Official 2010 FIFA World Cup Poll/Discussion !

[Basim]

How does that offside rule work?? It doesn't make sense to me. I've played organized soccer for 11 years, and never had that rule enforced. If you're on a 2-on-2 breakaway (one fullback and goalie on D), as long as you break past the FB after the ball is passed you're onsides. So its just you vs the goalie. I thought the Mexico forward was onsides when the pass was made past the goalie? I'm trying to find a replay but I dont have access to youtube at work

I hope this article helps a bit: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/blog?entryID=5275929&name=worldcup2010blog&cc=5901&ver=us

You really need to watch the replay, read what I wrote in my previous post, and follow along with that article.

This type of situation doesn't happen that often, making the rule even more confusing. Usually what happens (as you stated in your example), the goalie is in his box and there is one fullback that determines the "offside line." In this situation, the roles were switched between the goalie and fullback (think of South Africa's last fullback, Steven Pienaar, as the goalie since he was closest to the goal line & the South Africa's goalie, Itumeleng Khun, as the last fullback). Since after the corner kick was taken, the "offside line" was determined by the goalie Khun (remember they switched roles) and Mexico's last attacker Vega was past the goalie, it was an offside (the correct call).

Like I said in my previous post, if it was a direct shot into the goal (without Vega being past the goalie), the ball would have still went in and it would have been a legitimate goal.

Hope that somewhat helps Imran,

~ Basim

 

[dholi sabz]

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[COMTONDAJATT]

refs miss a handball call on uruguay at the end. tough angle i guess. good game.

 

[Raman Dholi]

france by far the better team...glad they didnt win tho
dont think it was a handball anyway...non intentional and his hand was close to his body too
france dont deserve to get any handball calls based on the way they made it to the world up in my opinion

 

[yraparla]

refs miss a handball call on uruguay at the end. tough angle i guess. good game.

Yea I dunno, he kind of tucked his elbows in. I was always taught that tucking your arms usually means the play doesn't get called even if it impedes the balls progress

 

[[Sher] Imran]

France can't complain, they skirted into the World Cup with the infamous Hand of Gaul

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

France can't complain, they skirted into the World Cup with the infamous Hand of Gaul

true but 2 wrongs dont make right. the next group matches will be really interesting.

 

[dhamijatt]

brasil and no that isn't bandwagon

and i'll give the englandi's some love too

 

[GSingh]

where's the Indian team? lol with so much emphasis on "futtbahl"

 

[Syra-KiranDhaliwal]

BRAZIL, got this

 

[sukh492]

why is Netherlands not on the poll list

 

[Ak_Di_Nishani]

why is Netherlands not on the poll list

I believe holland is the netherlands...

 

[ameetkhabra]

Why not make your predictions from each group? Let's see how well you can predict wins/losses.

My picks are as follows:

Group A: 1) France 2) Mexico
Group B: 1) Argentina 2) Nigeria (Messi is BEAST)
Group C: 1) England 2) USA
Group D: 1) Germany 2) Ghana (Tough choice between Australia,Ghana, & Sebia.. I went with a sleeper team & the crowd favorite to advance from this group)
Group E:1) Netherlands 2) Cameroon (Tough choice between Denmark & Cameroon.. but I had to go with the strongest African country that qualified. A lot will rely on the chemistry between Eto'o, Song, and Makoun)
Group F: 1)Italy 2) Paraguay
Group G: 1) BRAZIL!! 2) Portugal (I still can't believe the Brazil's coach chose to leave Ronaldinho off the starting lineup.. pisses me off, since he's one of my favorite players. Tough choice between Portugal & Ivory Coast.. let's hope Ronaldo can step up their offense)
Group H: 1) Spain 2) Chile

It would be awesome to see Brazil vs Argentina in the finals, with Brazil getting the gold!

~ Basim

Group A: France & Mexico
Group B: Argentina & I Dont Know . . .
Group C: England & USA
Group D: Germany & Cant Decide . . .
Group E: Netherlands & Denmark
Group F: Italy & Paraguay
Group G: Brazil & Portugal
Group H: Spain & Chile

Our predictions are pretty much the same - except the finals will be Italy & some loser team

 

[eicherjatt]

Spain and Brazil in the finals!! Spain to win it all

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

nigeria very sloppy to start. argentina is up 1-0 but could easily be 3-0 if they converted some easy chances.

 

[Varunlovestofolk]

IVORY COAST BABY!! thy gonna come hard..sucks DROGBA hurt his arm..but hes a soldier!!

 

[Badwal]

Nigeria's Goalie used hacks, hes tooooooooooo goood

 

[MPElive]

Don't forget about the golden chances Nigeria had as it could have ended up in a tie game. Messi should have easily scored 2-3 goals.

Greece looked unorganized against South Koreans as the Koreans played tactical.

I am predicting Englandiz to win over U.S.. 3-1 is my prediction

 

[Basim]

nigeria very sloppy to start. argentina is up 1-0 but could easily be 3-0 if they converted some easy chances.

Don't forget about the golden chances Nigeria had as it could have ended up in a tie game. Messi should have easily scored 2-3 goals.

Very true. I can't believe that in 88 minutes AFTER that first goal, Argentina could not score another one, despite dominating the attack throughout the game. They had complete ball control and more than double shots-on-goal than Nigeria. They need to work on their finishing because they definitely will not have as many chances against tougher teams.

Nigeria definitely needs to step up their game if they plan to make it out of their group.

~ Basim

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

i just got done watching a recording of the korea-greece game and korea is impressive. dark horse of the tourney? they seem to have excellent chemistry.