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What's happening to the Punjabi Music Industry

nmistry2

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its the modern western influence thats taking over, its not just the punjabi music industry, its all music industry's being taken over by this new electronic studio editted style, it really sucks now.


just for the record though, saini surinder is actually pretty legit and has an amazing voice, maybe he can influence other singers to bring back bhangra to what it used to be
 

voxanimus

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singhk1 said:
Ya true but I'm saying it almost seems like nowadays the main priority Isn't vocals and singing for a lot of artist its like ok to have bad vocals as long as the music Is good the thing I was trying to say more is the older generation focused on vocals a lot more than music they were dependent on their voice as it should be to me though, I mean the profession is singing

production and technology have advanced enough that raw singing talent isn't needed anymore to make a good song.
 

singhk1

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voxanimus said:
singhk1 said:
Ya true but I'm saying it almost seems like nowadays the main priority Isn't vocals and singing for a lot of artist its like ok to have bad vocals as long as the music Is good the thing I was trying to say more is the older generation focused on vocals a lot more than music they were dependent on their voice as it should be to me though, I mean the profession is singing

production and technology have advanced enough that raw singing talent isn't needed anymore to make a good song.

Exactly my point. Singing talent is what it should be all about, the profession is Singing. Anyone can put out a song in todays industry and we're just moving further and further from the roots of Singing. Im not talking about Every Singer In the Industry because there's a lot of real talent out but a decent percentage that seems to gradually raising
 

singhk1

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nmistry2 said:
just for the record though, saini surinder is actually pretty legit and has an amazing voice, maybe he can influence other singers to bring back bhangra to what it used to be

He's not the only one there's a lot of real talent...[SIZE=78%]I can't wait until I come out on the scene [/SIZE]
 

Basim

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singhk1 said:
I can't wait until I come out on the scene
Yes - you've said this before as well. I'm sure many of us can't wait to see this "major breakthrough" in the industry that you'll make too.

I just hope your songs lyrics will be easier to understand and make more sense than your BTF posts.

Kar lay jo karna mitro,

~ Basim :)
 

singhk1

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Basim said:
I just hope your songs lyrics will be easier to understand and make more sense than your BTF posts.

Kar lay jo karna mitro,

~ Basim :)

ha you think its a joke but you'll see. Don't try playing me son Read what I said and I bet you can actually learn something not saying I know so much but if you disagree with what I say Idk where your minds at This topic is done
 
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Hey guys, simmer down...heh heh :)


I am sure we do understand Punjabi music differently, etc. That's cool.


As a musician— or as someone who has put a lot of time and thought into music over the years... I've learned countless instruments, was a pro bass player when younger, playing on cruise ship, at Carnegie Hall, from Western classical orchestra to jazz, led a ska-reggae band, spent a dozen years studying Punjabi musicians, now trying to learn every traditional sailor song...just picked up the concertina couple weeks ago and have been having fun playing old-timey tunes, and as a prof. of music I look at stuff from cultures all over the world...anyway...My comments come from a place of almost heartbreak when I see people trying to suck some subsistence out of the industry music that is on offer, like water from a cactus in the desert or something, when 1/2 mile away is a cantina with delicious cervezas. (Be warned that most of my analogies relate to food — it's not for nothing that I'm a fatboy.)
So McDonalds restaurants exist for a very good reason—the market and our lifestyles demand them. We all know that it is pretty crappy food, yet plenty of people keep eating it. But here's the thing: I think McDonalds (or something similar - you know what I mean) is great—not great quality or nutrition, but something that just "hits the spot" at particular times. It works after a late night out, or when you're in an airport between flights, or when you've only a dollar in your pocket. I don't wish for a world where "McDonalds" does not exist, and I think it would be snobbish to expect people not to eat there. But I think we realize the function of mcDonalds; we know what to expect from it, what we want to get out of it. Most importantly we know that it has its time and place and should not make up our entire diet. We know not to expect anything special from it, that the preferred experience will come through home-cooking, mostly, and, less frequently, nice restaurants.


This 'heartbreak' is like going into a "ghetto" where substantial number of people are just scraping by eating at McDonalds/BK every day. And you feel like saying, "Here, take this dollar, go buy some broccoli, take it home and eat that tonight instead." In their situation, even though the nutritious home-food is in reach, their main frame of reference for "food" is going to either McD, BK, or whatever. Similarly, I feel like I am running into people whose frame of reference for "music" is basically the pop music industry (or things mediated through that industry). It comes down to ranking less-bad crap above more-bad crap. BK over Mickey D's.


I'll repeat that I'm not a hater of popular music, or necessarily of the music industry. I just think we should have a healthy sense of its limitations and why it exist, and the frame of reference for music must be much wider. All human beings are capable of music, and it's often the music we make ourselves, for ourselves, that is most nourishing.


I would say, singhk1, don't worry about "coming out" on any scene. The music industry does not validate the value of our music. It only decides, for itself, what performances are appropriate, in a cost-benefits analysis, to make a profit from, after being fit into its narrow format. We simply can't use the "formula" used, out of necessity, by the music industry as a guide to our own valuation of music. If we do, we're missing so much...stuff all around us.
 

himynameis

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nmistry2 said:
its the modern western influence thats taking over, its not just the punjabi music industry, its all music industry's being taken over by this new electronic studio editted style, it really sucks now.
Translation:

Ajj kal de neyaneahne gandh peya
 

hardeep_singh

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Basim said:
singhk1 said:
I can't wait until I come out on the scene
Yes - you've said this before as well. I'm sure many of us can't wait to see this "major breakthrough" in the industry that you'll make too.

I just hope your songs lyrics will be easier to understand and make more sense than your BTF posts.

Kar lay jo karna mitro,

~ Basim :)
lol, thank you basim for the laughs. good show ol' chap
 

razorhedge

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I think the biggest problem is fans overrate an artist too often. Imran khan came out with some cool/funny lyrics but then his fans made him God.
Truskool came out with some cool hip hop sampled bhangra, but now his fanboys think he's elvis (not the best analogy). Same goes with Babbu mann and lots of other artists.


Fans tend to exaggerate an artists's accomplishments too much these days, there by ruining the overall experience.
 

singhk1

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Western influence is one thing not necessarily what I was trying to say.
Times change ideas evolve but Singers need to focus on their Vocal talent > music not Vocal talent < music
Singing is an art, I feel like a good amount singers seem to not understand that
 

siddyp

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himynameis

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siddyp said:
himynameis said:
razorhedge said:
himynameis said:
razorhedge said:
Same goes with Babbu mann

You are out your fucking mind KID!!!!!!!!

You just proved my point uncle ji

You proved that you like the taste of my nuts in your mouth!!!




BABBU MANN is the best there was best there is and the best there will ever be!!
i have a question: Is your name, Billy Smith?

Hi, my name is Billy Smith.
WELL SHIT, there goes my cover. Thanks buddy
 

singhk1

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Chill guys you went from what I was talking about to that...Babbu Mann is deff going down as a legend but singing wise he's not the absolute best
 
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