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Dhol Wood Question??

jasraj93

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Hey guys. Just got a quick Question. Is there anybody that could tell me how to tell the difference with different woods for dhol? Such as whats the difference with a chitti talli, kalli talli, or amb lakhar dhols? Thankz in advance. :)
 

Gurvir

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yeah i've been looking to get a dhol too and i've had this question also....someone bless us with your dhol knowledge
 

Armaan

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to briefly explain it...

Amb - The wood of this tree is considered good, but is a lot less denser and considered inferior in sound to Kacchi pakki Talli (chitti talli) and Pakki Talli (Kalli Talli).

Kacchi Pakki Talli (Chitti Talli) - The wood for this dhol is called Kacchi Pakki, because it is not yet fully aged. You will notice a dark (reddish) and light (yellowish) gradient on the dhol. This dhol's sound is amazing and very powerful. The dhol is a bit heavier than the Amb.

Pakki Talli (Kalli Talli) - The wood for this dhol comes from the same tree as the Kacchi Pakki Talli but it is aged and very dense. The sound from this dhol is superb and very bold. The dhol is also very durable. This type of wood is not easily available and you basically wouldn't get a better sounding dhol than this....This is also usually the most expensive dhol, but its worth the investment if you're serious about picking up the dhol

hope that helped
 

Gurvir

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Armaan said:
to briefly explain it...

Amb - The wood of this tree is considered good, but is a lot less denser and considered inferior in sound to Kacchi pakki Talli (chitti talli) and Pakki Talli (Kalli Talli).

Kacchi Pakki Talli (Chitti Talli) - The wood for this dhol is called Kacchi Pakki, because it is not yet fully aged. You will notice a dark (reddish) and light (yellowish) gradient on the dhol. This dhol's sound is amazing and very powerful. The dhol is a bit heavier than the Amb.

Pakki Talli (Kalli Talli) - The wood for this dhol comes from the same tree as the Kacchi Pakki Talli but it is aged and very dense. The sound from this dhol is superb and very bold. The dhol is also very durable. This type of wood is not easily available and you basically wouldn't get a better sounding dhol than this....This is also usually the most expensive dhol, but its worth the investment if you're serious about picking up the dhol

hope that helped
wow thanks man..that helps a lot
 

Navkarn

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dang i was kind of excited to learn about what i thought was a thread on punjab's version of bollywood ... Dholwood ... sigh, my imagination was crushed :p
 

Gurvir

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Navkarn said:
dang i was kind of excited to learn about what i thought was a thread on punjab's version of bollywood ... Dholwood ... sigh, my imagination was crushed :p
haha dholwood..quite the immagination navkarn
 

jasraj93

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Is there anyone that knows how to tell the difference with the different woods? Like if you got 3 different types of wood, kalli talli, amb, and chiti talli, is there any way you can tell the difference between all of them?
 

Govind

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the primary way you can tell the difference in the sound is from the sound that the dagga makes when it hits the goat skin...
one way you can really hear the sound of the lakkar (wood) is when you strike the dagga and hold it pinned against the skin instead of letting it bounce off. in kaali taali there is an aftershock like a twang sound that happens...eh hundi eh taali di awaazzzz :)

i'm sure that other dholis can add to this...i'm not an expert by any means but i have studied under Ustad Garib Dass so all my knowledge comes from him...more from an academic perspective however b/c that and bhangra dance have always been my focus. however, i've been practicing a fair bit during my year off in india.

i have 2 kaali taali dhols and 1 amb da and the amb di lakkar is very dull sounding in comparison. also, all goat skins are not the same and require significant preparation...and MASALA works!!!

-Govind
 

Gagan.S

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You could also tell from the color of the wood

Kalli Tali is a dark brown colored wood it looks like a tree

Chiti Tali is like a whitish creamish color

Kuchi puki tali is the mix of both it is browinsh with whitish combination

and most of the time ambh di lahkar is white

The best dhol in my opinion is kalli tali ;D

Dholis plz correct me if im wrong
 

zagreus

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can this mean the return of Govind to BTF?!
man...i haven't seen anything from you in a long ass time
 

Govind

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haha i've been visiting the site and keeping up with everything regularly...just posting...it's a bit hard while hopping in and out of internet cafes...hope all is well jasmeet!
-g
 

sonny

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There are four types of woods used for Dhols

Amb
It looks like light yellow.
Good Wood

Sheesham or Taahli
Four types of Taahi, All White, All Black, White and Red and All Red
Very good Wood.

Sareenh
All black wood can be found in hills of north India.
Very Good Wood also

Akhrot
White wood and light
The best wood you can get for Dhol
Very hard to find it.

The wood should be light but strong. The hardness of the wood is especially important in determining the quality of tone of a dhol.
 

Basim

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sonny said:
There are four types of woods used for Dhols

Amb
It looks like light yellow.
Good Wood

Sheesham or Taahli
Four types of Taahi, All White, All Black, White and Red and All Red
Very good Wood.

Sareenh
All black wood can be found in hills of north India.
Very Good Wood also

Akhrot
White wood and light
The best wood you can get for Dhol
Very hard to find it.

The wood should be light but strong. The hardness of the wood is especially important in determining the quality of tone of a dhol.
Way to jack another person's words without even citing your source ::) Mr. Sonny's quote is taken from the website below.

EVERYTHING you will EVER need to know about dhols can be find here: http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~hcritz/dholpages/construction1.html

Hope that helps,

~ Basim
 

Gaurav

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pritpal94 said:
Saab said:
Does anyone know how to get an akhrot dhol?
Got to go to Amritsar and check out the dhol stores there.
if u are talking about the stores between the Golden temple and jalean wala bagg, its caled BAWA something, they also have a location in BC, then DONT go there, they dont sell dhols as in a bhangra dhol, they sell AMB dhols and tell u they are chitti talli, or will paint up a dhol, but if u are talking about somewhere else in amritsar, then pls tell me where, cuz im from amritsar and i also want to get a dhol from india when i go in the summer. i am trying to get a hold from ustaad Raj Kumar from some khalsa college Amritsar guys, if i do get a link to him, i will let u guys no
 
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