how to gain more muscle

[sartajjudge]

Take steroids

 

[Amanpaul]

hain?

Haha yea I noticed that too...
Honestly it's not just the age thing but you are really thin... You shouldn't start lifting yet, all you need to do is eat. It's obvious you're not consuming enough already to meet your caloric needs while doing both bhangra and basketball. If you add weights to the mix you will get a little stronger but will add no mass with your eating habits and activities.
Focus on one thing right now, get to a decent size for bhangra and basketball.

lol so you're saying he shouldnt start lifting because he is too thin? that doesnt make any sense. that is the reason pple start lifting, because they dont want to be thin anymore. how will he put on muscle if he doesnt lift?


EDIT: accidentally wrote "life" at the end instead of "lift" haha

lol no that's not what I meant. of course skinny people lift, no one walks into a gym deezed... I was saying that he's not putting enough into his body to keep up with his current activities. With his eating habits and activities, weight training wouldn't add much mass.

 

[Gurbir23]

get real high and make the kitchen your bitch

 

[gifty]

Gurbir is spot on. Many professional athletes start lifting when they are 14 (usual age for a High School freshman) and their growth is def. not stunned. Just work out hard and smart. First few weeks might lead to extreme soreness (esp if you have never lifted before) so rest is def. pivotal to your muscle growth .... Also, you will grow with age as well... so be patient.... It's a long run, but one that is very well worth it .

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

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[Remy]

Figure out your daily caloric maintenance requirement then eat 200 calories over that each day and train hard. You'll gain like 12 lbs of solid muscle in a year with like no fat!! yee yee

 

[Nikhil]

I'm really curious to know how many of you are certified or have degrees in Exercise Science/Physiology and Nutrition?
Not to be a jackass, but telling a 14 year old kid to eat a whole shit load IS HOW YOU DEVELOP CHRONIC DISEASES down the line. Please, do not drink whole milk. 2 percent will suffice. Someone mentioned something about not lifting at all. No, that's too extreme. What you need to do is strength train against resistance or weight that is proportional to your body weight (i.e., Pushups, Pullups, and squats). Yes, you definitely do need to have a positive caloric intake, but don't over eat! This will make your bball stamina deteriorate because you will have excess weight that you need to run with. The goal is to maintain your cardiovascular fitness at your young age while improving your strength for your skill position! What position do you play currently?

 

[Nikhil]

Regarding growth plate fusion; the end growth plates stay open for a range of ages through what is considered puberty. Unless you have an underlying pathological condition that will affect the health of the growth plate in proportion to the actual shaft of the bone, you CAN weight lift at this age. Gurbir is legit haha.

Also, the kid is 14...fast metabolism anyone? He's thin b/c he's playing basketball everyday probably and he's young! Eating more than you should is going to induce a lot of gastrointestinal stress, so lil' homey should eat smart.

 

[Nikhil]

hain?

Haha yea I noticed that too...
Honestly it's not just the age thing but you are really thin... You shouldn't start lifting yet, all you need to do is eat. It's obvious you're not consuming enough already to meet your caloric needs while doing both bhangra and basketball. If you add weights to the mix you will get a little stronger but will add no mass with your eating habits and activities.
Focus on one thing right now, get to a decent size for bhangra and basketball.

lol so you're saying he shouldnt start lifting because he is too thin? that doesnt make any sense. that is the reason pple start lifting, because they dont want to be thin anymore. how will he put on muscle if he doesnt lift?


EDIT: accidentally wrote "life" at the end instead of "lift" haha

lol no that's not what I meant. of course skinny people lift, no one walks into a gym deezed... I was saying that he's not putting enough into his body to keep up with his current activities. With his eating habits and activities, weight training wouldn't add much mass.

Weight training would add a significant amount to his body mass. The first four weeks of weight training will result in a neurological hypertrophic growth pattern that allows for an increase in motor unit size. The more muscle fibers that can tack onto 1 given motor nerve, the bigger the muscle, the greater the force/velocity of the movement of that muscle = evidence that weight training is significant.

 

[Gurbir23]

Regarding growth plate fusion; the end growth plates stay open for a range of ages through what is considered puberty. Unless you have an underlying pathological condition that will affect the health of the growth plate in proportion to the actual shaft of the bone, you CAN weight lift at this age. Gurbir is legit haha.

Also, the kid is 14...fast metabolism anyone? He's thin b/c he's playing basketball everyday probably and he's young! Eating more than you should is going to induce a lot of gastrointestinal stress, so lil' homey should eat smart.

Gastrointestinal stress will result after a sudden increase in food intake but the way he proportions his macros and his plan of action when increasing his caloric intake has a large part to do with how his body will respond. If he takes the right approach for both conditions, I think a negative alimentary and endocrine response can easily be averted.

 

[Nikhil]

That is true. It all depends on how you ration the food. But if he's going to ration food based on a completely extended dietary schedule, that will stress his system. Simply put, he just needs to eat smart. Definitely eat to slightly overshadow your expenditure of calories, but don't go overboard. Also you don't want to have him get the "itis".

Ethnic Fatigue aka. The Itis...

I'm not endorsing this haha

 

[itsG]

I'm really curious to know how many of you are certified or have degrees in Exercise Science/Physiology and Nutrition?
Not to be a jackass, but telling a 14 year old kid to eat a whole shit load IS HOW YOU DEVELOP CHRONIC DISEASES down the line. Please, do not drink whole milk. 2 percent will suffice. Someone mentioned something about not lifting at all. No, that's too extreme. What you need to do is strength train against resistance or weight that is proportional to your body weight (i.e., Pushups, Pullups, and squats). Yes, you definitely do need to have a positive caloric intake, but don't over eat! This will make your bball stamina deteriorate because you will have excess weight that you need to run with. The goal is to maintain your cardiovascular fitness at your young age while improving your strength for your skill position! What position do you play currently?

chill.....whole milk all the way...honestly throughout my whole life i've had 2 percent for i think 2 days and yes there have been days when i drink a gallon a day.


kid look some people are just skinny..especially if they have genes from a parent thats skinny (usually the mom...like i do) being skinny doesnt mean your not as strong as the other person..and yea im sure every aunty/uncle/dada/dadi see's u and goes "putt roti nahi mildi" and all that B.S. but thats cuz they just dont understand. Im skinny and not like ur avg skinny i mean skinny like i could use a few pounds too but honestly my workout partner looks twice as huge as me but i lift more when we're at the gym so size doesn't always tell the truth you might have alot less body fat than the avg. person and no aunty/uncle/dada/dadi is gonna sit there and understand that
and yea pushups/pullups help (do pullups) pushups are just gonna kinda get you a bit size on your chest and get you cut. u dont want manboobs or a chest that stretches your shirt but then your abs dont fit so focus on pullups or just chinups for now not even pullups cuz you dont need lats just arms at first.

 

[Nikhil]

I'm really curious to know how many of you are certified or have degrees in Exercise Science/Physiology and Nutrition?
Not to be a jackass, but telling a 14 year old kid to eat a whole shit load IS HOW YOU DEVELOP CHRONIC DISEASES down the line. Please, do not drink whole milk. 2 percent will suffice. Someone mentioned something about not lifting at all. No, that's too extreme. What you need to do is strength train against resistance or weight that is proportional to your body weight (i.e., Pushups, Pullups, and squats). Yes, you definitely do need to have a positive caloric intake, but don't over eat! This will make your bball stamina deteriorate because you will have excess weight that you need to run with. The goal is to maintain your cardiovascular fitness at your young age while improving your strength for your skill position! What position do you play currently?

chill.....whole milk all the way...honestly throughout my whole life i've had 2 percent for i think 2 days and yes there have been days when i drink a gallon a day.


kid look some people are just skinny..especially if they have genes from a parent thats skinny (usually the mom...like i do) being skinny doesnt mean your not as strong as the other person..and yea im sure every aunty/uncle/dada/dadi see's u and goes "putt roti nahi mildi" and all that B.S. but thats cuz they just dont understand. Im skinny and not like ur avg skinny i mean skinny like i could use a few pounds too but honestly my workout partner looks twice as huge as me but i lift more when we're at the gym so size doesn't always tell the truth you might have alot less body fat than the avg. person and no aunty/uncle/dada/dadi is gonna sit there and understand that
and yea pushups/pullups help (do pullups) pushups are just gonna kinda get you a bit size on your chest and get you cut. u dont want manboobs or a chest that stretches your shirt but then your abs dont fit so focus on pullups or just chinups for now not even pullups cuz you dont need lats just arms at first.

Okay, you have to understand that being desi means we are predisposed to certain genetic factors having to do with our diet and how we utilize what we eat. You know that we cook with a lot of ghee, and a lot of extra stuff that we should eat. North Indian/Gujarati/Punjabi food is NOT healthy in general. So, to encourage whole milk consumption is a bad idea in my opinion. Sure you get your fat soluble vitamins, but you get a whole lot of fat and cholesterol with it too.

I agree with you about just being skinny 100 percent.

Pullups and chin ups are the same action, you are working your lats regardless but the pronation in your forearm in chin ups work your forearms, and for his age, he should work his larger muscles over his smaller ones.

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

I'm really curious to know how many of you are certified or have degrees in Exercise Science/Physiology and Nutrition?
Not to be a jackass, but telling a 14 year old kid to eat a whole shit load IS HOW YOU DEVELOP CHRONIC DISEASES down the line. Please, do not drink whole milk. 2 percent will suffice. Someone mentioned something about not lifting at all. No, that's too extreme. What you need to do is strength train against resistance or weight that is proportional to your body weight (i.e., Pushups, Pullups, and squats). Yes, you definitely do need to have a positive caloric intake, but don't over eat! This will make your bball stamina deteriorate because you will have excess weight that you need to run with. The goal is to maintain your cardiovascular fitness at your young age while improving your strength for your skill position! What position do you play currently?

Brospeh, he has more chances for chronic diseases if he doesn't fix his weight problem right now. I don't think anyone is advocating for him to eat like a horse for the rest of his life but he needs a huge caloric surplus if he wants to gain any appreciable body mass. I don't think it will lead to any significant long term health problems if he drinks lots of whole milk and eats like a madman to make up for all the calories he is burning doing bball, bhangra or whatever. Whole milk gets a bad rap from diet people and people in the media but its a red herring and there are other factors much more important for considering stuff like cardiovascular health. I had my bloodwork tested since I switched to whole milk last year and my levels came back fine and better than usual. I know that is an n=1 example but just some food for thought.

If anything his skill will improve when he weighs more, keep in mind all the weight he would put on is not fat, there would be significant muscle added that aids in the athletic movements in basketball. For the average guy who isnt blessed with the genetics of a natural dunker the squat and powerclean are utilized to increase the vertical. Basketball isn't a strictly aerobic activity, there is a large anaerobic portion too so you need to develop both pathways.

There is ways he can incorporate getting stronger and gaining weight while playing bball. He just has to take advantage of the offseason and use that time wisely and focus on lifting first. Then a few weeks before season starts you can cut back and condition into shape for basketball. Players do this all the time with great success, I trained some of my brothers basketball buddies last summer and helped them put on some weight and they are playing better than ever. Could be I was right but could also be these are kids on the upper echelon of genetic potential in the first place so anything would have worked, haha.

About the chinups and pullups thing it really depends on what your grip is at well, if it is well outside your shoulders then it is a drastically different motion. The normal pullup grip is a bit wider and uses the upper back musculature more heavily than the chinup since in the chinup the biceps are heavily utilized. Tricks to getting huge biceps for any bros reading this is to do weighted chins 2x a week till failure for 3 sets.

 

[COMTONDAJATT]

I think the main reason most people advise whole milk for people looking to gain weight is this.

1. you need to get used to eat more than usual. manorexia is huge nowadays with kids thinking they don't look good unless they have a 6pack. sad shit know. milk conditions you to do that.
2. it is really hard to get an accurate measurement on how much is a few hundred calories over maintenance when you are doing so many different things like bball/bhangra/lifting. so the milk makes sure you are over your caloric surplus and giving your body some building blocks to adapt with.
3. when a person first starts working out they have the capacity to recover from heavy training very quickly and gain lots of strength, this is why you see so many newbie gains from kids in the gym for a month or two but nothing or minimal gains the next year or so. the reason is because as you get closer to genetic strength potential your training becomes more complex and you require a larger stimulus to disrupt homeostasis. the larger stimulus is usually more weight. this makes recovery more important and for essentially centuries before protein powder was invented or grilled chicken was available people drank whole milk to recover. its a perfect mix of the macronutrients your body needs to recover.