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nb0913

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kobe - 14 seasons in the nba
lebron - 7

obviously, kobe's gonna have more rings...why do ppl keep feeling th eneed to make that comparison? compare them when their careers are over, 10-15 years from now.

if lebron had stayed in cleveland, and never won, he'd be like a charles barkely, great player but no rings. even then ppl still wouldn't get off his nuts and they would say "yea he was good but he never had it what it took to win it all". now that he's gone to a team that has a solid chance at winning, people are still on his nuts, saying he bailed. there was nothing left in cleveland, all the other big free agents had already signed. the only other place that made even a little sense for him to go, in terms of knowing he had help, was CHICAGO. knicks and nets are 2 of the most pathetic franchises at the moment, and aren't going ANYWHERE. what's the difference if lebron goes from cavs to knicks/nets? he's the only person carrying the team either way. he went to miami, because he wants to win. because he knows to be mentioned in the same conversations 50 years from now, with jordan, bird, kareem, kobe etc., he's gonna have to win. WHO GIVES A SHIT IF HE HAD 2 OTHER GOOD PLAYERS WITH HIM??? he still won! every player down to the last benchwarmer who wipes the sweat off the coaches ass gets that ring. he'll be remembered as part of the greatest threesome (no sexual reference intended) to play. yea, he still has to prove that they can do it. yea, they still need to build a roster around those 3. but if those 3 stars (james, bosh, wade) can take less money to build an amazing team, you better bet your ass that a few smaller role players are gonna be down to take less money for the oppurtunity to play with these greats.
 

Laddi

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Sorry didn't read your second response before posting lol Ive said what i had to say...topic can go on forever...as more and more will continue to cry...NOT GONNA CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY :)

In conclusion, Please get over the hate, it just makes you Lakers fans look more threatened. Good luck to you team next year. :)

GO LEBRON!!! <3
 

COMTONDAJATT

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I am pretty damn sure that if Lebron stayed with the Cavs they would win 60 games again. Even with the 3 max players and a roster of minimums the Heat wouldnt win more.

If he wanted to win the Bulls were a better fit. I think the thing is he does not have that willingness to lead a team. He does not possess that quality that Al Pacino so fittingly described in his Inches speech from Any Given Sunday.

It is a game of inches. And the one who is willing to die for that inch will come out on top. Lebron is not willing to die.
 

Kush

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Hey everyone, sane discussions and blind ones alike. Lets not divert from the thread. The topic was not "Lebron chose miami and now lets go back to comparing Kobe and Lebron". Jesus. The reason people always fight to compare is because Kobe fans are trying to validate themselves constantly, putting lebron fans on the defensive.

Fuck you all, Wade is better than both. Done, now can we please stop?

Lebron is GOING to win a ring with this miami team, and FINALLY all this "rings are for kings" bullshit will stop. I agree, Lebron is NOT a closer. THIS IS WHY HE NEEDS WADE! THIS IS ALSO WHY NO ONE PLAYER NO MATTER HOW GOOD CAN WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP ON HIS OWN! Not jordan, not lebron, not wade, not kobe, not magic, not bird, not ANYONE! IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

Compton, i agree 100%. I was VERY VERY SHOCKED that lebron strayed away from the bulls and didnt shock us all yesterday. That team was ALREADY built and is STILL built without him. theyre going to run alot of peoples shit. but this team, in my opinion this year, but even if not this year WILL WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. okay? i'm not even gonna give my full opinion. MINIMUM one. Lebron will walk home with a ring, id put a million i dont have on it.

You know the FUNNY thing is about fans, especially lakers fans, is first: Even if lebron stayed in Cleveland, everyone would have said "oh well he's loyal but hell NEVER get a ring now. fuck lebron". Now that he left, everyones saying "oh hes a little bitch, and he'll never be on Kobe's level" some even say "he still wont get a ring, this team won't work.

The second funniest thing is that these "hardcore LA fans" (sorry LA, ya'll are bitching the most so i'm coming for you all), not ALL but 99%, are more worried about what lebron does than what LA is doing to ENSURE it makes it back to the championship next year. Steve Blake signed with LA. For those of you LA fans who dont know any players outside your team, he was PG for the clippers, the unloved team of your beautiful city. and he's DOPE. and he's now a LAKER. THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR YOU GUYS. get off the lebron shit talking and worrying about what the heat are gonna do, and make sure to check in house to see what Phil and the rest of the guys in LA are doing to make sure we, the heat, don't wipe the floor with your asses next year. Thank you, come again.


EDIT: before people get all huffy about me calling you shitty fans, be smart. I am not calling all of you out, i'm just not namign the few of you with genuine LOGIC to your basketball discussion/criticisms. You know who you are, as do I. It really is all love.

...as always, signed with love :)
 

Kush

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COMTONDAJATT said:
I am pretty damn sure that if Lebron stayed with the Cavs they would win 60 games again. Even with the 3 max players and a roster of minimums the Heat wouldnt win more.

If he wanted to win the Bulls were a better fit. I think the thing is he does not have that willingness to lead a team. He does not possess that quality that Al Pacino so fittingly described in his Inches speech from Any Given Sunday.

It is a game of inches. And the one who is willing to die for that inch will come out on top. Lebron is not willing to die.
Comton, disagreed. The Cavs were on a decline man. Shaq's contract is up, people have their game figured out. This Heat team, even with Chalmers and fucking Joel Anthony is gonna be in the mid 50's for wins MINIMUM. lets see what ensues, especially with those two big boy centers we picked up second round (pat riley is all seeing all knowing. He knew from the beginning :) ). Regardless, doesn't make sense playign the what if game about the cavs with lebron in 2011... cause that shit is overr.
 

[Sher] Imran

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Kush, we're locked and loaded and stoked about signing a PG that can actually contribute more than 2 PPG, we're ready to rock and can't wait to play MIA. There seems to be a double standard, as Kobe has been put through the wringer, but LBJ seems to getting some of it now too. People that incessantly say Kobe will never be on MJ's level are the same ones to say that LBJ has leapfrogged everyone for MJ status- and that is what makes us mad. I love DWade, his game is ill and he's a god damn warrior on the court. I don't want this to tarnish what he's all about. Some people that I talked to (no not Laker fans) echoed similar sentiments. There was something special about MIA being Wade's team, and there was something fun about watching him trying to elevate people in the pursuit of winning. This is a huge upgrade for Miami but I think it comes at a price. We get to miss out on two superstars bring the best out of each other on opposite teams. Sure they'll toss a ton of alleyoops and make at least 4 out of the top 10 daily highlights on sportscenter, but it sucks knowing that we will never see another LBJ/Wade battle again like we saw this season. I want to see how Miami fills out this roster, that by far is Riley's biggest task.
 

AnkurK

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I want to be the best
I want to be the best that ever played
That's why I play the game
And to be the best you have to win
That's what drives me

[NBA analyst talking]
He's the best player in the game
It's just that simple
There's nothing that Kobe Bryant can't do
He will defend your best player
He will shoot from the perimeter
He will get all in yo mug
He will do whatever it takes
He is the most complete basketball player
In the game today - bar none
He has an assassins mentality
I said this week, I said this when the trade went down
And I will repeat it again
Who's starving more for an NBA World Championship
More than Kobe Bryant? There is no one
This guy is Hollywood

What separates Kobe from the pack?
More than Kobe Bryant, there is no one

[Lil' Wayne]
OK
Kobe doin' work
Two-four on my shirt
He the greatest on the court
And I'm the greatest on the verse
Going for the 4th ring like it was his first
Gotta get the bling
Do it for Kareem!
Two-four so nice, my flow so mean
Catch me at the game sitting next to Goldestein
Kobe Bryant Nikes, purple gold strings,
Kobe in the game dunking on your team
Black Mamba, attack conquer
Basketball beast, rap monster
Crossover good, a turnaround jumper
Or just drive in the lane and dunk on dunkers
You know where it's going, it's going down yo
This is the Lakeshow, but don't drown though
I call him King Bryant, now let the crown show

[Talking]
I'm definitely, I'm just lost for words
I mean, he's amazing

[Lil' Wayne]
Pass me the damn ball
I don't need a pick at all
And don't worry 'bout my shot
'Cause I'ma get that off
Yea, I drops 40 on your double team
Then I drop 81 on another team
Yeah, you better guard me with caution
And watch I work 'em like an auction
No such thing as exhaustion
No time for resting
'Cause I don't take breaks
I just break records
And I prefer the ball with 3 seconds
And I bet we gon' win it all in 3 seconds
Ya dig? That is a guarantee
Apparently
And please tell your defense
Don't ever man to man with me
Double team, triple team
Your defenders sick of me
But, I never let 'em get to me
Literally
Step back and give 'em a three
Ain't no defending me

[Reporter talking]
One guy certainly envious of the way Bryant's playing lately
LeBron James

[LeBron James talking]
I've been recorded saying that
He's definitely the best player in our league
Um, to me, in my eyes
The best scorer in our league
And there's not another guy in our league
That can accomplish some of the things
That he's doing

[Lil' Wayne]
Never take a day off
Catch you at the top of the key
And get a J off
Baseline facetime
Tongue out like two-three
Even two-three gotta love how I do me
Practice while you sleep
Practice in my sleep
Straight outta high school
Tha brackets ain't for me
I will be jumping over you
Like I got a mattress at my feet
And all the Phil Jackson teams
Better be passing it to me
I put the master in the beast
Attack you like a beast
I am starving for victory
And that means I'ma eat
And when they ask you who's the best
Then the answer should be me

[Elie Seckbach talking with Mikael Pietrus]
Reporter: Who's the best player in the NBA?
Mikael: Um, I'll say Kobe Bryant.
Reporter: Really? Why?
Mikael: Because you never know what you're gonna get

[Lil' Wayne]
Call me Mr. Clutch or Mr. Automatic
I can post 'em up, or Lamar go get the alley
I'm going for the ring
I'm going for the ring
I went to Beijing
And came back with the bling
Who they want? They want Kobe
And what he want? He want the trophy
The victory
And the glory
No Shaq
No Robert Horry
Now break 'em off, Kobe break 'em off
You better be where that Laker don't
Yea, just give him the ball and he take it off
Or he properly dishing it to Gasol
Or give it to D-Fish on the wing, yeah
Or just let lil' Ariza do his thing, yeah
'Cause I'm great, and so is my team, yeah

[I thought you want to be the greatest]

Do it for Magic
It's your time baby
I see nothing wrong with doing it four times baby
I'm the best yes
And he the best yeah
Don't worry LeBron - get 'em next year
Now what's defense,
To an assassin?
Killer instinct
Murder the basket
Then steal the ball back
Hold it for ransom
It's more than a game
This is a passion
Been a all-star, been a champion
Free throw line, you hear 'em chanting
MVP, MVP
Kobe Bryant aka Envy Me
In knee deep, smash any D
Whoever he is he can't guard me
He can't guard me
 

COMTONDAJATT

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Kush said:
Comton, disagreed. The Cavs were on a decline man. Shaq's contract is up, people have their game figured out. This Heat team, even with Chalmers and fucking Joel Anthony is gonna be in the mid 50's for wins MINIMUM. lets see what ensues, especially with those two big boy centers we picked up second round (pat riley is all seeing all knowing. He knew from the beginning :) ). Regardless, doesn't make sense playign the what if game about the cavs with lebron in 2011... cause that shit is overr.
Even without Shaq they would win the East in the regular season again. They might have had to make a couple of small tweaks but Lebron puts up MVP numbers and the role players he had with him were adequate. I honestly think if Cavs didnt run into a crazy Celtics team that they would have won it it all this year.

Riles is gonna have a tough time filling out this roster though. I know they are adding Miller now but he is not the Miller of old and they are gonna end up overpaying him. And I am hearing that the next CBA is gonna get rid of the MLE and without that it is gonna be hard to bring people in.

I think the next 5 years are gonna go like this.

2010-2011 - Lakers win, Heat get to ECF
2011-2012 - Lockout Season. No finals. If we have a short season then I think anyone can win.
2012-2013 - No basketball because of Apocalypse. Kobe is revealed as Dajjal/Anti-Christ.
End of the world. Bam.
 

sulmoney

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steph curry + monta ellis + david lee > lebron james + dwayne wade + chris bosh

theres only one ball in miami, but in golden state with nellie ball? thats the only system with enough shots for all :)
 

Saab

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Go nets. If they make the playoffs, mikhail prokhorov is going to get everyone in brooklyn shwasted.
 

Davinder Dhaliwal

Tell Em What They Wanna Hear!
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Haha bow down to the king bitches....lakers and the lakers fans are about to go through some tough years. Haha all this lebron hate, how he don't got any rings, he can't finish is about to stop! Y'all better start thinking of some other shit ....an looks like some of you have already done ur hate hw! Keep it up!!!!


.................................


Hey nigga I was in Oakland, Oakland like Brooklyn
Short! Dog! Yay area!!!
They showed me so much love when I was down there I had to get hyphy on this one

[Verse 1]
Uh! Ask my nigga Lebron!
We so big we ain't gotta respond
When you talkin to a don, please have respect like your talkin to your mom
We let the money do the talkin
As you see we be talkin rather often (chatterbox!)
The ROC Boys in the buildin
Another hundred fifty million don't it sound like we yellin?!!!
Who the fuck overrated?! If anything they underpaid him
Hatin that's only 'gon make him spend the night
Out of spite with the chick you've been datin
We the best of the best
We 'gon be here so the rest could take a rest
I gotta get this off my chest
No pause none of that shit, get off my dick!!!!

[Chorus]: (Chorus courtesy originally done by Too $hort "Blow The Whistle)
BLOW THE WHISTLE!!! BLOW THE WHISTLE!!! BLOW THE WHISTLE!!! BLOW THE WHISTLE!!!

[Verse 2]:
Hold up, I gotta keep it real
It's gonna take seven movies by Will
Seven movies by twenty mil'
and you still ten short from what I did with one deal (DAMN!)
Don't compare me to nobody
I'd rather not be mentioned, I'm offended
Unless you talkin some not-your-James-Dean or
John Lennon (or) or Jimi Hendrix
I'm just a rock star, BEEYITCH!!
Keep it real, you know I got y'all BEEYITCH!!
We ain't in the same league
You could lie to yourself, you can't lie to me (uh-uh, uh-uh!)
I don't even know y'all name
I'm too big for ya, the rap Lebron James
Roc Nation, the new movement
And y'all money funny, what the fuck are YOOOU DOING??
I don't know what y'all on
This is chess - know the difference 'tween the king and the pawn
 

COMTONDAJATT

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buzz bissinger who wrote a book with lebron and got to know lebron and his entourage pretty well has been ripping the shit out of him on his twitter feed.

http://twitter.com/buzzbissinger


'LeBron content to play second fiddle to Dwayne Wade--where is the guts? I am serious. He just is not tough. Doesnt want to lead. ' Ouch.
 
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