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NFL Mid season thoughts...

Tarminder

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MVP (as of November 1st): Clinton Portis & Drew Brees

Portis has over 940 rushing yards so far, thats over 200 more rushing yards than the second place rusher in the NFL. Not only that he has the ability to create his own holes when his O'line doesnt produce. His style of running is typical but efficent in a way that stresses pure speed rather than power. I'm surprised with his high level of durability and he is currently tied for second in rushing TD's this year.

Drew Brees: I had to put him along side Portis. Drew Brees is averaging 320 throwing yards per game this year and his TD to INT ratio is solid. Not only that, his ability to motivate his teammates is similar to those of Ray Lewis (if you don't beleive me watch a pre-game on NFL on Fox and they will show you his passion for the game). It was a shame to see Terry Bradshaw not put Brees in his top 5 qb's this year...i hope he regrets his decision. Drew Brees ability to throw the long ball is special, he can throw it 40-50 yards easily and make average wideouts look like superstars.


Surprise (as of November 1st, 2008): Buffalo Bills & Kurt Warner

Buffalo Bills: I live in Toronto and every year we hear how bad the bills are, but this year is different. The Bills D is simply incredible, just as good as their D a few years ago. Trent Edwards is the difference maker, finally buffalo has a QB who they can really depend on. Finally, Marshan Lynch is a power stud...you give him the ball 30 times a day and he will easily get you 100 yards. Not only that, he'll get you the yards that most running backs can't deliver on (throught the trenches, right in the middle of the D).

By the way, i hope the bills don't permanetly come to Toronto becasue the people up here don't truely love NFL football and its culture. Toronto's tailgate parties are a joke.

Kurt Warner: He is over the age of 36 and many have said he was washed up. After he left the Giants many said he was done. Now look at him, he has over 2000 throwing yards up to this date and his TD to INT ratio is incredible (14 tds to 6 ints). I'm surprised he's still playing yet alone still being productive.

This is a bigger issue...whats up with Mat Lienhart? its starting to look like he was a bust.


Disappointment (as of November 1st, 2008) - Seattle, Indy & Jacksonville
I expected all three teams to have atleast 5 wins by now. Indy is dealing with injuries, i have no idea whats going on with jacksonville and Seattle needs a running game. I hope all these teams can tuirn the tide and start winning more games.

(by the way, why is everyone sayin the Cowboys are a disapointment? they will win 11 games and lose in the playoffs again. Howie Long from Fox sports said this the best --> "the cowboys need a LEADER" -- good luck finding one in Big D).


I agree with someone else on this form on who should be rookie of the year: Steve Slaton. "I think for the team he is on, he has shown some amazing things. Matt forte and Chris Johnson are up there, but Chris Johnson has White and an insane defense, as does Forte. I just think right now , Steve Slaton 1, Chris Johnson 1a, and Matt forte 2, have to put D jack up there too...But slaton, wow, is a beast."


Defensive: Mr. Tuck from the G-men -- he has steped it up and taking the lead on that Giants D. He's an aggressive guy on the field who doesnt get the big play, but he does the little things well like getting efficent tackles and tiping the ball from time to time....whenever you watch a giants game you know he's a difference maker.

I'm reading a lot on the 49'ers. My take on this is simple...the NFL needs to impliment a policy that restricts teams to giving a lot of money to rookies, look what happend with Alex Smith and te 49ers.

THe 49'ers have a lot of great history and they will start winnng again the future but they need to get their finances straight. The owner needs to hold the finance/accountants for that organization accountable and build on defense, and an offensive line. Over the past 5 years i've seen the 9ers and Lions take the same approach in their draft picks (pick primarily Offensive players) i feel this was a mistake. Invest in a proper Oline to protect the qb a help establish an efficient running game. Invest in defensive ends, tackles and cornerbacks.


Shoutouts ---> Marvin Harrison and Issac Bruce & some of the old school players....i grew up watching you guys, i hope you guys continue to get the job done, its a shame you guys don't get more attention from the media and fans.


Best story: Matt Millen FINALLY GETS FIRED! , Aaron Rogers success, Lendaine Whites 10td's , Jason Campbels efficiency in the pocket, & my St. Louis Rams winning a game on the same weekend as Bhangra Nation ;)
 

gifty

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Tarminder,

You said Seattle needs a running game........hmmm, that is one of our last worries. We have no receivers, our qb is out...and from talking to some others about his injury situation.....a big chance that it's career ending.....My P.T. told me that it would be a miracle if he came back next year.....and most likely his career is done....Defense has potential to be great, but doesn't produce on the field consistently, but that is mainly due to the fact they stay on the field for so damn long. Injury's have torn this team apart in and out. I will not give up on the season, until statically we are eliminated from the playoffs, weirder shit has happened in the NFL, who knows right?
 

Tarminder

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Fair point made, Seattle is 32nd in the league in passing yards and normally that has been key part of their success.
If your qb (matt hasslebacks) career is almost over then play out the season without him and draft a qb or trade for one, simple as that.

I really hope that D has potential because this year here are there stats (as of Nov. 1st)

TOTAL POINTS GIVEN UP PER GAME
26.3
(25th)

TOTAL YARDS GIVEN UP
367.0
(27th)

PASS YDS
245.3
(30th)

RUSH YDS
121.7
(22nd)

- The reason why D's stay on the field to long is because they need to stop beleiving in the "bend but don't break d" (St. Louis Rams still do this) and when that theory is put into place it potentially makes the D players a little "lazy"
- Being extremely aggresive in D is a great thing (in my opinion) however it can lead to giving up the big 40-50 yards play. Defense is a complex system and if you want to find a team that has great D check out the Steelers.

Anything can happen in the NFL, i.e the 9ers comming back from a 20 points against the g-men back in the day (amazing game). With that said, the NFC East is legit and i don't see Seattle having a better record than anyone of those teams.
 

gifty

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I don't see Seattle doing anything this year. Our defense is small, just like Tampa's and Indy's, we almost run the same type of defense like Tampa's cover 2. If we stay on the field longer, we get worn out. They stay on the field longer than every team in the NFL besides the LIONS. Stats are nice, but they never tell the whole story.....And if you don't believe we have potential, you obviously don't know the team, let alone who plays for them. So your speculation is based on pure stats.

The WCO isn't easily grasped. It has a learning curve, that usually takes some while to learn. It's easy to say...O just draft a qb, but there are quite the amount of things that go into drafting a qb. His mechanics, leadership, durability, learning curve, etc.

Not every qb can fit our offense, even with Holmgrem leaving, Mora being his predecessor, we will still be running a version of the WCO.

To add to not having a better record then the NFC East...Even if that doesn't happen and we win the division....Seattle makes the Playoffs, and the last team in the NFC won't.

The COWBOYS will NOT win 11 win games, they would have to basically have to win out the whole season, and with the NFC east being so terribly hard, it would be nearly impossible to do that. They could be at best 10-6, 9-7. Wild card team....
 

Tarminder

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When pre-season hits in the NFL any team beleives they have the opportunity of getting into the playoffs and during the regular season you see teams that you normally don't expect to win (Atlanta, Arizona, Tennesse, Washington, Buffalo, etc). I assume next year or the year after Seattle will bounce back and make the playoffs, good to stay positive.

Sure you got to look at his mechanics, leadership, durability, learning curve, etc. when drafting a qb and i bet the coaches/gm in Seattle will do just that this off-season.

I'm about to go watch the Cowboys vs. Giants game, if the Cowboys win this game they got a legit shot to win 11, but if not then my earlier prediction will probably not happen.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
 

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Gurvir said:
GO Giantss!!!!!!...they have a winning chance again this year
Brandon Jacobs is having an amazing year so far. He is a power runner who's tough to tackle. A guy like him will be extremely successfull in close games because he will get the right amount of yards to move the first down chains.

Eli has come a long way, you can see he has a lot more confidence in this throws. Kind of surprised to see the Burress situation not negatively impacting the play of the g-men, hope they can keep it up.

I admit, i thought they would lose to the Cowboyz but i was wrong, I want to see the Gaints face off against the Redskins, i think that would be another amazing game.
 

Tarminder

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How about dem Titans?

Did anyone see the KC vs. San Diego game today? Anyone surprised to see KC go for the 2 point conversion at the end of the game? I understand why they went for it but i would have kicked the extra point.
 

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Vick said:
Niners on Monday Night baby.... finallyyyyyyyyy....
I'm a huge advocate for Singletary, but that last 30 seconds of playcalling/time management was some of the worst shit I've seen in a while. I guess the onus is on Martz for that pitiful crap...49ers shoulda had that game.
 

SunnyR

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okay, can someone please explain to me what just happened at the end of that game?!?!?!?

what the hell man, i seriously almost had tears in my eyes watching that....c'mon singletary & martz, what were you thinking??? running the ball with 4 seconds left, no timeouts, from the 2 1/2 yard line UP THE MIDDLE!?!?!?!
 

Vick

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Sunny I dont know what to tell you man, welcome to the world of incompetent 49er football... Just when I thought we might actually turn the corner, we took 23 steps backwards... That was the worst 1:45 time management I have ever seen... It took nearly 25 seconds to spike the damn ball... My roommate and I are huge niner fans, I think we both shed some tears internally last night, it has to be one of the saddest moments since the days when the Cowboys raped us every year in the NFC championship games...
 

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I cannot believe you guys called a fullback dive with a guy the size of dante hall...one skinny mo'fo
Why does it seem like almost every team in California right now is a huge pile of shit
Chargers, Raiders, Niners....
 

Vick

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According to our f*ckin so called genius offensive coordinator Mike Martz, he "thought" the ball was on the 1 f*ckin yard line... How f*ckin retarded can you be, your telling me that every f*ckin coach with a headset on thought the ball was on the 1 f*ckin yard line? What are the f*ckin f*ck bags in the booth upstairs doing not informing martz where the f*ck that damn ball is... I think it's all a coverup, Martz knows he royally f*cked it up and he's just putting the blame on the refs... As an offensive coordinator, you have to f*ckin know where the ball is... f*ckkkkkkkkkkkk...
 
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