited, memories made, and unforgettable fun had. And to compliment EVERY one of these posts, I see a match that makes me lose my smile. When we don't place, win, or do well at a competition, we blast competitions, teams, and individuals on Facebook, even "anonymously"? Really guys? Has it come to this? I'm really beginning to believe that the bhangra circuit is devoid of maturity, class, and even slowly loosing its fun.

Teams that put in WEEKS of effort, all kinds of sacrifices, perhaps practice to attempt to better ones ability, knowledge and skill are shot down by snide individuals with their own personal agendas. Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior.

It seems to me that the only teams qualified to actually DANCE, are those that DANCE like we want them to. It seems to ME that the only judges qualified to actually JUDGE, are those that JUDGE like we want them to.

Teams and Judges alike should place importance on exactly those aspects that WE believe remain true at heart to what WE define as "proper bhangra". When WE do a gimmick, it is not outside of the standard level of permission in a FOLK bhangra set, but when OTHERS do, a travesty has occurred. Everyone else knows NOTHING about bhangra and should... perhaps shut up and learn how to dance?

...AND to make matters even more comical, we delete the comments of those individuals who disagree with us. We don't wish to have open minds, perspectives, or tolerance. We want OUR ideals, beliefs, and principles to reign supreme. All who do not agree are not worthy...lol. Have your opinions, but only a person who cannot withstand scrutiny and crumbles in the face of debate will hide the comments of their competitors and adversaries. And the only reason to block ones self from observation and questioning is because, when seen upclose, the imperfections become blatantly apparent.

There's a word for this: Pathetic.

It just makes me sad :-\. You know what's funny? I took this offense on behalf of others, and it feels like its been a long time coming. Had to get it off my chest.

God Bless :)
I haven't logged onto BTF in a bit, but I had to log on just to quote this.
Best Post of 2010
haha... A whole 45 days into the year!
 

terabaap

New Member
Messages
320
Vick said:
terabaap said:
Kush said:
These days it seems like every competition I read a few statuses that are excited about a competition. Reminiscing on people met, places visited, memories made, and unforgettable fun had. And to compliment EVERY one of these posts, I see a match that makes me lose my smile. When we don't place, win, or do well at a competition, we blast competitions, teams, and individuals on Facebook, even "anonymously"? Really guys? Has it come to this? I'm really beginning to believe that the bhangra circuit is devoid of maturity, class, and even slowly loosing its fun.

Teams that put in WEEKS of effort, all kinds of sacrifices, perhaps practice to attempt to better ones ability, knowledge and skill are shot down by snide individuals with their own personal agendas. Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior.

It seems to me that the only teams qualified to actually DANCE, are those that DANCE like we want them to. It seems to ME that the only judges qualified to actually JUDGE, are those that JUDGE like we want them to.

Teams and Judges alike should place importance on exactly those aspects that WE believe remain true at heart to what WE define as "proper bhangra". When WE do a gimmick, it is not outside of the standard level of permission in a FOLK bhangra set, but when OTHERS do, a travesty has occurred. Everyone else knows NOTHING about bhangra and should... perhaps shut up and learn how to dance?

...AND to make matters even more comical, we delete the comments of those individuals who disagree with us. We don't wish to have open minds, perspectives, or tolerance. We want OUR ideals, beliefs, and principles to reign supreme. All who do not agree are not worthy...lol. Have your opinions, but only a person who cannot withstand scrutiny and crumbles in the face of debate will hide the comments of their competitors and adversaries. And the only reason to block ones self from observation and questioning is because, when seen upclose, the imperfections become blatantly apparent.

There's a word for this: Pathetic.

It just makes me sad :-\. You know what's funny? I took this offense on behalf of others, and it feels like its been a long time coming. Had to get it off my chest.

God Bless :)
I haven't logged onto BTF in a bit, but I had to log on just to quote this.
Best Post of 2010
haha... A whole 45 days into the year!
Dasss All im saayyiinnnn
 

Pooja

I put the double o in cool.
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I disagree with the original post for many reasons...

"Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior."

Being a judge inherently means you have the credentials, the ability, the level-headed attitude, and several other qualities, but mainly...the credentials...and there's no question of "qualified or not" you need to be qualified if you're a judge...simple.

I'm not going to judge on mature/immature ways to express opinions, but how do you judge a judge? Some of our peers are judges now but their credentials in my opinion are questionable...

Also - this is just an independent post, it really has nothing to do with anything that might be going on which I don't even know of but yea just wanted to make that clear!
 

Meistro

Asi Shounk Nu Karaiyaan Muschaan Kundiyaan...
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a friend and I have decided to play a little game at elite.....every time a team says "WE GOT ROBBED" `at elite, we have to take a shot.....and then laugh at the team.....sounds fun :)
 

Badwal

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Pooja said:
I disagree with the original post for many reasons...

"Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior."

Being a judge inherently means you have the credentials, the ability, the level-headed attitude, and several other qualities, but mainly...the credentials...and there's no question of "qualified or not" you need to be qualified if you're a judge...simple.

I'm not going to judge on mature/immature ways to express opinions, but how do you judge a judge? Some of our peers are judges now but their credentials in my opinion are questionable...

Also - this is just an independent post, it really has nothing to do with anything that might be going on which I don't even know of but yea just wanted to make that clear!


stfu
 

Sonuu

Member
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Badwal said:
Pooja said:
I disagree with the original post for many reasons...

"Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior."

Being a judge inherently means you have the credentials, the ability, the level-headed attitude, and several other qualities, but mainly...the credentials...and there's no question of "qualified or not" you need to be qualified if you're a judge...simple.

I'm not going to judge on mature/immature ways to express opinions, but how do you judge a judge? Some of our peers are judges now but their credentials in my opinion are questionable...

Also - this is just an independent post, it really has nothing to do with anything that might be going on which I don't even know of but yea just wanted to make that clear!


stfu


+1
 

Manjot

Active Member
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Pooja said:
I disagree with the original post for many reasons...

"Judges, qualified or not, who take the time to apply any experience and knowledge, respect performances that have been compiled by all teams, and then do THEIR best to evaluate an entire lineup of a competition, are belittled by those who believe they are in some way superior."

Being a judge inherently means you have the credentials, the ability, the level-headed attitude, and several other qualities, but mainly...the credentials...and there's no question of "qualified or not" you need to be qualified if you're a judge...simple.
I 100% agree with Pooja.
 
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