pet peeves in bhangra

[bballkid2592]

high chaddars
fake turlas
separate giddha sequences
no facial hair
milking the crowd with played out stunts
bad form

on the mark with those two my son.

To add to that, people not going with the flow of the music. All of you have probably seen those guys who dance like their at a robotics competition or some shit like that. Someone needs to (0:09) the michael jackson out of them right there on the spot, end of story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiwXb26mloQ

 

[bballkid2592]

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[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]on the mark with those two my son.[/font]
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[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]To add to that, people not going with the flow of the music. All of you have probably seen those guys who dance like their at a robotics competition or some shit like that. Someone needs to (0:09) the michael jackson out of them right there on the spot, end of story.[/font]
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[bballkid2592]

whoops failled at that...copied the wrong txt...but yeah look at that

 

[MrSangha]

Paagan Falling off.

 

[apbhangra]

too many gimmiks or tricks, its important to add a lil bit of flavor and what not to the preformance but too much takes away from the bhangra itself.

 

[Richa]

my biggest pet peeves are probably
1. going half live and half music
2. dancing live when u cant even pull off a good set
3. 2 piece pughan
4. when ppl kick there legs out to the side (not diagonal)
5. gimmicks
6. when teams dance on stage drunk/high
7. kicking or stepping on props
8. stunts

yaaa i have way too much ocd haha

 

[Mojo]

When people don't take a team seriously just because there are non-Indian people on the team claiming that it's "not traditional enough"
Anyone can make a mistake. When a non-Indian dancer makes a mistake, it's not because they're not Indian. Being "born" into it may give you more experience that foreigners, but it doesn't make you inherently better than them. I really hate when someone's dancing is judged based on them "being a gora" and not on the technical quality of their performance.

 

[Gurbir23]

When people don't take a team seriously just because there are non-Indian people on the team claiming that it's "not traditional enough"
Anyone can make a mistake. When a non-Indian dancer makes a mistake, it's not because they're not Indian. Being "born" into it may give you more experience that foreigners, but it doesn't make you inherently better than them. I really hate when someone's dancing is judged based on them "being a gora" and not on the technical quality of their performance.

i dont find this to be the case from what ive seen. Usually when a team has a person of another ethnicity, the reaction is usually...holy fuck, that gora/kala/cheena is doing bhangra..SICK. I remember when i was watching AEG's elite 8 video, i was like whoa wait, what, is that red jori white...holy shit....theyre friggin awesome!

 

[Mojo]

When people don't take a team seriously just because there are non-Indian people on the team claiming that it's "not traditional enough"
Anyone can make a mistake. When a non-Indian dancer makes a mistake, it's not because they're not Indian. Being "born" into it may give you more experience that foreigners, but it doesn't make you inherently better than them. I really hate when someone's dancing is judged based on them "being a gora" and not on the technical quality of their performance.

i dont find this to be the case from what ive seen. Usually when a team has a person of another ethnicity, the reaction is usually...holy fuck, that gora/kala/cheena is doing bhangra..SICK. I remember when i was watching AEG's elite 8 video, i was like whoa wait, what, is that red jori white...holy shit....theyre friggin awesome!

Yeah, usually it is like that, and that's great, but unfortunately I've also come across the kind of people I described in my original post. It's sad and rude and it really just makes the person doing the bashing look like an idiot. But definitely, most people are very cool with it and can appreciate a good dancer regardless. It's the few that can't that bother me.

 

[Nirpaal]

These have probably been said...to lazy to read everything:
- Lip Syncing
- Dancing to songs that don't make sense, i.e girls teams dancing to songs about kundiyan mouchan.
- Improper use and placement of steps (can't remember how many times I've seen teams use a kundiyan mouch move to a song that has no relevance to it)

Also, song selection is a pet peeve. Mixes should flow in terms of the songs you use, not really down with constantly random changing of the pace of a set (fast song, than slow song, than fast song, than another slow song).

 

[bagmi]

i dunno if the dari should matter here in the US- since most guys are not just dancing the entire time, people have to shave for jobs, interviews, etc.

but on pet peeve topic: not a big fan of people that dance with a half-hearted smile plastered on their face and no real nakhra otherwise. Dancing is done with the whole body and something you should enjoy with your whole body. I'm not saying go crazy and bend over backwards at random, but put a little umph into it.

 

[KalaShere]

When people don't take a team seriously just because there are non-Indian people on the team claiming that it's "not traditional enough"
Anyone can make a mistake. When a non-Indian dancer makes a mistake, it's not because they're not Indian. Being "born" into it may give you more experience that foreigners, but it doesn't make you inherently better than them. I really hate when someone's dancing is judged based on them "being a gora" and not on the technical quality of their performance.

i dont find this to be the case from what ive seen. Usually when a team has a person of another ethnicity, the reaction is usually...holy fuck, that gora/kala/cheena is doing bhangra..SICK. I remember when i was watching AEG's elite 8 video, i was like whoa wait, what, is that red jori white...holy shit....theyre friggin awesome!

Yeah, usually it is like that, and that's great, but unfortunately I've also come across the kind of people I described in my original post. It's sad and rude and it really just makes the person doing the bashing look like an idiot. But definitely, most people are very cool with it and can appreciate a good dancer regardless. It's the few that can't that bother me.

Whenever You come across those closed-minded types..call me and I'll set them straight lol (or better yet call BOTH Joes (AEG) and me haha Its a shame but there are those kinds of ppl in this world; I shrug it off with the mindset that they're not worth my time..my passion (i.e. bhangra ) IS =)

Danny

 

[Gurbir23]

biggest pet peeve EVER:

it makes me cringe when it happens, but "modern" teams LOVE to do this:

Randomly doing jugni to a song thats fast/upbeat enough to do a saap segment to or throwing in jugni/chaal right after doing punjab using the same song...but in addition to that, usually their arms are at perfectly robotic 90 degrees/180 degrees angles, and just for good measure, the extreme rocking of the shoulders back and forth is thrown in there.

No hate to modern teams, keep doing your thing but alot (but not all) love to do this

 

[Mojo]

When people don't take a team seriously just because there are non-Indian people on the team claiming that it's "not traditional enough"
Anyone can make a mistake. When a non-Indian dancer makes a mistake, it's not because they're not Indian. Being "born" into it may give you more experience that foreigners, but it doesn't make you inherently better than them. I really hate when someone's dancing is judged based on them "being a gora" and not on the technical quality of their performance.

i dont find this to be the case from what ive seen. Usually when a team has a person of another ethnicity, the reaction is usually...holy fuck, that gora/kala/cheena is doing bhangra..SICK. I remember when i was watching AEG's elite 8 video, i was like whoa wait, what, is that red jori white...holy shit....theyre friggin awesome!

Yeah, usually it is like that, and that's great, but unfortunately I've also come across the kind of people I described in my original post. It's sad and rude and it really just makes the person doing the bashing look like an idiot. But definitely, most people are very cool with it and can appreciate a good dancer regardless. It's the few that can't that bother me.

Whenever You come across those closed-minded types..call me and I'll set them straight lol (or better yet call BOTH Joes (AEG) and me haha Its a shame but there are those kinds of ppl in this world; I shrug it off with the mindset that they're not worth my time..my passion (i.e. bhangra ) IS =)

Danny

Haha yeaaaaaaah boiiiiiii


Firangi Pride!!
While it bothers me when people do that, usually I just challenge them to see if they can really put their money where their mouth is. They usually don't leave so smug, if you know what I mean .

 

[campy614]

My biggest pet peeve: ignorance.

Lemme give an example. This one time I attended a team mixer, not saying where-when-or even if I was dancing, and some girl sitting 3 seats next to me associated with the competition says to a girl next to her-word for word-"Ugh that's AEG's f*king gora." I also remember going to another competition, not dancing-just watching, and an onlooker behind me turns to her girlfriends and says-again word for word-"Oh look a white guy. I guess they're trying to fill their quota."

Something I've learned and preached is to get tough skin, esp to new up-and-coming non punjabi dancers. As much as shoving your Rockports up someone's behind sounds like a good idea, it isn't (you'll damage your shoes). Forget about people being accepting because the sad reality is that they won't be. But you are not obligated to prove anything to anyone (even if your BTF-whore teammates claim you do), so it shouldn't be a worry on your mind. Do you. If you like dancing, what should you care about simple bitches? Let 'em hate.

Also, don't be afraid to be yourself. You don't have to pretend to be brown to gain acceptance. Practice hard and do well-THAT's how you gain acceptance. If you are like me and facial hair just doesn't work for you, there is no obligation to stand in front of a mirror for a half an hour and draw in a dari with eyeliner. However many years later and neither Joey nor I have ever even considered it.

Lastly, HAVE FUN! Isn't this the reason you got into this whole thing to begin with? If it isn't, then I think you're in it for the wrong reasons.

Wanna read something kind of interesting? You'd think Toronto-out of all places-would be the least accepting of some white kid like me dancing. The irony is that I've gotten the best feedback there-from judges, to audience members, to other competing teams. Too bad I can't say that about American (ironic point II). Too bad I can't say the same thing about New York, America's melting pot and my hometown (ironic point III). One of the examples I listed above did happen at a New York competition, but I'll keep which one to myself.

 

[Gurbir23]

My biggest pet peeve: ignorance.

Lemme give an example. This one time I attended a team mixer, not saying where-when-or even if I was dancing, and some girl sitting 3 seats next to me associated with the competition says to a girl next to her-word for word-"Ugh that's AEG's f*king gora." I also remember going to another competition, not dancing-just watching, and an onlooker behind me turns to her girlfriends and says-again word for word-"Oh look a white guy. I guess they're trying to fill their quota."

Something I've learned and preached is to get tough skin, esp to new up-and-coming non punjabi dancers. As much as shoving your Rockports up someone's behind sounds like a good idea, it isn't (you'll damage your shoes). Forget about people being accepting because the sad reality is that they won't be. But you are not obligated to prove anything to anyone (even if your BTF-whore teammates claim you do), so it shouldn't be a worry on your mind. Do you. If you like dancing, what should you care about simple bitches? Let 'em hate.

Also, don't be afraid to be yourself. You don't have to pretend to be brown to gain acceptance. Practice hard and do well-THAT's how you gain acceptance. If you are like me and facial hair just doesn't work for you, there is no obligation to stand in front of a mirror for a half an hour and draw in a dari with eyeliner. However many years later and neither Joey nor I have ever even considered it.

Lastly, HAVE FUN! Isn't this the reason you got into this whole thing to begin with? If it isn't, then I think you're in it for the wrong reasons.

Wanna read something kind of interesting? You'd think Toronto-out of all places-would be the least accepting of some white kid like me dancing. The irony is that I've gotten the best feedback there-from judges, to audience members, to other competing teams. Too bad I can't say that about American (ironic point II). Too bad I can't say the same thing about New York, America's melting pot and my hometown (ironic point III). One of the examples I listed above did happen at a New York competition, but I'll keep which one to myself.

Us toronto folk are just happy to see a white guy, let alone a white guy that does bhangra!.....the latter usually calls for celebration lol

 

[kpanesar]

when people copy someones move or set !

 

[Mojo]

My biggest pet peeve: ignorance.

Lemme give an example. This one time I attended a team mixer, not saying where-when-or even if I was dancing, and some girl sitting 3 seats next to me associated with the competition says to a girl next to her-word for word-"Ugh that's AEG's f*king gora." I also remember going to another competition, not dancing-just watching, and an onlooker behind me turns to her girlfriends and says-again word for word-"Oh look a white guy. I guess they're trying to fill their quota."

Something I've learned and preached is to get tough skin, esp to new up-and-coming non punjabi dancers. As much as shoving your Rockports up someone's behind sounds like a good idea, it isn't (you'll damage your shoes). Forget about people being accepting because the sad reality is that they won't be. But you are not obligated to prove anything to anyone (even if your BTF-whore teammates claim you do), so it shouldn't be a worry on your mind. Do you. If you like dancing, what should you care about simple bitches? Let 'em hate.

Also, don't be afraid to be yourself. You don't have to pretend to be brown to gain acceptance. Practice hard and do well-THAT's how you gain acceptance. If you are like me and facial hair just doesn't work for you, there is no obligation to stand in front of a mirror for a half an hour and draw in a dari with eyeliner. However many years later and neither Joey nor I have ever even considered it.

Lastly, HAVE FUN! Isn't this the reason you got into this whole thing to begin with? If it isn't, then I think you're in it for the wrong reasons.

Wanna read something kind of interesting? You'd think Toronto-out of all places-would be the least accepting of some white kid like me dancing. The irony is that I've gotten the best feedback there-from judges, to audience members, to other competing teams. Too bad I can't say that about American (ironic point II). Too bad I can't say the same thing about New York, America's melting pot and my hometown (ironic point III). One of the examples I listed above did happen at a New York competition, but I'll keep which one to myself.

As a fellow Gora, I really appreciate your encouraging words. Hearing them from someone on a team like AEG gives me a lot of hope for the future of my team. We're a young team that has recently undergone some major changes and, while we are making huge improvements, sometimes it feels like we can never hope to break into the big leagues. I adore my team and I'll put in as many hours as we need to continue improving. I don't want to be treated differently because I'm white, because I don't feel differently. I love bhangra with more intensity and more fire than many Indians I know. It is my passion and no one can challenge my devotion to it and to my team. I don't want any "passes" for not being Indian. Hold me to the same standards, because I know I am more than capable of holding my own against even the fiercest Punjaban in the same way you have proven to be more than a match for any Punjabi Jodi.


Thanks again. At least for me, it means a lot for you to take the time out to say stuff like this
Brrraahhhhhhh!

 

[faizan]

All guy teams still don't have adequate pugh tiers. I had 3 of my non-main pugh tiers breaking their thumbs at boston for several teams...these teams had no pugh tiers, and the ones that did, had pugh tiers who were not all that great. It's 2010, if you want a bhangra team, get a pugh tier...other teams will not bail you out forever...notice how shitty the pugh situation on stage was at boston and you'll see what i mean...it takes like 1 week to learn how to tie a decent pugh, no more excuses...it was surprising to see that many of the people who needed pugh help were prominent btf people...come on guys, it's time to figure it out on your own...

 

[yraparla]

All guy teams still don't have adequate pugh tiers. I had 3 of my non-main pugh tiers breaking their thumbs at boston for several teams...these teams had no pugh tiers, and the ones that did, had pugh tiers who were not all that great. It's 2010, if you want a bhangra team, get a pugh tier...other teams will not bail you out forever...notice how shitty the pugh situation on stage was at boston and you'll see what i mean...it takes like 1 week to learn how to tie a decent pugh, no more excuses...it was surprising to see that many of the people who needed pugh help were prominent btf people...come on guys, it's time to figure it out on your own...

Similarly, dancing with a poorly tied pagh and not taking it off. Ya it's unraveling, it happens, it's not a huge deal. Looking like an idiot and having a turla over your eyes just irritates me and a lot of people. Captains need to educate their guys to suck it up and go off to the side and take the pagh off respectfully. You aren't impressive by dancing when you can't see. Even if you don't agree with the community standard of elevating paghs beyond vardi, you HAVE to agree that it's distracting/looks stupid to dance while your pagh is falling apart. I'm always surprised when established teams have this problem. It's one of the first thing we tell our guys when we discuss paghs