the organization of the comeptition was great. something other comps should look at as an example as. live streaming of the comp was also a very good idea. however the teams lacked at their choreo and execution of their performances. when we look at bhangra idols we see it as being the face changer of bhangra and evolving bhangra to the next level(nj @ 2006), however nothing really set any of the teams apart from eachother. we saw the same stuff repeated over and over again. chikay,kundaye,jhummat,fast song, dhaamla. sgpd same performance from big apple and from jawani, not the same sgpd it was before lacked creativity, enegry and a smile on their face. jawani girls, expected much better, horrible song choice, and they never added their touch to their performance which always sets them apart, they became just like the other teams. panj, a huge disappointment, the stage presence was horrible, their was a huge mess infront of the stage, and their were enough mistakes that were made during the performance which clearly showed they were not going to place. kohinoor not fun to watch at all. others teams were medicore nothing too great besides doing the same stuff on different songs. this folk business keeping ur shyt folk in my opioin is really killing bhangra. teams are getting more more sloppy doing the same things, nothing is really setting anyone apart. every team should have their own say of what they want to show, their needs to be more personality in teams performances. huge disappointment from the teams. folk is good only first if u can master the foundation of it the folk bhangra STEPS, NOT THE FOLK BHANGRA DANCES. people just throw on a dhammal beat and start throwing their hands and legs in their without learning the basic foundations on what to do. That in a dhamaal moving ur shoulder and widening ur body is much more important than having a challenge in who can lift their legs the highest. if this stays up bhangra will die with its folkness for sure.
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Re: Discussion of Bhangra Scene after Idols 2010
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See: ABC. They really did a great job no question, but they had a distinct style last year that i think made them memorable and was an asset to the circuit. I know a lot of people much preferred their style this time though, so it's a bit of a balance maybeArjun said:
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SGPD definitely set a high standard for themselves in the past by bringing out a brand new set for each competition. But BAB was exactly 2 months ago (August 6th), name one team on the circuit that would be able to bring a completely new routine in 2 months. Yeah we all wish we could have seen yet another new SGPD set, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they killed it on stage at Idols with a 50-60% new routine. Show a little respect for the team that continues to raise the bar.sgrewal30 said:
That being said, I think Rana.R was definitely getting somewhere with that post. Idols was the first competition of this season and it was the perfect example of what people have been saying for a while - the bhangra scene is going downhill. Teams need to stop trying to follow a cookie-cutter standard for routines and start actually using their creativity. The idiots on BTF who will rip you apart for being "modern" or "so not folk" are a small subset of the bhangra scene, and there's a huge difference between what you read here and what the crowd AND judges appreciate when they see a performance live. India teams bring more creativity than what we're seeing from teams now, so step it up and bring North American bhangra back to something that can still be enjoyed by everyone.
you guys are blinded by this folk strap that u guys put across ur eyes. sgpd the team that raises the bar, jawani girls a team that inspires other girls, kohinoor keeping the folkness alive, every team should have their own purpose on stage. everyones purpose shudnt be keepiing folk bhangra alive, let it evolve and change. the more it evolves and changes the bigger it grows. a perfect example would be last night. its was a waste of time watching the same thing over and over again. their shud be a new rrule with comps that no team can use 60% of their old routine. which makes the comeptition more fair. the only team i can think of on the circuit that goes out with a new routine would be nachdi jawani. watch their masti routine and then dda complete change in 2 weeks imagine if they had 2 months (this shudnt be an excuse, if ur the team that raises the bar and chants like they own the bhangra circuit then their is no space for error, every performance u do should be ur best and the best compared to other teams in the circuit). teams that were elite are not always gonna stay elite, we need to make them realize that hey we're bored of the same shyt u present on stage. during each performance from last nght, tell me one performance where the crowd was going crazy for the team. which was none unless they had their spirit squad. this should be signal on its own, that we as bhangra dancers are entertainers. we go and entertain people, so we need to do things that will inspire people to come back and watch us again, last night i would have wanted a refund for my ticket. we are in year 2010 and our bhangra feels like it has stopped evovling since year 2006. hopefully the next few comps will be more interesting to watch. folk = boredom, regular dhamaal on any song = boredom, jugni on any song= boredom, teams need to add their twist when presenting these various dances of bhangra. keep ur foundation folk but add some modern touch to it or even a touch that will make ur dhamaal look different then the other 10 teams dhamaals.
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For a set like SGPD.. yes it is a problem. A lot of them obviously had school, work, and I doubt they can start a new routine right after coming back from NYC from BAB. And its not like they used the exact same routine, at least 50-60% of it was new.faizan said:
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Lol, a brand new GOOD set executed as well as they execute in 2 months is NOT easy, for any team. not impossible, but def not "no problem".AnkurK said:
Ankur, they changed from Masti to BAB because they felt they failed/fell short at Masti. And STILL you saw elements brought to BAB (shikke ninja kick for example). You even saw some elements reworked for idols! The hanging khunde.
Dheerja's post times 1,000. If you do a style, do it because you like it/want to do it and NOT BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE NORM! If you look like everyone else, you won't ever stand out.
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Yea exactly, people that think two months is enough to make a competition routine need to think over the quality of the routines they make..
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You guys aren't seeing my point. Im just going off of what Dheerja said.
"name one team on the circuit that would be able to bring a completely new routine in 2 months"
The same team that is being called on it has done it in the past and i'm just trying to say that the idea of a whole new set in 2 months is not impossible. SGPD did it. NJ did it.
Just by looking at numerous posts within this thread, you can see that people feel SGPD is in a league of its own and that only Nachdi and VCU come in it. Pooja went on to say that elite 8 is the only competition that SGPD has a real challenge. Well if thats the case, its just a matter of trying to push SGPD to bring out more. It's not an insult to them, rather a challenge to push them to their maximum capabilities. Nachdi had a 100% new set in 20 days. 100% new. Im going to re-watch it hold on.....
..yea 100% new...
I know that it is hard for teams to completely change a set in 2 months, but it would've given people more to wow at, thats my point. We all know that SGPD is a very capable team. If they weren't, I would never sit here trying to make this point.
"name one team on the circuit that would be able to bring a completely new routine in 2 months"
The same team that is being called on it has done it in the past and i'm just trying to say that the idea of a whole new set in 2 months is not impossible. SGPD did it. NJ did it.
Just by looking at numerous posts within this thread, you can see that people feel SGPD is in a league of its own and that only Nachdi and VCU come in it. Pooja went on to say that elite 8 is the only competition that SGPD has a real challenge. Well if thats the case, its just a matter of trying to push SGPD to bring out more. It's not an insult to them, rather a challenge to push them to their maximum capabilities. Nachdi had a 100% new set in 20 days. 100% new. Im going to re-watch it hold on.....
..yea 100% new...
I know that it is hard for teams to completely change a set in 2 months, but it would've given people more to wow at, thats my point. We all know that SGPD is a very capable team. If they weren't, I would never sit here trying to make this point.
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I agree, it is possible to bring a new set in a short period of time. But we did exactly what we thought was the wisest move. We got the outcome we wanted. NJ brought a new set in 20 days... so when your checking your dates check the stats too. They didn't place at DDA when they placed at masti. Wise move or not. You decide. Judges don't sit on youtube and watch your video, so it was all new to themAnkurK said:
