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Bhangra Bash Results

Kush

Active Member
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BACK from a sick sick weekend. First off shoutouts:

All of Jawani. You girls are amazing dancers, and chill people. Your video was sick, and a very very very hard act to follow (to put it lightly). One of my favorite teams easily, and judging aside, everyone i know at the show said this was THE performance of the night.

To BMW: Ballers. Straight up the coolest people at this competition (cept for abhijit. wat a TOOL! dancing on the PODIUM n crap hahaha 8) ). Ripping it at the mixer with you guys, to chillin with each other back stage. Sunpreet, lets do that collabo. Also, I want that mix... STANKY LEGGGG... oh and the video cause we didn't see ya'll. Chances are, even if we get in/dont do bruin, at least 4-5 of us are coming through to party n watch so add those to your 40-50 heads to "handle any lingering "Bash" business".. you know what i mean. Shout out to all you guys, and Kid Cudi in particular since I dubbed you with a new nickname lol.

Oh... and to address the beatdown rumors. BMW did not get knocked the fuck out. FAR from it. A couple guys got "jumped" by at least 5+ guys AND STILL walked away pretty much unhurt. They had to handle a bunch of dumbass kids calling tons of friends and attemping to jump them around every corner of the club. Bunch of cowards, and real stupid ass fools. They deserved to be stomped on. They tried to start shit at the hotel after, and even ran up to half of us guardians as we left the club. All because they're pissed with PLACINGS.

To BK: Pure energy and talent. This team is GOING PLACES! very cool kids, thanks for the supportive comments after the performance. and i know one of you guys has our video (thanks millan), just send me a message and i'll send you my email.

To the Punjabi Beat crew who came to watch: Thanks for teh compliments on the mix and performance. Maybe I'll let it out, haven't decided yet.

To RU bhangra: for those of you who simply showed us support, took a video for me, and the one of you who helped me tie my phuman real quick, thanks. Rest of you guys, good performance. One of the few I saw and you guys did well for the most part. Trust me, I know about stunt/tower difficulties. Juggy, thanks for the pagh tying tips and just the chill conversation.

To the various members of other teams that we met: it was great kicking it with ya'll n meeting everyone.

To the bash organizers: Great work. I know throwing competitions are rough. You guys did a pretty good job. Judging choices are questionable overall, as you will learn from the other thread in full force. But judging is always is questioned at competitions for the most part, something you have to deal with, learn from, and move on. Tech timing shoul dhave been pushed earlier. I understand its a hassle for teams early in the show, but that's the price you pay for being done early. Some guys from teams such as ours and bmw didn't get to see a SINGLE performance because we had less than 2 hours to get ready and get to the show, so we spent the first half getting ready and the second half backstage, which definintely sucked. Also, CHANGE THE AFTERPART VENUE IMMEDIATELY! Not only did the "theater/club" suck since dancing on a slanted floor is dangerous and difficult, but the location was unsafely organized. Sure, being able to walk to it was a plus, but it sacrificed plenty.

Also, according to some of other teams posts, SOME TEAMS were actually allowed to speak to the judges. Learning this now, its kind of upsetting to know that we weren't offered the same opportunity. WHEN AND WHERE was this judging feedback session. We were told there wouldn't even be one, forget about just forgetting to tell us.

One last comment: I WILL NOT name this team out of politeness, and more importantly to avoid starting crap between our team and another. But if we do post one of the videos that we have, there was BLATANT DISRESPECT on the part of one team. Shouting out obsentities, and just because you have lewd ideas on your mind doesn't mean you should shout em out during another teams performance. You offended our entire team. I know at least the captain posts on here and whether or not the captain was present when the team was running their mouths, I don't know. But you have lost the complete respect of myself and my teammates. Not sure if that means much. It is ONE thing to critique, or even insult our PERFORMANCE as a team. But to make disrespectful remarks unrelated to our performance as a team is personal, and honestly, I had to CONVINCE our team not to... "confront" you about it. It took one of our friends to tell you to shut up, but don't worry, I have the hooping, turkey calling, and one very clear statement on video. I understand it might be "annoying" or w/e that I'm not naming this team, but it isn't about just that. I just think its juvenile and pathetic that ANYONE would stoop so low as to shout out that they "want their *** sucked too", because for some strange reason, our opening reminded them of this. Hey if a bunch of guys in a huddle is what gets you going, more power to you. just don't yell it during ANYONE'S performance, not only because it's rude, but because a less calm team might have handled this situation much less calmly. Hope you guys grow up.

All in all, our team loved seattle and this competition. We would love to go back again, both to perform or to watch. Unfortunately we didn't have any other team videos for you guys.

Congratulations to all the winning teams...

- Kush
 

Bharathi

Member
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Kush, I approached the organizers as we were about to leave asking to a. talk to the judges and b. see my score sheet. At first we were told we couldn't but I guess they changed their minds when a couple of other team captains joined me. I wish you guys had been around for that.
 

JayKay

New Member
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191
JayKay said:
-comp outcome was wacked....
-after party was just horrible:|...
-organization was good...
-organizers were hella friendly....

the competition ran pretty smooth in my opinion up until the outcome. A lot of us on stage cudnt quite get a grip around what was happening after hearing the placings....just didnt make sense....i thought that jawani killed it, and deserved first. After our team members talked to the judges, they said that Jawani wasnt even in the top 5...I guess the 3 judges saw something that the rest of the 400 or so people in the venue didnt. But again, the individuals were qualified enough to be selected as judges for the competition, and their word is last even though a ton of people didnt agree.

Actual Placings:

BMW
Panj
PCAC/BK


The way i thought the outcome wud of been:

Jawani
ABC
BK or Punj => No tie, either BK or PUNJ. Depending on details on the score card, the better team should have won.


AS for PCAC
i love the traditional set, but having no other traditional teams in the roster (as far as i remember there wernt any other live traditional teams) to compete against kinda put PCAC at a disadvantage...i think of BASH as a more modern comp and they should of came on a music set. They would of placed higher for sure

BMW
I dont think you guys even had REAL khoondey. Someone correct me if im wrong, but they looked like plumbing pipes to me :S. I could very much be wrong. And the khoonda kick thing was cool, but ive been taught to never purposely kick a prop. Its considered disrespect. And as for the chin ups, its kinda getting old. Rest of the set was ok. Not a winning routine in my opinion. Sure could have easily been a 3rd or 4th place routine. Just a personal opinion.

Gaurav-> singer at the end of the competition.
Loved the singing at the end of the comp. Well done. Keep it up. U got a lot more ahead of you.

seems like some of the stuff i said was a bit controversial, and i did offend some people (no names). Didnt mean to offend anyone, and my thoughts were posted with full respect to all teams. Guess it kinda came out wrong. Was a late night post. I wasnt thinking strait. My apologies if anyone got offended.
 

chakdey80

New Member
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Overall this was a really good competition, so congrats to all the performers. The ones that stood out for me were ABC, Jawani and Bhangra Knights

It seems that the judging is always the downfall of these competitions because people can't keep their biases or egos in check. After the results it was completely clear that the judges had their own agendas and didn't see the same thing as the entire crowd. A Bibi sitting by me even yelled out that a couple of the teams should "Sue the judges!!", which was really funny but also kind of sad.

Bash was organized well and the performances were great but the judging was The Worst i've seen at a competition. Unfortunately next year a lot of really good teams won't be in the competition as a result and the show will suffer
 

Ramani

Member
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Nav Dheri said:
Davinder Dhaliwal said:
oh one more question, i heard the bmw guys got in a fight n got knock da fuck out????? is it true?
yeah some retards from seattle started fighting with BMW guys...which is the stupidest thing ever...BMW guys are awesome! and no one got "knock da fuck out" lol

ohh wow that's just lame first of all BMW guys are not like that they are the most chillest guys out there. People out there are immature, people need to get there facts straight before they start making judgments and take actions when they don't know the consequences.
 

Waleed

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Kush said:
They tried to start shit at the hotel after, and even ran up to half of us guardians as we left the club. All because they're pissed with PLACINGS.
Which team were they affiliated with?

Wow. Teams, control your fans.
 

Kush

Active Member
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Waleed said:
Kush said:
They tried to start shit at the hotel after, and even ran up to half of us guardians as we left the club. All because they're pissed with PLACINGS.
Which team were they affiliated with?

Wow. Teams, control your fans.
no clue. i don't think any in particular, but i really don't know.
 

Kush

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Gurvir said:
anyone who was there, what did you think of lethal vibe???
Gurvir, post your vid. We didn't get to see you guys, but I would have liked to.
 

Heera-Singh

Heera$diamonD
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hahahah thanks for the nickname kush.
and as far as all the teams at bash, it was alot of fun hanging out with everyone especially guardians, knights and ABC.

Jawani performance was LEGIT from what i seen in the video. good job girls.
 

Gurvir

Member
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Kush said:
Gurvir said:
anyone who was there, what did you think of lethal vibe???
Gurvir, post your vid. We didn't get to see you guys, but I would have liked to.
i'm trying to find someone who has it...if anyone does please email it to me, Reverse_dunk@hotmail.com
 

Remy

Member
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Kush said:
Waleed said:
Kush said:
They tried to start shit at the hotel after, and even ran up to half of us guardians as we left the club. All because they're pissed with PLACINGS.
Which team were they affiliated with?

Wow. Teams, control your fans.
no clue. i don't think any in particular, but i really don't know.

I don't think any of them were on any teams..just a bunch of stupid fudus that wanted to start shit. It was a pure hate crime. Its pretty damn f-cking disgusting...these madderchoddars are totally not worthy of living...complete waste of f-cking life.
 

Gurvir

Member
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Remy said:
Kush said:
Waleed said:
Kush said:
They tried to start shit at the hotel after, and even ran up to half of us guardians as we left the club. All because they're pissed with PLACINGS.
Which team were they affiliated with?

Wow. Teams, control your fans.
no clue. i don't think any in particular, but i really don't know.

I don't think any of them were on any teams..just a bunch of stupid fudus that wanted to start shit. It was a pure hate crime. Its pretty damn f-cking disgusting...these madderchoddars are totally not worthy of living...complete waste of f-cking life.
well put remy.
 

Ramani

Member
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Remy said:
Kush said:
Waleed said:
Kush said:
They tried to start shit at the hotel after, and even ran up to half of us guardians as we left the club. All because they're pissed with PLACINGS.
Which team were they affiliated with?

Wow. Teams, control your fans.
no clue. i don't think any in particular, but i really don't know.

I don't think any of them were on any teams..just a bunch of stupid fudus that wanted to start shit. It was a pure hate crime. Its pretty damn f-cking disgusting...these madderchoddars are totally not worthy of living...complete waste of f-cking life.

+1
 

Pugilist

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In response to Mona99. While I appreciate you taking the time out to post your explanation of the BASH judging, your contradictory explanation only confirms that you should not have judged the event.

First I am not going to comment on each inconsistency in “war and peace” however will leave you with one fact based solely on your post.

You open by stating that your “morals, ethics and professionalism would never allow you to exercise bias of any form in the judge's seat.” You then go on to comment about the score sheet and related rubric; how the judges questioned it, however, were ordered by BASH to score according to the set criteria. Yet despite being told to follow the set criteria you decided to go against policy and judge teams for stamina. Irrespective of your explanation for doing so, in your opinion is this acceptable behaviour of a judge; is this not a demonstration of bias. Please explain how this is remotely fair; not only were the teams not aware, of your personal rubric, nor were your fellow judges.

Like I mentioned above I am not going to highlight the numerous inconsistencies in your post based on the evenings events because based on your version of the facts alone your comments lack credibility.

Frankly, your post is like the judging at BASH… full of holes.
 

campy614

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Pugilist said:
In response to Mona99. While I appreciate you taking the time out to post your explanation of the BASH judging, your contradictory explanation only confirms that you should not have judged the event.

First I am not going to comment on each inconsistency in “war and peace” however will leave you with one fact based solely on your post.

You open by stating that your “morals, ethics and professionalism would never allow you to exercise bias of any form in the judge's seat.” You then go on to comment about the score sheet and related rubric; how the judges questioned it, however, were ordered by BASH to score according to the set criteria. Yet despite being told to follow the set criteria you decided to go against policy and judge teams for stamina. Irrespective of your explanation for doing so, in your opinion is this acceptable behaviour of a judge; is this not a demonstration of bias. Please explain how this is remotely fair; not only were the teams not aware, of your personal rubric, nor were your fellow judges.

Like I mentioned above I am not going to highlight the numerous inconsistencies in your post based on the evenings events because based on your version of the facts alone your comments lack credibility.

Frankly, your post is like the judging at BASH… full of holes.
Hey Pugilist,

I just wanted to comment on your post. Not that I'm defending Mona's decision to cut points for on/off people-but I see where she could take points off. If a team doesn't have stamina throughout the routine, than a team cannot execute the routine properly-and execution is a part of every bhangra (or for that matter dance in general) rubric ever known to man. Lack of stamina = poor execution = points taken off.

Mona, I have to be honest-I didn't read your post. Don't have time. But in my opinion, you didn't owe anyone an explanation for your decisions. Think of it like a final exam/grade-do professors owe anyone an explanation for their decision to give you a B instead of an A? No. You didn't owe anyone anything. And the more you come on here to defend yourself, the more people are going to try to make you look bad. My opinion-leave everything as is. Let people talk, because lately that's all people are on this forum.

Jawani Girls, you girls know you're the sh*t (and if you don't than you should). You don't need me, or anyone else on this forum to tell you that. Keep doing your thing!!!

Bash committee-next show, PLEASE be very specific on the judging rubric. The more specific YOU are, the more specific the judges will be, and the better THEY will be able to make a decision that will please everyone and not have 100s of people arguing about judging. I heard aside from judging, the organization of the competition was phenominal. Get one more person to help on your committee next year for the sole purpose of knowing how the rubric works and to help the judges.

-Joe
 

Kush

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campy614 said:
Pugilist said:
In response to Mona99. While I appreciate you taking the time out to post your explanation of the BASH judging, your contradictory explanation only confirms that you should not have judged the event.

First I am not going to comment on each inconsistency in “war and peace” however will leave you with one fact based solely on your post.

You open by stating that your “morals, ethics and professionalism would never allow you to exercise bias of any form in the judge's seat.” You then go on to comment about the score sheet and related rubric; how the judges questioned it, however, were ordered by BASH to score according to the set criteria. Yet despite being told to follow the set criteria you decided to go against policy and judge teams for stamina. Irrespective of your explanation for doing so, in your opinion is this acceptable behaviour of a judge; is this not a demonstration of bias. Please explain how this is remotely fair; not only were the teams not aware, of your personal rubric, nor were your fellow judges.

Like I mentioned above I am not going to highlight the numerous inconsistencies in your post based on the evenings events because based on your version of the facts alone your comments lack credibility.

Frankly, your post is like the judging at BASH… full of holes.
Hey Pugilist,

I just wanted to comment on your post. Not that I'm defending Mona's decision to cut points for on/off people-but I see where she could take points off. If a team doesn't have stamina throughout the routine, than a team cannot execute the routine properly-and execution is a part of every bhangra (or for that matter dance in general) rubric ever known to man. Lack of stamina = poor execution = points taken off.

Mona, I have to be honest-I didn't read your post. Don't have time. But in my opinion, you didn't owe anyone an explanation for your decisions. Think of it like a final exam/grade-do professors owe anyone an explanation for their decision to give you a B instead of an A? No. You didn't owe anyone anything. And the more you come on here to defend yourself, the more people are going to try to make you look bad. My opinion-leave everything as is. Let people talk, because lately that's all people are on this forum.

Jawani Girls, you girls know you're the sh*t (and if you don't than you should). You don't need me, or anyone else on this forum to tell you that. Keep doing your thing!!!

Bash committee-next show, PLEASE be very specific on the judging rubric. The more specific YOU are, the more specific the judges will be, and the better THEY will be able to make a decision that will please everyone and not have 100s of people arguing about judging. I heard aside from judging, the organization of the competition was phenominal. Get one more person to help on your committee next year for the sole purpose of knowing how the rubric works and to help the judges.

-Joe
Well said joe.
 

jassybillo

get the f**k outta here
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CONGRATS to BMW!!!!!!!!!!!

n SpEcIaL congrats to my favorite GUJABIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 

mafzal

Judge / Dancer
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yo.... big ups to bhangra knightz. i duno where the hell u guys came from but i'ma huge fan now. my fave video from bash this year. craazy energy. awesome set and performance, congrats.

my only complaint is maybe get proper joris.

besides that i'm a huge fan.
 

Sarang_S...

Member
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Mariam said:
yo.... big ups to bhangra knightz. i duno where the hell u guys came from but i'ma huge fan now. my fave video from bash this year. craazy energy. awesome set and performance, congrats.

my only complaint is maybe get proper joris.

besides that i'm a huge fan.
HAHAHA Thanks appreciate it but we still got some work to do...ohh and by the way were from the
BAY AREAaaa!!!
 
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