Elite 8 predictions

[Bharathi]

not meaning to start any arguing or anything, but i dont exactly see how some of those rival teams (they dont need to be mentioned) will exactly want to grade each other accurately. If team A and team B have a history of close placings and maybe some controversy, I don't see how one would admit that the others set was good/better than theres ya know?

I think it's set up so your team's appointed "judge" can't judge the two teams before and after your own teams performance, but you have a say in the other ones that are competing.

So if the rival teams are performing far away enough from one another there shouldn't be a problem

I think it's an interesting idea, but I have to agree with Danny it does seem like it's asking for trouble especially with teams of this calibre.

 

[Nikhil]

I trust my peers regardless of what the speculated rivalries may be. Respect is given when you have proven winners in 1 competition, so everyone knows everyone is capable. This is not a modern comp nor is it a traditional one. This is a competition to see who is the best among the most successful teams in the circuit, and having us evaluate each other is the essence of equality and fairness. Again, I trust everyone and every other team does as well, otherwise you would see a change in the line up NOW.

It's not going to happen, all teams are committed and it's an excellent idea. Teams always fuel the fire about judging being a problem, now we can be the solution. If we can't we have ourselves to blame. Teams are gonna bring it without worrying who says what. Let your set do the talking.

 

[faizan]

To avoid judging bias, there must be transparency. Every competition pledges it, but rarely come through, but the score sheets should be posted on BTF/the internet. If team judges know that their comments and scores will be published, they will be less likely to score low.

 

[rajkaran]

damn. that has trouble written all over it.

i concur...even though it really gets the teams involved in the judging process and can promote team respect, I have a hard time seeing all teams respecting each other. I also hate to say it, but I can easily imagine rumors flying before the afterparty...then fists flying AT the afterparty.

However, should this type of judging prove fruitful, it'd be nice to see it at more competitions...

just my two cents...

 

[Gagan-Gill]

Nachdi jawanii!!

 

[Kartik]

Unless someone tells the crowd to shut up and not scream and go crazy when BE pulls off crazy formations, I think they're probably gonna win. UNLESS the judges are bhangra experts and critique the dances in the way they should (and are not influenced by the crowd but I doubt that).

I say BE wins it.....not that I think they should...but they will.

I def disagree; especially with judges being from directly within the community, I highly doubt the usual things that get BE their high placings probably won't be as impressive to the team judges.

 

[Bharathi]

To avoid judging bias, there must be transparency. Every competition pledges it, but rarely come through, but the score sheets should be posted on BTF/the internet. If team judges know that their comments and scores will be published, they will be less likely to score low.

I think that's a great idea! If not posted at least given to the teams right away. Of all the comps we have done, only ONE has given us our score sheets before we left the theater.

 

[yraparla]

To avoid judging bias, there must be transparency. Every competition pledges it, but rarely come through, but the score sheets should be posted on BTF/the internet. If team judges know that their comments and scores will be published, they will be less likely to score low.

A lot of times the comp gives the team their scoresheets instead of posting it out of respect for the teams involved. Then you have the issue of only some teams posting and not others (which only fuels more speculation).

Only solution is a competition steps up and says it will be posted online, and then you have to find judges that deal with it. Very few comps have the resources to afford adding such operating obstacles

 

[yraparla]

Moderator's Note: Added a poll

 

[ankd21]

imma go with LBC.

 

[KingGeorge]

judges are bhangra experts and critique the dances in the way they should

It's THE Elite 8 bhangra competition, let's hope so.

 

[Kush]

To avoid judging bias, there must be transparency. Every competition pledges it, but rarely come through, but the score sheets should be posted on BTF/the internet. If team judges know that their comments and scores will be published, they will be less likely to score low.

A lot of times the comp gives the team their scoresheets instead of posting it out of respect for the teams involved. Then you have the issue of only some teams posting and not others (which only fuels more speculation).

Only solution is a competition steps up and says it will be posted online, and then you have to find judges that deal with it. Very few comps have the resources to afford adding such operating obstacles

Oh yes, good idea. Except when one team judge gives a team a lower score than they think they deserved, call them out for undercutting, and the afterparty goes to shit because of a fight, regardless of whether or not the score was a legitimate assessment.

In addition, the team judge may give a hgihest score of a 90!. we've all had professors in college that refuse to give more than one A, or make sure that "average" is a 75. wheres the normalization, particularly when only select teams are going to be judged by a particular judge? i mean i dont know all the details but this comes to mind for me.

with that being said, i still think SGPD is gonna bring this home, but who really knows? too much talent at this comp.

 

[Saleem]

To avoid judging bias, there must be transparency. Every competition pledges it, but rarely come through, but the score sheets should be posted on BTF/the internet. If team judges know that their comments and scores will be published, they will be less likely to score low.

The potential for bias is both judging low and judging others artificially high. I support transparency: I think each team should absolutely get the comments from the judges, and I am supportive of competitions who distribute the scoresheets to the individual team captains. Additionally, teams should get time with the judges to review feedback and ask questions. I do not think teams have a right to see other teams' scores and comments, though, out of respect for each team. In the end, a team must see who is judging and whether they have credible judging results behind them when evaluating a competition.

 

[Saleem]

In addition, the team judge may give a hgihest score of a 90!. we've all had professors in college that refuse to give more than one A, or make sure that "average" is a 75. wheres the normalization, particularly when only select teams are going to be judged by a particular judge? i mean i dont know all the details but this comes to mind for me.

SPOT ON. Team Unnamed asked me why I gave Unnamed a lower score than the other judge(s) did. They therefore concluded that I was the reason they placed lower. Unnamed did not take into consideration that the score I gave them is only relevant to the score I gave the other team-- it is THIS difference that is important, not what the other judges gave. Convoluted story w/o naming the competition, teams, or other judges, but I hope that's clear.

 

[Jason]

Damn you cant even predict this one. But all the teams are gna bring it...basically this is the best of the best for music so if you fuck up on stage once you can kiss that 1st place trophy goodbye!

Teams that are favored in my opinion (no particular order) n why:
VCU - so clean and they execute every move as one
Empire - May not be traditional but they can bring it as a unit and all dance alike
SGPD - watch the Idols video!
NJ - as long as theyre clean they are one of the best

I dont know if they best set is gna win this one; its gna take a lot more and if i had to pick a favorite it would be VCU because of how well they dance together and how everyone is so identical on stage. NJ and SGPD will bring the extra WOW factor and own the stage which they always do but they gta execute from start to finish.

Just my opinion on how i see things, nothing personal. Ill be there watching tho n cant wait. These teams have proven themselves to be at this comp. Gna be one hell of a night!

 

[latetext]

1. nachdi jawani
2. bhangra empire
3. vcu

 

[MPElive]

Personally, I really liked the idea where the judges are able to meet with team captains before and after the competition (Bhangra Allstars & Desi Dhamaka). Bhangra in the Burgh committee setup a meeting with all the judges and team captains after the competition so the feedback can be provided.

I am not sure if Elite 8 committee is planning on doing this but let me tell ya, it's an awesome idea. I am not liking the idea of team captain judging other performances as it's gonna cause alot of havoc later on. I just hope everything goes smoothly at the afterparty

Good Luck to all the competing teams as it's gonna be one hell of a show.

 

[Mike B]

isn't this kind of how they judged that coke comp in india last summer? it seemed like peers were involved in the judging, providing comments and whatnot...

this is a tough one to call, i could see anybody takin this one. good luck to all the teams, im sure it will be a lot of fun

 

[Pooja]

isn't this kind of how they judged that coke comp in india last summer? it seemed like peers were involved in the judging, providing comments and whatnot...

Yes, I think it was the same way that one on mh1 was judged!

I was told by some of the organizers that the judging sheets will be up on BTF the next couple of days after the competition...so that's good for transparency.

I love the one winner idea but that's going to be so haaaard, what if there's a tie?!

 

[BDR Official Fan]

isn't this kind of how they judged that coke comp in india last summer? it seemed like peers were involved in the judging, providing comments and whatnot...

Yes, I think it was the same way that one on mh1 was judged!

I was told by some of the organizers that the judging sheets will be up on BTF the next couple of days after the competition...so that's good for transparency.

I love the one winner idea but that's going to be so haaaard, what if there's a tie?!

Well if there is a tie then I think that each team should send its 4 best dancer on stage to compete in a 2 minute dance off against the other team on a song of the judges choice. To me that would be awesome, but I doubt that would happen because I think there will be a winner in this one.