How bhangra should be done Folk

[Karan P Singh]

well then, Even though I ment what I said Nothing against the dancers Alot of talented dancers out there obviously people have different ideas on how Bhangra should be so it is what it is

 

[faizan]

Because that's just not where the circuit is at anymore. A lot has changed since 2008. Embrace it or become a relic.

 

[Karan P Singh]

Because that's just not where the circuit is at anymore. A lot has changed since 2008. Embrace it or become a relic.

So your telling me the circuit is moving farther and farther away from real bhangra? Now I don't disagree with a little bit of modernization Im a fan of AEG and a whole lot of teams now adays but the shit im seeing now adays in a majority of teams just to me isn't how it should be done

 

[Harman]

If avap 08 is the only comp uve seen then you my friend are completely misled about where the circuit. What you consider folk, is an evolved form of the bhangra that came before it. So if u ask me the circuit is exactly where it needs to be.... quit tryna preach nd just let ppl dance

 

[HarmanToor]

I don't agree with these folk topics. If you're doing bhangra to music, you can be as original as you want with the moves but you're still not folk. Folk bhangra is done on dhol and dhol only, everything else is a form of modern bhangra. 2008 was modern bhangra and 2012-2013 will continue to be the same modern bhangra but just further evolved, it was never really folk in the first place.

And the scene isn't moving further and further away from bhangra, the effort is just more concentrated on getting first place and doing what it takes to get that trophy rather then putting on a nostalgic old school flavored show for fans, which is totally understandable when considering the costs/time that goes into making a set, + that oldschool bhangra looks a lot easier to perform then the routines being danced on stage today, so maybe dancers just like the challenge of it too? not sure about that since I'm not a dancer but when something gets easy or repetitive, evolving or increasing the difficulty is usually the next step.



deep down inside we all love this new shit, cuz its da bomb! who wouldn't want to see some crazy stunts being performed live?! modern all the wayyy

 

[Karan P Singh]

There's nothing wrong with being somewhat modern I love bhangra I've been following it and doing it for years now, Teams now adays are real entertaining to watch with all the modernized things they do but it is moving further and further from the Origin. Now when I say this I'm talking about co ed teams not teams like AEG and NYPD that you guys are affiliated with. I love modern All guy teams but Alot of performances now adays look rather like an act than an actual bhangra performance.

 

[Gurmandanceacademy]

Live Bhangra use to be totally different in India compared to what it is now. Thats like saying you prefer a flip phone over an Iphone things change move on!!!! example:

then:
surjit singh Bindrakhia rare collection.m4v

now:
SCD Govt College LUDHIANA Bhangra Winning performance Of PU Inter zonal 2012

 

[Gurmandanceacademy]

all teams now still have the traditional steps in the routines just because they add a gimmick or different formations and dont dance in 2 lines all the time doesnt mean they are getting further and further it means they are getting creative. they just add twists to make it even better and fun watch live teams in India they have modern twists to it too.

 

[Karan P Singh]

Live Bhangra use to be totally different in India compared to what it is now. Thats like saying you prefer a flip phone over an Iphone things change move on!!!! example:

then:
surjit singh Bindrakhia rare collection.m4v

now:
SCD Govt College LUDHIANA Bhangra Winning performance Of PU Inter zonal 2012

Thats atleast sticking to the roots its relevant and somewhat similar. You cant compare amazing performances to those to teams like UNC now adays etc etc These live teams are ina way different and better league

 

[Gurmandanceacademy]

ok well if its such a problem to you my friend just watch live teams dont even bother watching Nort American bhangra teams.

 

[Saleem]

If you're doing bhangra to music, you can be as original as you want with the moves but you're still not folk. Folk bhangra is done on dhol and dhol only, everything else is a form of modern bhangra.

"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again."

 

[Karan P Singh]

all teams now still have the traditional steps in the routines just because they add a gimmick or different formations and dont dance in 2 lines all the time doesnt mean they are getting further and further it means they are getting creative. they just add twists to make it even better and fun watch live teams in India they have modern twists to it too.

So less emphasis on dancing and more on gimicks can win you a competition, For example
UNC brought a marching band to that one competition but lets face it The performance was Wack
thats just one example NYPD killed it that performance and Ik thats modernized but it still looks Sick As Hell, Alot of co ed modernized teams are just doing retarded gimicks

 

[smp]

I'm not a big bhangra critic but watching videos from back in 08 they just seem way more slow paced and not as exciting. Compared to now where I can actually watch a full performance and not be bored cause its not as predictable

 

[Karan P Singh]

ok well if its such a problem to you my friend just watch live teams dont even bother watching Nort American bhangra teams.

Live teams isn't the only sick performances out there teams like
NJ, Virsa, Shan e, BC Cult, AG, NYPD, FS, BMW, and other teams are all some what modern but they STick to there roots and still are Amazing compared to other Co ed teams that just isnt bhangra too me at all

 

[Karan P Singh]

I'm not a big bhangra critique but watching videos from back in 08 they just seem way more slow paced and not as exciting. Compared to now where I can actually watch a full performance and not be bored cause its not as predictable

Well I just used those as examples, I can show you alot of teams now adays that are similar to this but still modern but Stillll stick to the roots
-NYPD, NJ, AG, Shan E, Etc Etc Etc

 

[amancheema]

Enjoy the diversity of videos, music, and competitions my friend.. and try to appreciate the creativity and hard work that goes into every performance.


But if co-ed/"modern" really isn't your cup of tea, then don't watch it.

 

[Karan P Singh]

If avap 08 is the only comp uve seen then you my friend are completely misled about where the circuit. What you consider folk, is an evolved form of the bhangra that came before it. So if u ask me the circuit is exactly where it needs to be.... quit tryna preach nd just let ppl dance

The Circuit isnt exactly where it needs to be at all When alot of teams performances just look like Acts. You can be modern but still stick to Folk roots and A whole lot of teams do that but a Lotttt do not.

 

[Karan P Singh]

Enjoy the diversity of videos, music, and competitions my friend.. and try to appreciate the creativity and hard work that goes into every performance.


But if co-ed/"modern" really isn't your cup of tea, then don't watch it.

I'm just speaking my mind man. I'm just real blunt about a few topics and this happens to be one of them. I do enjoy creativity and hard work that teams put in but they should stick to the roots

 

[smp]

If avap 08 is the only comp uve seen then you my friend are completely misled about where the circuit. What you consider folk, is an evolved form of the bhangra that came before it. So if u ask me the circuit is exactly where it needs to be.... quit tryna preach nd just let ppl dance

The Circuit isnt exactly where it needs to be at all When alot of teams performances just look like Acts. You can be modern but still stick to Folk roots and A whole lot of teams do that but a Lotttt do not.

you're in this by yourself man haha goodluck!

 

[Basim]

Karan, for the sake of humanity, please stop this thread from progressing. As a veteran of the BTF community, I can't even tell you how of many of these "folk" vs "modern" threads we've had in the past.

If you really want answers to your questions (especially when you bring up 2008), why not go back and read some of the post from around that time period from people who were dancing on teams at the time or were closely following the circuit? I'm not even sure the majority of people on BTF or dancing nowadays even remember the AVAP competition.

Here is a big "Modern vs. Traditional bhangra" thread from early 2009: http://bhangrateamsforum.com/discuss/main-bhangra-discussion/re-modern-vs-traditional-bhangra-round-547/

Other topics that touch on the issue are below -
"Modern vs Traditional Competitions": http://bhangrateamsforum.com/discuss/main-bhangra-discussion/modern-or-traditional-competition-which-one-do-you-prefer/
"Is Live Bhangra Dead?": http://bhangrateamsforum.com/discuss/main-bhangra-discussion/after-reading-what-turbo-wrote-is-live-bhangra-dead/

Additionally, go read the relevant posts of Gibb Schreffler who has done IMMENSE research on the topic of how "folk" bhangra started and how it progressed to the stage. In particular, check out this thread: A visual history of bhangra


After you've done your "homework," I would be glad to have a discussion if you aren't satisfied with everything that has been discussed/talked about already.

~ Basim