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dheerja

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So skipping over the above drama...

Blowout's slow decrease in popularity is a direct result of the traditional trend in bhangra. There are less than a handful of collegiate bhangra teams that can successfully perform a traditional routine in a creative and exciting way that appeals to a non-bhangra obsessed audience. The rest of the teams attempt to go traditional but it ends up looking formulaic and is just boring to watch. I actually place the blame on these teams, who abandon any attempt at forming their own style and instead watch a couple videos of India teams and VCU and rearrange the moves.

I don't think Blowout places an emphasis on traditionality in judging or team selection any more than other competitions. I actually think they have more wiggle room for creativity. One of their organizers actually posted this in another thread: "We wanted to point out that this year's judging criteria for the competition will be emphasizing originality and creativity just as much as traditionality and other technical elements."

I performed with Columbia at Blowout the past 3 years and from my experience, the judging recognizes the overall quality of a performance as well as the technical elements. I've seen teams place that were on the other end of the traditional spectrum (our team including), and that's because the judging criteria allowed things like energy, crowd reaction, creativity, etc. to place over a routine that had the checklist of bhangra elements.

One last comment in regards to the 8 vs. 10 vs. 12 teams. One of the years I performed at Blowout had 12 teams compete. It was horrible. As a performer I actually fell asleep in the audience. It seems like 8 teams is too little, but Blowout is different from other competitions. You don't have the variety of teams to keep the audience interested. Every single team is coed and collegiate, and a majority of them have pretty similar routines. If you have more than 8 teams, the judges don't even remember the first half of the show. It's only fair to the competing teams, judges, and audience to keep the number to a minimum.
 

faizan

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If Blowout wants 8 teams, then these teams best be amazing. Most competitions have 10 teams and at least 2 suck and have no hope of winning (you all know it is true)...blowout has essentially gotten rid of those two teams (i hope)...thanks for saving 20 minutes of our lives.
 

Waleed

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faizan said:
If Blowout wants 8 teams, then these teams best be amazing. Most competitions have 10 teams and at least 2 suck and have no hope of winning (you all know it is true)...blowout has essentially gotten rid of those two teams (i hope)...thanks for saving 20 minutes of our lives.
8 competitive teams
2 exhibition acts
2 artists (last year they had RDB and KS Makhan)

I think 8 competitive teams is just the right amount.
 

Meistro

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hahaha I'd rather have 10 teams than have RDB give you a headache for 30 min. I can't stand them. Same with Manak-E. Holy crap hahah. But seriously, an 8 team competition just feels to empty. I need 10 teams! Boston bhangra this year was perfect with 12 because they were just organized as hell.
 

zagreus

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Meistro said:
hahaha I'd rather have 10 teams than have RDB give you a headache for 30 min. I can't stand them. Same with Manak-E. Holy crap hahah. But seriously, an 8 team competition just feels to empty. I need 10 teams! Boston bhangra this year was perfect with 12 because they were just organized as hell.
gotta agree with this as well. boston was really organized, and it felt like everything flowed perfectly
 

kinnell

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Meistro said:
hahaha I'd rather have 10 teams than have RDB give you a headache for 30 min. I can't stand them.
I guess the artist is there for the judges to make their final decisions and stuff. I guess they could add another exhibition team for judging time, but the singing varies shit up a bit.

The judging act should have an open bar too. Okay, actually, that would be a bad idea.
 

Pooja

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I also think that Blowout has become stale because pretty much every year and probably going forward VCU and Rutgers win either 1st or 2nd and then 3rd is up for grabs...but still for a more experienced team. And the same teams usually get into Blowout every year....except this past year there were a few newer teams.

My question is VCU...BOB or Blowout?
 

Vick

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hahah I love this Blowout bashing, it's feels good to see that I'm about 2 years ahead of everyone else on this board... The Blowout committee has absolutely zero marketing skills... They need to get rid of their retarded collegiate only requirement, the stupidest f*ckin idea on the planet...Blowout is no longer a top 5 competition, they havent sold out a show in god knows how long even though their board says they sell out every year, yet when you show up, the whole damn top tier is empty... yeaa, people buy $60 dollar overpriced tickets and dont show up... what a load of crap.. I've been in the D.C. area for the past three years, and I've been to Blowout ONCE yet I've made the trip up to Detroit twice to watch fusion... Blowout is a joke until they open up their competition to private teams... I want NJ vs. VCU vs. SGPD vs. Empire vs. Drexel vs. f*ckin anyone... AVAP is the only hope for the mid-atlantic...
 

Jessie

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I agree with Vick on this one, this competition has to be opened to private teams in order to be sucessful. Some of are guys were asking about it cuz they wanted to do it but little did they know its only for Universities/Colleges :-\
 

Stylez1

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Jessie said:
I agree with Vick on this one, this competition has to be opened to private teams in order to be sucessful. Some of are guys were asking about it cuz they wanted to do it but little did they know its only for Universities/Colleges :-\
i was one of those guys :mad:
 

zagreus

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I would like to see blowout open up. it would be nice to see. i think back in the day, teams were collegiate, now...they're not.
 

Waleed

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Vick said:
hahah I love this Blowout bashing, it's feels good to see that I'm about 2 years ahead of everyone else on this board... The Blowout committee has absolutely zero marketing skills... They need to get rid of their retarded collegiate only requirement, the stupidest f*ckin idea on the planet...Blowout is no longer a top 5 competition, they havent sold out a show in god knows how long even though their board says they sell out every year, yet when you show up, the whole damn top tier is empty... yeaa, people buy $60 dollar overpriced tickets and dont show up... what a load of crap.. I've been in the D.C. area for the past three years, and I've been to Blowout ONCE yet I've made the trip up to Detroit twice to watch fusion... Blowout is a joke until they open up their competition to private teams... I want NJ vs. VCU vs. SGPD vs. Empire vs. Drexel vs. f*ckin anyone... AVAP is the only hope for the mid-atlantic...
Sorry, I find myself in disagreement Vickosaurus-Rex.

I'm glad that we have competitions like Blowout that exclusively showcase collegiate teams. I think we have enough big competitions now to showcase the big boy teams (nj,empire,sgpd,drp), comps like Boston, Bruin, Idols, VIBC, Socal, Fusion (to name a few).

Let's def encourage diversity in competitions.. like an all-girls team competitions or junior teams competitions or collegiate only. Btw, collegiate teams have been upping their game - evidence? Bhangra in the Burgh. I wasn't there but I watched the videos and those who were there said it was a great show. Northwestern, UVA, Drexel - up and coming college teams with the potential of placing at Blowout.
 

Vick

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Waleed said:
Sorry, I find myself in disagreement Vickosaurus-Rex.

I'm glad that we have competitions like Blowout that exclusively showcase collegiate teams. I think we have enough big competitions now to showcase the big boy teams (nj,empire,sgpd,drp), comps like Boston, Bruin, Idols, VIBC, Socal, Fusion (to name a few).

Let's def encourage diversity in competitions.. like an all-girls team competitions or junior teams competitions or collegiate only. Btw, collegiate teams have been upping their game - evidence? Bhangra in the Burgh. I wasn't there but I watched the videos and those who were there said it was a great show. Northwestern, UVA, Drexel - up and coming college teams with the potential of placing at Blowout.
When competition around you is weak, your chances of placing are obviously higher... Let's open it up so teams dont have false hope that they're the shit because they placed at blowout...
 

kinnell

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Vick said:
Waleed said:
Sorry, I find myself in disagreement Vickosaurus-Rex.

I'm glad that we have competitions like Blowout that exclusively showcase collegiate teams. I think we have enough big competitions now to showcase the big boy teams (nj,empire,sgpd,drp), comps like Boston, Bruin, Idols, VIBC, Socal, Fusion (to name a few).

Let's def encourage diversity in competitions.. like an all-girls team competitions or junior teams competitions or collegiate only. Btw, collegiate teams have been upping their game - evidence? Bhangra in the Burgh. I wasn't there but I watched the videos and those who were there said it was a great show. Northwestern, UVA, Drexel - up and coming college teams with the potential of placing at Blowout.
When competition around you is weak, your chances of placing are obviously higher... Let's open it up so teams dont have false hope that they're the shit because they placed at blowout...
Dude, I'm tired of seeing the same great teams go head to head over and over again. It's fucking old. Honestly, Blowout does get boring because of its 12 person co-ed traditional collegiate teams, but it gives these teams an OPPORTUNITY to perform.

Give teams false hope of thinking their the shit? You open it up and you give GOOD teams the false hope of performing at a well known competition. (It may not be a top competition, but it is still well-known)

Vick, bro... Don't bring down the achievement of placing at a competition JUST because they didn't compete against Nachdi Jawani, Sonay Gabroo Punjab Da, Virginia Commonwealth University or Da Real Punjabiz. That's simply absurd if you honestly think that.

Not every team has the resources or opportunities that some of the top tier teams do. Please understand that. I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of many on BTF when I emphasize that not every team has access to graceful Punjabi dancers, singers, dholis, ustaads from India, money coming in through gigs, academy funding, sponsorship and connections in the US and India. Blowout offers a chance for teams with similar resources to compete against each other.
 

AmitB

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In reference to selling out vs. not selling out the show.....i feel the place was really empty the year malkit singh performed due to the $50 tickets that year....the two years since I feel had a lot bigger crowd, and I actually felt it was fairly full last year....def not sold out at all, but still a very large crowd.

and i really dont think the college only thing is that bad of an idea....its the only one like that, it has always been their thing, and it should stay that way...
 

Kanvar

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the thing that most people don't realize about collegiate teams is that they tend to change from year to year because people graduate.

so when a choreographer graduates you will either see a big change of style or the team just doesn't dance anymore.

i can speak from experience as People's Bhangra is now a more traditionally flavored team because my interest is traditional bhangra and thus my choreography is influenced by traditional elements.

so a collegiate team has basically two scenarios when looking at the current year vs past years either A) they will be cleaner and the same style or B) a totally different team.


i mean, what's VCU going to be like when their choreographer graduates? or when their seniors graduate? but i'm pretty sure they have a deep roster where they won't change that drastically.
 

Raashi

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AmitB said:
In reference to selling out vs. not selling out the show.....i feel the place was really empty the year malkit singh performed due to the $50 tickets that year....the two years since I feel had a lot bigger crowd, and I actually felt it was fairly full last year....def not sold out at all, but still a very large crowd.

and i really dont think the college only thing is that bad of an idea....its the only one like that, it has always been their thing, and it should stay that way...
totally agree--i definitely think that the price of tickets has something to do with the crowd too... the year tickets went for $50 each, my friends and i definitely didn't go... too expensive for a bhangra comp.. we were saying that if tickets would be in the $30 range, then that's legit.
 

kamdeol

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i bet 75% of the crowd wouldn't even know who SGPD, Nachdi Jawani, or most of these other big name out of state/country teams. most people who come to these shows are college kids and family/family friends of the performers who only know of the schools that are competing and know only enough about bhangra to know that it will be an entertaining 3 hours. last year the hall was definitely a lot fuller, from my recollection almost the whole top tier was sold out, all the boxes were sold out and only the last section from floor seats was left empty (probably because everyone moved up into the empty seats). as long as the tickets get cheaper, which hopefully they will, that same crowd is still going to come regardless of which teams come to the competition.

BB caters to a crowd that is not traditional, thats why to compensate they have a traditional artist as well as a more modern/poppy artist. they are there to put on a show and make money, and last year RDB got just as much of a reaction from the crowd as K.S. Makhan did, so they made each part of the crowd happy, the people who dont know anything about bhangra, as well as those who do.

bhangra blowout is what it is, this is its 16th year, they are still selling thousands of tickets, so why should they bother changing it?
 

Omer81

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AmitB said:
and i really dont think the college only thing is that bad of an idea....its the only one like that, it has always been their thing, and it should stay that way...
Blowout wasn't always all collegiate. They were actually one of the first competitions that a non-collegiate team competed at (as far as I know). VIBE competed twice at Blowout before coming to Bruin. The year after that Blowout became REALLY strict on their rules about everybody being a full time student from the same school.

But I agree that they should keep it collegiate. Back in the day, competitions used to almost be like a pep rally with people in the crowd going back and forth cheering for their schools. I feel thats been lost in the current competition circuit and Blowout is the one competition that keeps the collegiate environment. I never understood why they require teams to be coed though.
 
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