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Sonay Jawan Gabroo @ Notorious Bhangra III

GSingh

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Sup guys! We just competed for the first time this past weekend at Notorious Bhangra and would like to thank everyone that made it possible! The committee did a great job organizing and getting the teams a great crowd to perform for. Shoutout to Sundeep our liaison for havin our backs throughout the weekend. Props to Harjot for putting in work as always. Shoutout to Dholi Yash for being the cutest 8 year old out there! Big ups to Pranava for dancing with us all the way from Duke! Loved having you with us broskii :D

Below is the video of our performance. Any constructive criticism would be great! We've noted most of the mistakes in terms of forgetting moves, lines being off etc but it's always great to see what we missed. Most of our crew is under 20 so any feedback would greatly help all of us improve in the future. Thank you!!

Sonay Jawan Gabroo @ Notorious Bhangra 3 (2014)
 

sammyk

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First off, congratulations on your first performance! It's nice to see that the Bhangra community is still growing really fast!


Like you mentioned, you have noted any mistakes, so I won't touch on those. My big comment would have to be energy. If a dancer is not necessarily in the front, or the center of attention, then the energy shouldn't drop. It's easier said than done, but you just have to pound for whatever it is, 7-8 minutes, and put in full energy. Strong finishes are also really impactful. Energy died a little at the end as well for some people.


But overall, congrats on the performance. And you guys are young, excited to see you perform again!
 

Aditya

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Love the direction you guys are going in. Choreo flows really well, nothings forced, good choices for songs, variation of tempos, etc. You guys have the fundamentals down pat, which is EXTREMELY impressive for a new team.


Some critiques:
  • Energy, as has already been mentioned, needs to be higher throughout. The way you guys started the routine with the mela looked great -- keep that going through the whole way.
  • A big thing you guys are missing is "wow" factor. This doesn't have to be in the form of banners, lights, and gimmicks (that doesn't seem to be your style anyway), but more in terms of effects and formations. Some more intricate and complex formation packaging would make so much of what you're doing that much more engaging (think JJ or old school VCU). Even quick formation shifts and switches can go a long way (think Toronto teams) to adding depth to the routine.
  • To further go off of that, your drops are solid, but they're hard to remember; elite teams have a way of doing something in every segment that makes it memorable. Harder-hitting/more creative choreo can do a lot to fix this or, again, formation effects.
  • Overall, some additional complexity in the routine would go a long way for you guys. But I love the style you guys are going for so keep building within that framework.
Keep at it, you guys are certainly on the right track. Congrats on a great start, I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next!
 

Ravi M

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I think y'all did a great job for your first performance. I loved the song selection and the choreo style and like Aditya said, everything flows very well together. While I do think energy level needs to be higher, one thing that I really think you guys should work on is varying the pace of the routine a little more. The set started out great with high energy and a pretty fast pace for the first couple of segments. However I thought the middle of the routine, from the end of phumaniya to the end of jugni, was slow for too long. Having slow segment after slow segment for what I think was almost 3 minutes in the middle of the routine not only can take away from the excitement of the performance, but can also cause your dancers to get lazy which leads to a drop in energy. Varying the pace of your segments a little more is the key to a really hype performance that keeps the audience engaged and maintains a high dancer energy level.


Overall I really enjoyed watching this set and can't wait to see what you guys come up with next!


PS Pranava you look sexy in red ;)
 

lakha23

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Loved the choreo & set overall, and what Aditya said is great !

Aditya said:
  • A big thing you guys are missing is "wow" factor. This doesn't have to be in the form of banners, lights, and gimmicks (that doesn't seem to be your style anyway), but more in terms of effects and formations. Some more intricate and complex formation packaging would make so much of what you're doing that much more engaging (think JJ or old school VCU). Even quick formation shifts and switches can go a long way (think Toronto teams) to adding depth to the routine.
 

GSingh

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All very valid points. Thank you guys for the detailed contributions. We'll definitely incorporate the advice into future performances. The hardest thing I think for a team with a folk - no gimmick style is to create impressions that are original -- that don't appear to be bitten off of other teams in the past. We'll be working hard to work this into the sets.

Keep your thoughts coming! Everyone really appreciates the feedback. :)




Some vines that were made over the weekend:
https://vine.co/dukebhangra
 

SGupta7

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To add onto everyone else, it was obvious without knowing the set that formations were not hitting (lines, diagonals, etc.) so it's definitely worth it to clean that up. In addition, while I liked the energy that you guys brought to the saap segment, it was very noticeable when people were extending the saap at different angles (probably has something to do with how the white saaps pop on stage). I loved the choreo and execution of that segment as a whole, but a little more practice with angles and cleanliness would make that segment near perfect.


As Aditya mentioned, the style you guys are going for is great and I really enjoyed watching the set aside from a few miscues. Good luck in the future and congrats on a solid first performance!
 

Saab

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So, first things first, good looks in giving gursimran the yellow vardi. It really shows off his beard, which is now about the size of a small child. I bet the gtv video will soon start advertisements in punjab for how to properly groom and grow your man-beard in all it's glory, and it's nice that it has it's time to shine.




The set -


1. Mela was fantastic. Really shows what you guys can become. You guys should spend time practicing each segment of the set to the same level as the mela, as that level of of overall performance is going to win competitions.


2. If I were, say, to do 1000 punjabs in a row, my arms and legs should go to the exact same place 1000 times(or I pass out and sleep, which is a perfectly acceptable option if doing that many punjabs). Way to many times I see people on the team do a step multiple times and NOT keep the same execution. Elite teams both homogenous in terms of their similarities in each other and their ability to stay at the same level throughout the performance.


3. People on the team perform the steps differently. Red jodi is alike, black jodi is alike - red and black jodis are unalike. The emphasis on both sets of dancers seems to be different as well(black is all energy, red is a mix of energy and grace). A good starting point for each segment is to give the team an idea of how they should be performing their steps to make you all approach the step in the same way. This means that even if someone puts extra emphasis on their legs for a step, or does a look, the general view of ten guys doesn't look weird because of differences.


4. Do a shitload of betke. Elite teams are great in their betke. I am pretty sure younger nachdi jawani dancers are hatched from eggs in the betke position. Backs aren't straight and arms look week, plus you look tired getting out of them. If you do four betkes in beats 1-4, beat five, when all of a sudden the levels have changed, needs to be done well. ---also, going into betke is not good. Standardized how you fall into them.


5. Like Aditya said, focus on selling stuff in the set and building to some mental mindfuck. It doesn't have to be crazy either, just something that's right for the moment. Like fist bumping each other like bros is one thing, but how can you make that into something truly memorable? How can you that cutesy interaction hit harder? If you yourself can come up with an idea, then get it to the point where you think its cool even after doing it 100 times, the audience will. They might not buy the overall picture - but they will buy you digging the idea.




This is a really good start. People made some mistakes and you guys got tired, but you should see that in the video. There are definitely ebbs and flows in the set, which you guys should plan out both mentally and physically so that you guys hit every segment like how it should be done(some guys are to energetic on the chill shit, some guys are too mellow when you are actively trying to engage the audience).


Its a solid start, and gursimran, put some fertilizer in the beard. I expect it to be young adult size at the next competition.
 

GSingh

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Love the feedback. Thank you both! Ram, The beard is a blessing and a curse. Making a smile visible is SOO much harder.
 

Gsimz

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+1 to the Mela and Saap segment.

Lots of great critiques have already been mentioned. But for me watching this performance, I would say work on getting all your dancers on the same level.

I really enjoyed the choreography. I applaud teams who can make moves in balance with the mood and feeling given off by the song. And I think you guys did a fantastic job of that.

That mix ;) . Great job GSingh. Your folk touch in the mix works really well for you guys.

Goodluck in the future!
 
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