Bhangra Nation Results!!

[shiradeol]

congrats punjabi beat.
but i m thinking tht how any team get 0/100 mark,
a judge gives o point because of personal conflict thts ridiculous,like tht things shamefull for any competition.

 

[gill00]

first : Punjabi Beat
second: kohinoor folk bhangra
third: Shaan e jrs.
fourth: sher punjab dhe
These are the results for bhangra nation. I was there and for their first competition as a team Sher Punjab Dhe did pretty well and i didn't expect shaan e jrs. to come in third place.

 

[Manjotnsj]

Congrats Remy! and to all of Punjabi Beat ;D

Any Videos????

 

[Vijay]

what happened to this comp? it always advertises as being the world championship of bhangra, yet there were only 4 teams? and no live category? unheard of for nation. last yr had such a sick lineup, this year it just took a plunge. congrats to the winners, but placing with only 4 teams in the lineup isn't much to boast about.

 

[Chidiya]

Why not? they beat the other teams, crap, id be happy about it

 

[Jag`]

This is what actually happened at the competition! One of the Judge (Raminder Aujla) was once part of the Shan-E-Punjab team but due to his actions(stealing money from the academy's bank account) he was expelled from our academy. He was never a coach of Shan-E-Punjab, He was just part of the management. The Bhangra Nation Management never announced the judging line-up till the same day of the competition so we had no clue who were the judges. We found out the same day that one of the judges is going to be Mr. Raminder Aujla and we knew that something like this would come up. Our Coach said that instead of backing out we should just continue because he thought that Mr Aujla would not do such childish acts. Mr. Aujla gave in an empty scoresheet at the end of the competition and when asked why he did so his reply was that he does not like the Shan-E-Punjab team and their Coach. He thought that their Dholi was not good enough. He gave us a 0/100 scoresheet and he gave the rest of the teams higher scores. Im not saying the other teams were not good. I was amazed at punjabi beat and kohinoor bhangra's performance. We knew it was a good competition for the first place. But were just saying that the judgung wasnt fair and there should be actions taken to fix these kinds of outrageous display of unprofessionalism. If their are personal issues between two people it should be dealt with personally outside. The Shan-E Jrs. had nothing to do with it. Their confidence have been crushed because of this. These kids spent their whole summer preparing and practicisng their set and for it to end like this is not good.

 

[Manjot]

Another competition downed.

 

[- Raja -]

a good and respected comp gone down the drain..worst thing that can ever happen to a teamm. i think you guys should talk to the bhangra nation commitee and resolve this..not change the placings but get an apology from the whole commitee including the judgess..dunt let ur confidence downn..you guys are a sick teammm reppin torontooo..keeep moving forward with it

 

[ranjit singh]

that's bullshit, chooslay raminder aujla, shan-e for life

 

[SunnyParmar]

This is typical Bhangra Nation though. In 2006 I went down to Nation with BC Cultural. The way they ran the show, the unprofessionalism for Ranvir (i think that's his name) was all but almost expected. I remember that the India team had come down and they were given first place and one of their members was also given best dancer even though it was clear that one of the dancers from Nachdi or Rooh was very much more deserving. At the end there was a riot with some teams and the judging. We ended up standing outside the venue for almost 2-3 hours before someone from Vancouver who happened to be at the competition ended up taking our whole team to the hotel. We never got contact with him again. I was even in Toronto for another week and constantly tried to call him but he never responded. And don't forget nation east where all the live teams except Gabroo Shokeen were disqualified lol. Typical Nation bs.

Competition's like these need to be stopped. People spend a lot of time and money to come out and have fun but at the same time be in a competition where they shouldn't have to worry about being given a 0 on their scorecard or standing outside a venue for 2-3 hours.

Hopefully someone from Nation will actually pick up their phone and team with Raminder Aujla and the unfair occurrences with BN.

 

[kinnell]

This is what actually happened at the competition! One of the Judge (Raminder Aujla) was once part of the Shan-E-Punjab team but due to his actions(stealing money from the academy's bank account) he was expelled from our academy. He was never a coach of Shan-E-Punjab, He was just part of the management. The Bhangra Nation Management never announced the judging line-up till the same day of the competition so we had no clue who were the judges. We found out the same day that one of the judges is going to be Mr. Raminder Aujla and we knew that something like this would come up. Our Coach said that instead of backing out we should just continue because he thought that Mr Aujla would not do such childish acts. Mr. Aujla gave in an empty scoresheet at the end of the competition and when asked why he did so his reply was that he does not like the Shan-E-Punjab team and their Coach. He thought that their Dholi was not good enough. He gave us a 0/100 scoresheet and he gave the rest of the teams higher scores. Im not saying the other teams were not good. I was amazed at punjabi beat and kohinoor bhangra's performance. We knew it was a good competition for the first place. But were just saying that the judgung wasnt fair and there should be actions taken to fix these kinds of outrageous display of unprofessionalism. If their are personal issues between two people it should be dealt with personally outside. The Shan-E Jrs. had nothing to do with it. Their confidence have been crushed because of this. These kids spent their whole summer preparing and practicisng their set and for it to end like this is not good.

You should at least get your registration money refunded. That's the least a competition should do if a judging bias is found. In FOGANA (which is a Gujju competition for raas, garba and folk which mainly highschool dancers take part in), they would have 5 judges and they would remove the highest scores and lowest scores for each team in order to find some sort of 3 median scores which would help if there was a single or two judge bias (whether good or bad). I think competitions should start doing that if they have more than 5 judges in order to prevent something like what happened to you guys.

 

[Sher Jatt]

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[manveersihota]

I think that's the stupidest shit ever. A judge gives a team 0/100 because of personal confict? That's stupid. Bhangra these days is all about politics. It's not even about the best team anymore. For real tho, 0/100 ??? Wow !!!!! I just don't know what to say.

I agree, judges shouldn't mix up personal life and professional life. that judge needs to chill, srsly.

 

[kinnell]

4 Teams. Shan-E-Punjab gets 0/100 for one judge. And they still place 3rd. The other judges thought you guys were hot and I feel bad for the 4th place team.

If there were 3 judges and SEP averages 90% on the other two cards - they get a score of 180/300, right? That means, the 4th place team got lower than 60% on an average. Obviously, as the number of judges increases, the 4th place team could have potentially gotten higher and higher average scores, but regardless, I hope SEP gets compensation for their troubles.

They should have a $200 Judging Guarantee. The competition pays you $200 at the beginning of the competition and if there's no judging fiasco, then you give it back to them, but if something like this arises, you get to keep the money. Usually, competitions don't have much to do with judging and it seems everyone gets shafted. Bad Judge Insurance seems like a good idea these days.

 

[Danny]

They should have a $200 Judging Guarantee. The competition pays you $200 at the beginning of the competition and if there's no judging fiasco, then you give it back to them, but if something like this arises, you get to keep the money. Usually, competitions don't have much to do with judging and it seems everyone gets shafted. Bad Judge Insurance seems like a good idea these days.

lol Kinnell, bringing money into a situation like this with indians would only get worse! :-X

 

[Jag`]

You should at least get your registration money refunded. That's the least a competition should do if a judging bias is found. In FOGANA (which is a Gujju competition for raas, garba and folk which mainly highschool dancers take part in), they would have 5 judges and they would remove the highest scores and lowest scores for each team in order to find some sort of 3 median scores which would help if there was a single or two judge bias (whether good or bad). I think competitions should start doing that if they have more than 5 judges in order to prevent something like what happened to you guys.

We talked to the management and they told us that according to their rules and regulations, the lowest mark given would not be counted towards the final tallying of points. So in this case they told us that even if Mr. Aujla had given us a blank scoresheet it would'nt have made any difference. But, on the other hand what he did is he increased the marks given to the other teams so to make sure that even if his scoresheet would be disregarded at least the marks he gave to the other teams would make a huge difference in the final result. Its really messed up. Our coach asked the management again yesterday morning about what happened and all they could say was that the judge said qoute on qoute " I can do whatever I please". This kind of display of unprofessionalism from a person like Mr. Aujla is one of those reasons why bhangra is going down the drain.

 

[kinnell]

lol Kinnell, bringing money into a situation like this with indians would only get worse! :-X

Wait. Wait. Wait. Do we not spend money to go to competitions? Pay registration fees in the form of money? And if we do well, do we not get paid in money? Do competitions get sponsorships in the form of money, book venues and clubs with money and negotiate hotel rates so teams can pay less money? Isn't money already involved or have I been doing this all wrong?

We talked to the management and they told us that according to their rules and regulations, the lowest mark given would not be counted towards the final tallying of points. So in this case they told us that even if Mr. Aujla had given us a blank scoresheet it would'nt have made any difference. But, on the other hand what he did is he increased the marks given to the other teams so to make sure that even if his scoresheet would be disregarded at least the marks he gave to the other teams would make a huge difference in the final result. Its really messed up. Our coach asked the management again yesterday morning about what happened and all they could say was that the judge said qoute on qoute " I can do whatever I please". This kind of display of unprofessionalism from a person like Mr. Aujla is one of those reasons why bhangra is going down the drain.

Dude, my sympathies go out to you and your team. Tell the competition that you feel you have been wronged and ask whether it is possible to get the placings WITHOUT the highest scores for each team. FOGANA did that too to prevent favoritism and it's a pretty solid system. Obviously, it will be very difficult to change the placings, but at least you have the satisfaction of knowing. If Mr. Aujla had given the other teams higher scores than they should have deserved, then without his score (which I assume will be the highest score), the discrepancy should be seen. However, if he convinced the other judges to vote in his manner OR if the other judges actually thought you guys deserved 3rd, then there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[tonygarcha]

We had a similar situation few years back at boston bhangra. After they announced the placings, the next morning, the judges called a meeting with all the team captains. They informed us that one of the judges was biased against women doing bhangra (as just boys teams placed). We agreed that to be fair, the committee would drop that judges scorings and the placings would change. By doing that the co-ed team got first, and every other team just got bumped down one. It would be wise for Nation to do that and be fair to all teams.

 

[KammyT]

0 out of a 100
wow.. :|

 

[Saleem]

Has there been a statement from Bhangra Nation on this????