HarmanSingh said:
ENVY BANG-RUH said:
Navkarn said:
ENVY BANG-RUH said:
bhangrathug said:
Real talk....but when lebron gets his 5-6 rings n break a shit load of recorddsssssssss...he willl take kobes place

...just sayinnnnn
Not happening, are you forgetting that Lebron left all the chances of being considered a great record breaker behind the day he decided he would be Dwayne's robin? If anyone will get any respect of being in the conversation of Mike, then kobe, then...It's dwayne.
Then followed by Kevin Durant.
EDIT: Actually, lets leave kevin out of this conversation, he still has a long way to go, but expectations are still high for the guy.
get real kp. you actually think lebron is robin to wade? its arguable that pippen was the strongest candidate for robin to mj. but seriously, wade and lebron is a marvel/dc comic dream, its more than having a robin, this is batman joining forces with superman. if you think records he breaks wont be considered great, youre delusional. the man is a monster, and puts up monstrous numbers and the heat just so happen to have 2 of them on the court at the same time, definitely no talent loss by his move. haters gonna hate.
steve nash for mvp.
A superstar's demeanor shows you how great a player will be. What is it that lebron has done in his career to prove his greatness as a player. I've said it before, i'll say it again, Lebron is a great ATHLETE (He would make an awesome SS or OLB in football, he's a highly skilled athlete, but thats it), he's only a good ball player, his athleticism has been very beneficial for him in the game thus far but that wont cut it. He doesn't have desire, heart, or will/attitude to be considered "superman". Who does though?
Will/Attitude=Dwayne (kush mentioned the things he's done up to this point, as well as the things he did in the 2006 finals, i got nothin more to add)
Desire=Kobe (even being this old, this rundown, he still has that desire of being a champion, 15 years in the league, bottom of the hill, he still wants to win, "
I don't know, I might be sick in the head or crazy or thrown off or something like that because I still think we're going to win this series"..."
I might be nuts. ... Let's win on Sunday, go back home and see if they can win in L.A."-kobe said it in the post game interview last nite).
Heart=Steve Nash (any dude that can get his face busted open and still play the game deserves to be considered a great BALL PLAYER, even if he doesnt have rings under his belt, he is more of a winner/ball player than lebron bar none. And i dislike the suns, because of the '05-'07 suns, he none the less deserves being considered great)
I've given you two examples with guys with a ring, and one without. So where does Lebron "superman" fall in this category to be considered a great BALL PLAYER?
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6498354
Calling Steve Nash great invalidates a lot of what you have said. The guy can't guard anyone. He is an offensive player...his defense is atrocious and it showed when his pitiful defensive teams were bounced from the playoffs year after year. A great player plays both ways, Nash is a one way player who could never get it done when it mattered.
You think D'Antoni had something to do with that? lol of course Nash didnt play alot of defense in their run n gun offense which, if you havent noticed, has carried on to new york. Calling him atrocious defensively is alot to say when youre entire system is designed to be fast paced and high possession. Steve Nash is a perennial allstar and rightfully so, he's top 3 in guards of all time.
You know for all the people who talk about lebron, and how NOONE can carry a team on his back, noone realizes one thing. Show me a team that has even made it to the finals entirely on the back of ONE player. Oh I have one... the Cleveland Cavs. Quit on his team? He was disgruntled, like an employee at a job where they feel like they are wasting their potential, i'm not surprised he lost his fire. And i know, its sports and everyone loves to point fingers... Be a real winner? lol the games changed. When youre facing tony parker, manu ginobli, and tim duncan BY YOURSELF, and thigns dont work out, i'm sorry but how can you expect to take the same beating over and over? I think his willingness to MOVE AWAY FROM HIS HOME, from a franchise BUILT AROUND HIM, from adoring fans in what essentially was HIS CITY... because you want the ultimate prize... is that in itself not a show of heart? of want? of stopping at nothing and letting no criticism deter you from the best opportunity possible?
Sure as a closer he isnt the strongest, we saw it in cleveland, see it in miami... BUT THATS WHY HE JOINED UP WITH ONE OF THE BEST CLOSERS IN THE GAME, not to mention another perennial allstar, a finals MVP, and hands down the best SG in the east, if not the league. But the man still deserves credit for being THE MOST VERSATILE PLAYER THAT ANYONE HAS SEEN PLAY THE GAME!
Best nonpoint guard passer in the league, hands down. Best power drive of all time. One of the BEST BASKETBALL IQ's the game has ever seen. lol, i definitely think people give him too little credit. But alas he's lebron james.
Sigh... i suppose noone likes the idea of a superpower though. I saw the same hate for boston when Ray Allen Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett crewed up... and now their fans all have something to say about us. lol.