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Rangla Punjab Bhangra Competition Results!

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mrchicity

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This is turning into a witch hunt. The competition and the team in question should be reprimanded, but to ban a team or a few individuals on that team for life goes a little far. Was SGPD banned from competing after their antics at Bhangra in the Burgh 2007? They have since moved on to show that they aren't hell-raisers at competitions, and this team should be afforded the chance to do the same.
 

karanmand

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mrchicity said:
This is turning into a witch hunt. The competition and the team in question should be reprimanded, but to ban a team or a few individuals on that team for life goes a little far. Was SGPD banned from competing after their antics at Bhangra in the Burgh 2007? They have since moved on to show that they aren't hell-raisers at competitions, and this team should be afforded the chance to do the same.
+1 The whole team shouldn't be penalized for the actions of few members. Everyone deserves a second chance.
 

Rimin Sidhu

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mrchicity said:
This is turning into a witch hunt. The competition and the team in question should be reprimanded, but to ban a team or a few individuals on that team for life goes a little far. Was SGPD banned from competing after their antics at Bhangra in the Burgh 2007? They have since moved on to show that they aren't hell-raisers at competitions, and this team should be afforded the chance to do the same.
Totally agree with the whole "witch hunt" thing. I mean come on guys 8 pages of straight hate while the mods just sit around and contribute :eek: . Not to mention majority of you posting weren't even at the competition. All of you are saying that we shouldn't be promoting our culture like this but in reality aren't you the ones getting nasty, not to judges, but to another team... seems like the same thing to me. I'm more apart of the newer generation coming into bhangra and this isn't setting a great tone or example for anyone entering the scene. What's happened has happened, I know there hasn't been much traffic on BTF for awhile but we all just need to relax.
 

siddyp

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Rimin Sidhu said:
Totally agree with the whole "witch hunt" thing. I mean come on guys 8 pages of straight hate while the mods just sit around and contribute :eek: . Not to mention majority of you posting weren't even at the competition. All of you are saying that we shouldn't be promoting our culture like this but in reality aren't you the ones getting nasty, not to judges, but to another team... seems like the same thing to me. I'm more apart of the newer generation coming into bhangra and this isn't setting a great tone or example for anyone entering the scene. What's happened has happened, I know there hasn't been much traffic on BTF for awhile but we all just need to relax.
were you at rangla?

While I can agree to what Mrchicity is saying, we shouldn't say that RPVD isn't doing what they feel is best for their organization. They don't want to take a chance on dealing with a potential problem so they took action. Even if it was 4-5 people that brought the team down, that's all it takes. A lot of the hate is stemming from these few members' childish and classless behavior. (the attacks on the judges and facebook statuses) If anything, as a new member, take this as a very blunt hint NOT to do these things because it is not respected, and it is frowned upon in the bhangra community.

We are here making a big deal out of this because this is the kind of behavior that needs to be removed from our circuit.
 

Saleem

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I agree it shouldn't be a witch hunt but as SiddyP and Basim have said, there should be long-term accountability. A lot of the hate has stemmed from arrogant facebook posts that the teammates themselves made today. What happened at Rangla Punjab is a big deal and how NSM is handling it is a big deal-- both deserve discussion but not a witch hunt.

And I have contributed (rather politely, I think) as a member of the forum. If there are posts on this thread or any other thread that you think go too far, please report it to the mod staff and we will jointly review them.
 

Ashveer

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Rimin Sidhu said:
mrchicity said:
This is turning into a witch hunt. The competition and the team in question should be reprimanded, but to ban a team or a few individuals on that team for life goes a little far. Was SGPD banned from competing after their antics at Bhangra in the Burgh 2007? They have since moved on to show that they aren't hell-raisers at competitions, and this team should be afforded the chance to do the same.
Totally agree with the whole "witch hunt" thing. I mean come on guys 8 pages of straight hate while the mods just sit around and contribute :eek: . Not to mention majority of you posting weren't even at the competition. All of you are saying that we shouldn't be promoting our culture like this but in reality aren't you the ones getting nasty, not to judges, but to another team... seems like the same thing to me. I'm more apart of the newer generation coming into bhangra and this isn't setting a great tone or example for anyone entering the scene. What's happened has happened, I know there hasn't been much traffic on BTF for awhile but we all just need to relax.
A witch hunt occurs when there is no culpability. Here, something so terribly shitty happened on the part of the organizers and NSM^2, that the bhangra community is taking a stand against it. Yes, some of the posts have been over the top in their antagonizing, but you should also consider the posts of those individuals whose character is in question. When one of your team members makes a mistake on stage, doesn't the team rally around them? Being part of a team is predicated on some sort of shared responsibility, and some deference and respect for a leader or captain who should exhibit leadership skills, not the kind of attitude seen on facebook.

Rimin isn't NSM a team that's part of your "newer generation coming into Bhangra"? This is setting a good example for you: don't be a colossal douche at comps, and everyone will treat you favorably. Patrola and Kiran are not very much older than me, but they were working in the scene quite some time before I started dancing, and they lead by example in terms of decorum and conduct as they are now. We should all learn from their and Tony's grace in handling a situation in which I for one probably would have just walked away and told NSM to go cry like their captain is asking MBT and BAR-B to do now.

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WTF with parents being involved too? This is a whole 'nother level that might not be worth discussing but is worth reflecting on. I'd be embarrassed as shit if my parents stormed a judges room demanding why their poor little puth didn't win.
 

Ak_Di_Nishani

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bhangraismylife said:
This is what NSM^2 has to say about this WHOLE situation
LOLLL ahhh shieeet....

After the first 5 pages i just scanned the next 3 looking for a NSM reply, didnt get one. Which leads me to believe they've been ordered not to reply to anything.

In other news check out North American Culture Show, the biggest of its kind in Canada, where NSM^2 will NOT be preforming haha

www.nacultureshow.com
preformances from JK and Saini Surinder :)
 

Lessbihonest

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I attended the event and agree that some dancers, not all, should be reprimanded. I also know Remy to be a very nice individual who didn't engage with his teammates in the debacle with the judges.

BUT, when 3 respected judges, 2 from UBZ Girlz and 1 from United, actually come onto btf and state that they have never been disrespected like this in their entire lives, it makes you think, what the hell is wrong with NSM^2?

Tony, Kiran and Mandeep HARDLY post on here. And to this post, they did. OBVIOUSLY all 3 felt completely disrespected and hurt by the actions of NSM^2 and wanted to tell everyone what they experienced and how horrible they all felt being bombarded like that.

So in the end, ban the specific individuals who screamed profanities at them.

[Moderator's note: removed attacking language]
 

Yankee Saini

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ahem . . . ik janta angreji bahut doongi boldi aa, saali ser deh uppron e langh jaundi aa. Mera vi bahut kuch kehan nu jee kar reha aa, NSM^2 ja RP nu nahi, par kisey hor nu! Main kisey da naam nahi leyna, par mera ishhara e bahut aa unha layi! Gall eh aa bai, aa bas thorri deyr e hoyi aa, main ik out of country deh ik bhangre deh competition teh Gaya si! Pehlan pehlan tan bahut e khushi si ki bahut vadhia competition lagg reha aa par asal di gall tan bahad vich Raaz aayi! Bahut dukh Hoya ki ajj kal bhangre deh competitions da eh haal aa. Sachi keh reha aa ki bahut dukh Hoya!(-_-) Dukh eh sunke Hoya ki jehrre competition teh main Gaya si unha neh placing pehlan e decide keeti hoyi si! Majaak nahi kar reha! Naa e kisey nu badnaam kar reha, bas sach dass reha aa! Jimeh k main keha ki competition waleyan neh pehlan e placing decide keeti hoyi si teh Hun oh e competition wale kisi team nu aggey ton bhaag leyn layi unha teh rok laa rahe aa. (kar layo gall)

Meinu koyi shounk nahi avein bakwaas karn da! Main joh akhon vekheya ohi keh reha aa! Ajj kal lagda koyi vi competition deh organizers judges di kadar e nahi karde. Sahi gall aa! Mere naal bahut hor vi janta sehmat hau gi. Judges deh scores nu ignore karke apniyan manh-pasand teams nu jeetu-karaar deyna tan bahut e kutta kamm aa. Baaki teams apna dhuuha marvaundiyan rehndiyan aa teh nazaare koyi hor lai jaunda aa teh eh saari galti competition deh organizers di e hundi aa. Eh nahi keh reha ki saare bhangre deh competition iddan deh aa, nahi! Par hai kayi iddan deh jithey judges deh scores nu ignore karke hor kisey nu jitaya jaunda aa.

Kayi jauneyan deh tan meri gall palley nahi peyni, chalo koyi na! Main tan apne dil di kahi, akhon vekhi gall thuade aggey pesh keeti aa. Jehrre competition di main gall kar reha aa, inha ne placings pehlan e decide karke rakhi hoyi si. Teh bahad vich jehrre vi chote-mote individuals inaam dittey, ohvi organizers neh e decide karke dittey.

Tusi soch rahe hovo geh ki ehnu kiddan pata? Tusi believe nahi karu geh par jiddan sanu competition wale airport teh vapas shaddan jaa rahe si, uddan meinu ous gaddi ch bithaa ditta jehrri gaddi vich judges deh scoresheets payian si! Gall iddan hoyi ki, gaddi shoti si, kehan da matlab Doh taakiyan wali si, teh gaddi di diggi vich oh saara competition da smaan si paya ik bakse vich. Asi apne bag rakhne si pichhe diggi vich teh jehrra driver si ohne gaddi di diggi vichon oh scoresheets wala box mere hathan ch rakh ditta teh kehnda bai ehnu tu apne kol rakh ke andhar gaddi ch beth jaavi! Hun meinu ki pata si ki eh box ch ki aa. Meinu lagda oh driver nu vi nahi pata si ki oh mere hath kehrra box frrah reha aa. (lol) chalo koyi na, galti ho jaundi aa insaan ton. Oh box deh uppar koyi vi cover nahi si, khulla siga uppron, teh pehla paper uppar kisey judge da e si paya (rofl) . . . Main vi sochan eh saala ki mere hathan ch frrah ditta! (hun jeh aggey sohni kurri kharri hovey teh Munda single hovey, agle da hello hi kehan da tan haq ban da e aa) tan pher eho e gall hoyi. Main tan tuttke pai Gaya oh judges di scoresheets nu teh bahut heraan Hoya jadon pata lagga ki judges deh scoresheets deh hisaab naal placing bahut e galat aa. Individual placings vi change keetiyan hoyian si. (lol) . . Mere naal deh saathi kehnde ki iPhone ton photoyan khich lai inha papers diyan teh aapan btf teh paava geh inha diyan kartootan teh dassan geh inha deh kaarnaame! Par pher socheya ki asi aene vi nahi girey hoye insaan tan pher rehan e ditta. Par oh scoring sheets vekh ke eh lagg Gaya si pata placing judges nu ignore karke e bahad ch decide hoyian aa, teh jehrri team pehla sthaan jitti, unha nu tan score e bahut ghatt dittey judges neh. Teh jehrri team teeja sthaan jitti, ohnu pehla sthaan jitna chahi da si. (aoukha aa janta da!)

Jimeh ke main pehlan keha, main kisey da naam nahi leyna ki oh kaun aa. Naale main kisey teh hate nahi karda, jinha naal main Gaya si, ohvi dooji place jittke aaye aa! Main gall insaaf di kar reha aa. Kehan da matlab eh aa ki koyi kisey nu kimeh galat keh sakda aa jadon ki oh aap e galat aa! Saaliyan apniyan galtiyan ignore karke doojhe nu khaun nu peynde aa! Chalo bahut ho Gaya! Murrke naa kadey aeho jahe competition teh kadey Gaye asi, especially eh vaale, jehdi main gall kar reha si! Meri story da ehi moral aa ki dooji team nu Bhangra paun ton rokan layi pehlan tusi apne competition nu e band karayo, jithey teams naal naa-insaafi hoyi aa teh jehde picche organizers da bahut vadda hath si! Thank ju & Rabb Rakha!!! :)
 

bhangraismylife

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Yankee Saini said:
ahem . . . ik janta angreji bahut doongi boldi aa, saali ser deh uppron e langh jaundi aa. Mera vi bahut kuch kehan nu jee kar reha aa, NSM^2 ja RP nu nahi, par kisey hor nu! Main kisey da naam nahi leyna, par mera ishhara e bahut aa unha layi! Gall eh aa bai, aa bas thorri deyr e hoyi aa, main ik out of country deh ik bhangre deh competition teh Gaya si! Pehlan pehlan tan bahut e khushi si ki bahut vadhia competition lagg reha aa par asal di gall tan bahad vich Raaz aayi! Bahut dukh Hoya ki ajj kal bhangre deh competitions da eh haal aa. Sachi keh reha aa ki bahut dukh Hoya!(-_-) Dukh eh sunke Hoya ki jehrre competition teh main Gaya si unha neh placing pehlan e decide keeti hoyi si! Majaak nahi kar reha! Naa e kisey nu badnaam kar reha, bas sach dass reha aa! Jimeh k main keha ki competition waleyan neh pehlan e placing decide keeti hoyi si teh Hun oh e competition wale kisi team nu aggey ton bhaag leyn layi unha teh rok laa rahe aa. (kar layo gall)

Meinu koyi shounk nahi avein bakwaas karn da! Main joh akhon vekheya ohi keh reha aa! Ajj kal lagda koyi vi competition deh organizers judges di kadar e nahi karde. Sahi gall aa! Mere naal bahut hor vi janta sehmat hau gi. Judges deh scores nu ignore karke apniyan manh-pasand teams nu jeetu-karaar deyna tan bahut e kutta kamm aa. Baaki teams apna dhuuha marvaundiyan rehndiyan aa teh nazaare koyi hor lai jaunda aa teh eh saari galti competition deh organizers di e hundi aa. Eh nahi keh reha ki saare bhangre deh competition iddan deh aa, nahi! Par hai kayi iddan deh jithey judges deh scores nu ignore karke hor kisey nu jitaya jaunda aa.

Kayi jauneyan deh tan meri gall palley nahi peyni, chalo koyi na! Main tan apne dil di kahi, akhon vekhi gall thuade aggey pesh keeti aa. Jehrre competition di main gall kar reha aa, inha ne placings pehlan e decide karke rakhi hoyi si. Teh bahad vich jehrre vi chote-mote individuals inaam dittey, ohvi organizers neh e decide karke dittey.

Tusi soch rahe hovo geh ki ehnu kiddan pata? Tusi believe nahi karu geh par jiddan sanu competition wale airport teh vapas shaddan jaa rahe si, uddan meinu ous gaddi ch bithaa ditta jehrri gaddi vich judges deh scoresheets payian si! Gall iddan hoyi ki, gaddi shoti si, kehan da matlab Doh taakiyan wali si, teh gaddi di diggi vich oh saara competition da smaan si paya ik bakse vich. Asi apne bag rakhne si pichhe diggi vich teh jehrra driver si ohne gaddi di diggi vichon oh scoresheets wala box mere hathan ch rakh ditta teh kehnda bai ehnu tu apne kol rakh ke andhar gaddi ch beth jaavi! Hun meinu ki pata si ki eh box ch ki aa. Meinu lagda oh driver nu vi nahi pata si ki oh mere hath kehrra box frrah reha aa. (lol) chalo koyi na, galti ho jaundi aa insaan ton. Oh box deh uppar koyi vi cover nahi si, khulla siga uppron, teh pehla paper uppar kisey judge da e si paya (rofl) . . . Main vi sochan eh saala ki mere hathan ch frrah ditta! (hun jeh aggey sohni kurri kharri hovey teh Munda single hovey, agle da hello hi kehan da tan haq ban da e aa) tan pher eho e gall hoyi. Main tan tuttke pai Gaya oh judges di scoresheets nu teh bahut heraan Hoya jadon pata lagga ki judges deh scoresheets deh hisaab naal placing bahut e galat aa. Individual placings vi change keetiyan hoyian si. (lol) . . Mere naal deh saathi kehnde ki iPhone ton photoyan khich lai inha papers diyan teh aapan btf teh paava geh inha diyan kartootan teh dassan geh inha deh kaarnaame! Par pher socheya ki asi aene vi nahi girey hoye insaan tan pher rehan e ditta. Par oh scoring sheets vekh ke eh lagg Gaya si pata placing judges nu ignore karke e bahad ch decide hoyian aa, teh jehrri team pehla sthaan jitti, unha nu tan score e bahut ghatt dittey judges neh. Teh jehrri team teeja sthaan jitti, ohnu pehla sthaan jitna chahi da si. (aoukha aa janta da!)

Jimeh ke main pehlan keha, main kisey da naam nahi leyna ki oh kaun aa. Naale main kisey teh hate nahi karda, jinha naal main Gaya si, ohvi dooji place jittke aaye aa! Main gall insaaf di kar reha aa. Kehan da matlab eh aa ki koyi kisey nu kimeh galat keh sakda aa jadon ki oh aap e galat aa! Saaliyan apniyan galtiyan ignore karke doojhe nu khaun nu peynde aa! Chalo bahut ho Gaya! Murrke naa kadey aeho jahe competition teh kadey Gaye asi, especially eh vaale, jehdi main gall kar reha si! Meri story da ehi moral aa ki dooji team nu Bhangra paun ton rokan layi pehlan tusi apne competition nu e band karayo, jithey teams naal naa-insaafi hoyi aa teh jehde picche organizers da bahut vadda hath si! Thank ju & Rabb Rakha!!! :)

Post the Pictures you took from your iphone then Paji .. and I think your trying to say RPVD's bhangra compeition was rigged because you came with cal Bhangra and they came second there... and BCC came first :/ and honestly i highly doubt they would rig a competition .. if thats what your trying to apply here ..
 

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I wonder how many people made fake accounts and kept posting in this thread. It would be interesting to see the results.
 

Yankee Saini

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Veere, tu tan kuch jayda e seriously lai gaya! Naale bcc teh cal wali placing bilkul sahi si! In fact, Bcc wale mundeyan neh tan bahut sohna Bhangra paya si! Unha di pehli place ban di si! N veere main sirf ik competition layi nahi Canada Gaya! ;)

Ps. fotoyan khichiyan e nahi bai! asi keha ki faida rouli paun da! joh hun ho reha uddon vi ehi si unha jeh kuch karde! Naale bai, tu aap e soch yaar, ik nahi saariyan teams aeniyan mehnat karke teh paisey laa ke kitey door Bhangra paun jaundiyan aa teh unha di koyi vi nahi kadar? Bas har koyi apna yaar-velly vekhda aa, ki kitey oh na naraaz ho jaun! Jeh ehi gall aa tan hor koyi team nu bulaavo e naa! Apne yaar velliyan naal e Bhangra paa layo! Eh bilkul galat gall aa bai! Ajj kal tan har ik competition jaun teh dar lagda, iddan lagda kitey dhokha e naa ho jaave! Naale main apni kisi team layi nahi Bol reha! Meri saari kahaani doojiyan teams naal jo hoyi, oh beyaan kar rahi aa! Rigged? Ehvi koyi word aa? Hun koyi hor Nama word labbo, eh tan mamulli jehi gall aa ajj kal! 8)
 

NSM2

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Hello BTF Community,
This is an official reply from NSM2 Bhangra that all of us have written sitting together right now. We would first like to state that we are sorry for the manner in which recent events have occurred. We had no intentions of hurting anyone. We hope that people will consider our response to be of the utmost sincerity.
First, we really can’t believe that there are 8 pages of posts attacking us without us having made any response and saying anything at all. Moreover, it hurts to see people accuse us who didn’t witness any of this firsthand and have no legitimate recollection of any of the events that transpired. We find this extremely hostile towards ourselves. We decided not to originally respond because we felt like we had already been villainized past the extent of giving an explanation. However, we feel that we should at least give our side of the story whether or not it will make a difference. Second, we are not the ones that changed the placings, so we don’t understand why it is being tossed on us. Furthermore, none of our members or our parents threatened anyone. If anything was said, it was God’s watching and more God oriented comments, if those are considered threats then sure, we are guilty of that. Honestly, our team has not reflected this conduct before and have a good standing with most judges and organizations, so I think it is a bit unfair to take one incident and blow it out of proportion.

In a so-called attempt to make us more respectful this forum has become a place for extreme disrespect and a number of false rumors as well as false claims…
Ankurk-Ooh lalala-This is totally uncalled for and extremely disrespectful to people you do not even know. You have no idea what the truth is and you are making remarks about another person’s personal relationship, which is quite disgusting on behalf of the btf community who is trying to teach us respect right now. BTF where’s the justice?
Johnny Hundal- “Farlo Phoond de tuttey :O sooooo smart.... Love how Rishma Johal ( Coach/CAPTAIN) with the sweet like.
Akaal Da Khaata”
First, we would never apply to RPVD. Second, your own actions that night and in the past don’t reflect any type of professionalism. Fingering us at the competition during our performance, swearing at my team members, and showing extreme amounts of disrespect throughout the whole competition towards a number of people besides us, doesn’t reflect any type of ethical conduct either-not so mature.
This comment just shows your true personality. BTF where’s the justice?
Additionally, why are you getting involved in this anyway when you have nothing to do with the competition and have no idea what happened backstage?
Saleem- “Wow Sonali Johal: This is the least classy thing I could expect from NSM^2 in this situation. Teams talk so much of "respect for the culture" and this shows that some people just don't give a shit.

What a tactless, disrespectful thing to do. This is why I'm happy BTF comes up on google search results for Asian Connections or whatever else people will search” Teams and respect for culture? If you would like to discuss this contact Rishma, she will write a 10 page paper for you on the bhangra community and “culture”. Trust me our actions will be heavily outweighed.
HattPichay- “Quote from: Fookera on Yesterday at 05:35:55 PM
The boyfriend ::)
Farlo Bhain Bhraa.....Johal dating a Johal?”
If you don’t know what’s going on, why are you being disrespectful? That is embarrassing to yourself. Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about, so why try to add to the fire? Nobody on our team ever came close to saying something like this no matter how angry they were to anyone that day. BTF where’s the justice?
Bhangraismylife- “This is what NSM^2 has to say about this WHOLE situation” If any of NSM^2 team members are wanting to join a new team .. Please Join Smiley Face Bhangra Academy .. because we know how to change HATE into Smiley Face :) oh and Sonali if you wanna join youll have to change your name .. to much basti for us having you on our team :$” Randomly calling people besti once again without having full knowledge about anything and off of a fake account holds no significance…and stalking people? That is really weird and slightly psychotic…do you even know Sonali?
Aneeta- “While I was involved with Bruin as a committee member and not alum, we had "troublemaker" teams apply and accepted them. However, we did not confirm them until our expectations were understood. Fortunately, our version of "troublemaker teams" were teams known to start fights...what NSM did by far exceeds anything I could have ever imagined. If I had the misfortune to have them in my line-up, I would not hesitate to call and say, "Sorry there is no longer a spot available for your team. You are not welcome at X competition. Here is your reg money. Good luck." Every committee has their own way of dealing with situations like this though, so I'm sure whatever Jashan decides to do or not do will work best for them.
Having quality teams apply to your competition and attend the event is a pure joy and makes all of the work worth the effort. There'd be absolutely no joy in hosting a team like this. “
Do you know us? Were you there? We don’t say our actions were good but they didn’t even come close to what we have seen at other competitions. We have seen reputable teams push people, threaten people, break anything and everything, throw people’s paggs off, do everything from drink and smoke at venues to steal and we can’t believe you guys overlook that but NSM demanding answers that were never answered, let’s call a world war on them.
Over 140 posts, the majority not knowing what’s going on have made us sound like monsters.
Siddyp- “While I can agree to what Mrchicity is saying, we shouldn't say that RPVD isn't doing what they feel is best for their organization. They don't want to take a chance on dealing with a potential problem so they took action. Even if it was 4-5 people that brought the team down, that's all it takes. A lot of the hate is stemming from these few members' childish and classless behavior. (the attacks on the judges and facebook statuses) If anything, as a new member, take this as a very blunt hint NOT to do these things because it is not respected, and it is frowned upon in the bhangra community.”
RPVD isn’t calling us out on their actions, they themselves don’t have a clean record…AVA and RPD the 2 teams holding this competition have beef with us, so that is the only reason Johnny is adding to the hate. Nobody said anything when Johnny announced his competition a day before ours after we had already announced it 2 weeks before, in order to take us down… that was so ethical right. Once again, Johnny’s own conduct doesn’t reflect any type of greatness, so let’s not go to accountability there. BTF where’s the justice?
Kiren Jhutty- “NSM...I didnt want to say anything directly to you guys bc I dont know you. All i know is what I personally witnessed that night while waiting to speak to the judges. To the rest of us, it looked like your ENTIRE team was taking part of the "riot", along with your parents and groupies. I'm TRULY SORRY that those of you who weren't a part of it must be clumped in with THAT same group of people bc you are on the same team. The way those individuals acted towards the judges and the rest of the teams is unforgivable and props to RPVD for taking a stand. I hope Jashan follows in your footsteps. No, its not fair to punish the whole team, but if I was in your shoes NSM, I'd consider dropping thsoe that have brough this upon you....real quick. I know the actual placings were changed by Antar but if you wanted to fix this whole mess you guys could've told her you wouldn't take the placing change THIS way...that would have been the RIGHT thing to do, not flaunting on FB that you were given first place bc you rightfully earned it. I don't regularly posts on BTF, nor do I try to be a part of the controversies that are addressed here but after seeing the iphone pic of the status update (directed towards MY team) from your "captain" I just wanted to point out how completely immature you sound and it just confirms to EVERYONE that you show no sense of team respect, sportsmanship or remorse for what you did that night.”
That same girl sent the nicest reply to some member of your team this morning confirming that that post was in no-way intended towards your team. She even said that we have no problems with you or any of the teams no matter what they have stated on this forum. This is again a completely baseless post that you just seem to be venting out anger in without speaking to other members of your team who we have been extremely courteous too.
Lessbihonest- “So in the end, ban the specific individuals who screamed profanities at them and slap the unpard parents who threatened the judges and teaching their illiterate kids that it's okay to act like a bandar” is INCREDIBLY DISRESPECTFUL. To parents who you don’t know and only referred to God over and over again, you should think ten times before saying anything. You don’t know whether the accusations are true or false, so once again fear god about what you were saying to our god-like parents. Everybody’s parents work very hard to raise their children and they do way more than enough to bring them up as educated individuals. Every single person on our team is a university student and many of them are going on to graduate school. All of our parents being originally from India have come to Canada and worked hard, too hard in some instances to give us a good life. If we start speaking in the context of our parents, all of us are spoiled little brats because we have time to waste on pointless online forums. We can listen to any type of bashing on us but going to our parents is completely rude, unnecessary, and THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL COMMENT EVER!!!! BTF where’s the justice?
We also want to give a shoutout to the mods for taking off some of the disrespectful comments that are completely unnecessary and don’t belong but I don’t understand why others have been allowed to remain there.
We did demand answers about results but many of you on btf have gone well beyond any type of ethical concern, conduct, or respect. Moreover, you have bashed us for more than 24 hours. We were in a situation where we didn’t have time to rethink our actions and were very angry but many of you are sitting in front of a computer screen and very aware of your actions. If you say these types of things in full awareness, I don’t want to know what you would sound like in our situation? Why not issue a btf ban on you?
To all of the fake accounts that have emerged, if you think hiding behind a computer screen and making random accusations and just simply hating makes you credible?
We think we have said enough although we could quote every single person and keep going on about this but we think that is unnecessary. This placing was awarded to us by the organization and we thank them for giving us first place. Obviously, we thought we deserved it and our performance speaks for itself. We would like to thank the organizer for overlooking our actions and taking a second look at what happened with judging. But that being said, it has nothing to do with what happened with other teams even though many people for some strange reason want to throw us in that loop. To summarize, the past few days haven’t exactly been a joyride for us nor was the weekend. Our team feels targeted and honestly this forum has blown basically everything out of proportion and again going to our parents is completely out of line. On the other hand, we hope that everyone understands where we are coming from and this bashing NSM can end. This post is being made once again from the 15 members that make up this team and are the feelings of this team in its entirety.

Sincerely,
Rishma Johal, Ramnit Basi, Taran Shergill, Mark Cheema, Amit Johal, Satvir Hundal, Simran Sidhu, Manvir Hundal, Sonali Johal, Dhanvir Hundal, Sahil Chawla, Gurvinder Sandhar, Ajay Hundal, Simmy Sidhu, Ashley Rai, and Prince Agnihotri.
 

Harman

Member
Messages
189
NSM2 said:
Hello BTF Community,
This is an official reply from NSM2 Bhangra that all of us have written sitting together right now. We would first like to state that we are sorry for the manner in which recent events have occurred. We had no intentions of hurting anyone. We hope that people will consider our response to be of the utmost sincerity.
First, we really can’t believe that there are 8 pages of posts attacking us without us having made any response and saying anything at all. Moreover, it hurts to see people accuse us who didn’t witness any of this firsthand and have no legitimate recollection of any of the events that transpired. We find this extremely hostile towards ourselves. We decided not to originally respond because we felt like we had already been villainized past the extent of giving an explanation. However, we feel that we should at least give our side of the story whether or not it will make a difference. Second, we are not the ones that changed the placings, so we don’t understand why it is being tossed on us. Furthermore, none of our members or our parents threatened anyone. If anything was said, it was God’s watching and more God oriented comments, if those are considered threats then sure, we are guilty of that. Honestly, our team has not reflected this conduct before and have a good standing with most judges and organizations, so I think it is a bit unfair to take one incident and blow it out of proportion.

In a so-called attempt to make us more respectful this forum has become a place for extreme disrespect and a number of false rumors as well as false claims…
Ankurk-Ooh lalala-This is totally uncalled for and extremely disrespectful to people you do not even know. You have no idea what the truth is and you are making remarks about another person’s personal relationship, which is quite disgusting on behalf of the btf community who is trying to teach us respect right now. BTF where’s the justice?
Johnny Hundal- “Farlo Phoond de tuttey :O sooooo smart.... Love how Rishma Johal ( Coach/CAPTAIN) with the sweet like.
Akaal Da Khaata”
First, we would never apply to RPVD. Second, your own actions that night and in the past don’t reflect any type of professionalism. Fingering us at the competition during our performance, swearing at my team members, and showing extreme amounts of disrespect throughout the whole competition towards a number of people besides us, doesn’t reflect any type of ethical conduct either-not so mature.
This comment just shows your true personality. BTF where’s the justice?
Additionally, why are you getting involved in this anyway when you have nothing to do with the competition and have no idea what happened backstage?
Saleem- “Wow Sonali Johal: This is the least classy thing I could expect from NSM^2 in this situation. Teams talk so much of "respect for the culture" and this shows that some people just don't give a shit.

What a tactless, disrespectful thing to do. This is why I'm happy BTF comes up on google search results for Asian Connections or whatever else people will search” Teams and respect for culture? If you would like to discuss this contact Rishma, she will write a 10 page paper for you on the bhangra community and “culture”. Trust me our actions will be heavily outweighed.
HattPichay- “Quote from: Fookera on Yesterday at 05:35:55 PM
The boyfriend ::)
Farlo Bhain Bhraa.....Johal dating a Johal?”
If you don’t know what’s going on, why are you being disrespectful? That is embarrassing to yourself. Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about, so why try to add to the fire? Nobody on our team ever came close to saying something like this no matter how angry they were to anyone that day. BTF where’s the justice?
Bhangraismylife- “This is what NSM^2 has to say about this WHOLE situation” If any of NSM^2 team members are wanting to join a new team .. Please Join Smiley Face Bhangra Academy .. because we know how to change HATE into Smiley Face :) oh and Sonali if you wanna join youll have to change your name .. to much basti for us having you on our team :$” Randomly calling people besti once again without having full knowledge about anything and off of a fake account holds no significance…and stalking people? That is really weird and slightly psychotic…do you even know Sonali?
Aneeta- “While I was involved with Bruin as a committee member and not alum, we had "troublemaker" teams apply and accepted them. However, we did not confirm them until our expectations were understood. Fortunately, our version of "troublemaker teams" were teams known to start fights...what NSM did by far exceeds anything I could have ever imagined. If I had the misfortune to have them in my line-up, I would not hesitate to call and say, "Sorry there is no longer a spot available for your team. You are not welcome at X competition. Here is your reg money. Good luck." Every committee has their own way of dealing with situations like this though, so I'm sure whatever Jashan decides to do or not do will work best for them.
Having quality teams apply to your competition and attend the event is a pure joy and makes all of the work worth the effort. There'd be absolutely no joy in hosting a team like this. “
Do you know us? Were you there? We don’t say our actions were good but they didn’t even come close to what we have seen at other competitions. We have seen reputable teams push people, threaten people, break anything and everything, throw people’s paggs off, do everything from drink and smoke at venues to steal and we can’t believe you guys overlook that but NSM demanding answers that were never answered, let’s call a world war on them.
Over 140 posts, the majority not knowing what’s going on have made us sound like monsters.
Siddyp- “While I can agree to what Mrchicity is saying, we shouldn't say that RPVD isn't doing what they feel is best for their organization. They don't want to take a chance on dealing with a potential problem so they took action. Even if it was 4-5 people that brought the team down, that's all it takes. A lot of the hate is stemming from these few members' childish and classless behavior. (the attacks on the judges and facebook statuses) If anything, as a new member, take this as a very blunt hint NOT to do these things because it is not respected, and it is frowned upon in the bhangra community.”
RPVD isn’t calling us out on their actions, they themselves don’t have a clean record…AVA and RPD the 2 teams holding this competition have beef with us, so that is the only reason Johnny is adding to the hate. Nobody said anything when Johnny announced his competition a day before ours after we had already announced it 2 weeks before, in order to take us down… that was so ethical right. Once again, Johnny’s own conduct doesn’t reflect any type of greatness, so let’s not go to accountability there. BTF where’s the justice?
Kiren Jhutty- “NSM...I didnt want to say anything directly to you guys bc I dont know you. All i know is what I personally witnessed that night while waiting to speak to the judges. To the rest of us, it looked like your ENTIRE team was taking part of the "riot", along with your parents and groupies. I'm TRULY SORRY that those of you who weren't a part of it must be clumped in with THAT same group of people bc you are on the same team. The way those individuals acted towards the judges and the rest of the teams is unforgivable and props to RPVD for taking a stand. I hope Jashan follows in your footsteps. No, its not fair to punish the whole team, but if I was in your shoes NSM, I'd consider dropping thsoe that have brough this upon you....real quick. I know the actual placings were changed by Antar but if you wanted to fix this whole mess you guys could've told her you wouldn't take the placing change THIS way...that would have been the RIGHT thing to do, not flaunting on FB that you were given first place bc you rightfully earned it. I don't regularly posts on BTF, nor do I try to be a part of the controversies that are addressed here but after seeing the iphone pic of the status update (directed towards MY team) from your "captain" I just wanted to point out how completely immature you sound and it just confirms to EVERYONE that you show no sense of team respect, sportsmanship or remorse for what you did that night.”
That same girl sent the nicest reply to some member of your team this morning confirming that that post was in no-way intended towards your team. She even said that we have no problems with you or any of the teams no matter what they have stated on this forum. This is again a completely baseless post that you just seem to be venting out anger in without speaking to other members of your team who we have been extremely courteous too.
Lessbihonest- “So in the end, ban the specific individuals who screamed profanities at them and slap the unpard parents who threatened the judges and teaching their illiterate kids that it's okay to act like a bandar” is INCREDIBLY DISRESPECTFUL. To parents who you don’t know and only referred to God over and over again, you should think ten times before saying anything. You don’t know whether the accusations are true or false, so once again fear god about what you were saying to our god-like parents. Everybody’s parents work very hard to raise their children and they do way more than enough to bring them up as educated individuals. Every single person on our team is a university student and many of them are going on to graduate school. All of our parents being originally from India have come to Canada and worked hard, too hard in some instances to give us a good life. If we start speaking in the context of our parents, all of us are spoiled little brats because we have time to waste on pointless online forums. We can listen to any type of bashing on us but going to our parents is completely rude, unnecessary, and THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL COMMENT EVER!!!! BTF where’s the justice?
We also want to give a shoutout to the mods for taking off some of the disrespectful comments that are completely unnecessary and don’t belong but I don’t understand why others have been allowed to remain there.
We did demand answers about results but many of you on btf have gone well beyond any type of ethical concern, conduct, or respect. Moreover, you have bashed us for more than 24 hours. We were in a situation where we didn’t have time to rethink our actions and were very angry but many of you are sitting in front of a computer screen and very aware of your actions. If you say these types of things in full awareness, I don’t want to know what you would sound like in our situation? Why not issue a btf ban on you?
To all of the fake accounts that have emerged, if you think hiding behind a computer screen and making random accusations and just simply hating makes you credible?
We think we have said enough although we could quote every single person and keep going on about this but we think that is unnecessary. This placing was awarded to us by the organization and we thank them for giving us first place. Obviously, we thought we deserved it and our performance speaks for itself. We would like to thank the organizer for overlooking our actions and taking a second look at what happened with judging. But that being said, it has nothing to do with what happened with other teams even though many people for some strange reason want to throw us in that loop. To summarize, the past few days haven’t exactly been a joyride for us nor was the weekend. Our team feels targeted and honestly this forum has blown basically everything out of proportion and again going to our parents is completely out of line. On the other hand, we hope that everyone understands where we are coming from and this bashing NSM can end. This post is being made once again from the 15 members that make up this team and are the feelings of this team in its entirety.

Sincerely,
Rishma Johal, Ramnit Basi, Taran Shergill, Mark Cheema, Amit Johal, Satvir Hundal, Simran Sidhu, Manvir Hundal, Sonali Johal, Dhanvir Hundal, Sahil Chawla, Gurvinder Sandhar, Ajay Hundal, Simmy Sidhu, Ashley Rai, and Prince Agnihotri.
cmon now, lets try and not be afraid of using the space bar or even the tab button lol
 

yraparla

SwizzeeMusic.com
Messages
2,072
NSM2 said:
We think we have said enough although we could quote every single person and keep going on about this but we think that is unnecessary. This placing was awarded to us by the organization and we thank them for giving us first place. Obviously, we thought we deserved it and our performance speaks for itself. We would like to thank the organizer for overlooking our actions and taking a second look at what happened with judging. But that being said, it has nothing to do with what happened with other teams even though many people for some strange reason want to throw us in that loop. To summarize, the past few days haven’t exactly been a joyride for us nor was the weekend. Our team feels targeted and honestly this forum has blown basically everything out of proportion and again going to our parents is completely out of line. On the other hand, we hope that everyone understands where we are coming from and this bashing NSM can end. This post is being made once again from the 15 members that make up this team and are the feelings of this team in its entirety.

Sincerely,
Rishma Johal, Ramnit Basi, Taran Shergill, Mark Cheema, Amit Johal, Satvir Hundal, Simran Sidhu, Manvir Hundal, Sonali Johal, Dhanvir Hundal, Sahil Chawla, Gurvinder Sandhar, Ajay Hundal, Simmy Sidhu, Ashley Rai, and Prince Agnihotri.
Just a few quick comments. This thread is getting out of hand (as they all do, we beat our horses to a pulp on BTF)-

1) If you have an issue with posts (I'm talking direct attacks) then please report them. All the mods work fulltime jobs basically now. We do our best to keep up but 6 pages in 24 hours is a lot. We do our best to be impartial and certainly if someone reports a post we have dialogue with that person even if we feel no action is necessary. Nothing is hidden, we try to be transparent and open.

2) You haven't addressed the real issues people were discussing at all. You also did not seem to care that many people were warning against a witch-hunt of NSM and defending you? The ire for the placings is directed at the organizer, the ire directed against NSM is because of your actions, plain and simple.

3) I was there, I saw what happened, I reported what happened (and I made sure to include that my disgust had nothing to do with whether or not you deserved first). The captains for 5 other teams were also there and all had the same feeling. Personal disrespect.

4) The comment on parents was tactless, agreed. But asking for 'justice' about the comments is confusing. There were clearly parents berating judges. I'm not drawing judgment on whether they are good parents, who am I to say? I simply pointed out that they were there, and they were saying very rude things. If you're 'university students' and 'graduate students' as you take pride in, then you should've asked your parents to allow you to handle the situation and asked them to leave. The moment that didn't happen your parents represented your team as well and they involved themselves. Doesn't make the comment right, but the indignation is just as silly. This is not a situation in which anyone looks good, getting self-righteous doesn't help.



NSM, the correct thing to do in this situation is to truly accept responsibility for your actions. That means a real apology (off the forum, directly to parties involved), and one that is not immediately followed by petty quoting and rebutting every comment without addressing the issue. Your points fall on deaf ears otherwise.


Share the prize money out of respect to the other teams that placed by the judges. Apologize to the judges, not to us. DEMAND Antar release scoresheets. If you want to protect your name and reputation, then get her to release the proof that immediately legitimizes your argument that you placed on points. She must have them, she recalculated scores 2 days later right? So they MUST exist, just post the scoresheets or send them to teams and this whole problem becomes a series of misunderstandings. Without that it's just a rigging, plain and simple.
 

Ak_Di_Nishani

New Member
Messages
313
NSM2 said:
Hello BTF Community,
This is an official reply from NSM2 Bhangra that all of us have written sitting together right now. We would first like to state that we are sorry for the manner in which recent events have occurred. We had no intentions of hurting anyone. We hope that people will consider our response to be of the utmost sincerity.
First, we really can’t believe that there are 8 pages of posts attacking us without us having made any response and saying anything at all. Moreover, it hurts to see people accuse us who didn’t witness any of this firsthand and have no legitimate recollection of any of the events that transpired. We find this extremely hostile towards ourselves. We decided not to originally respond because we felt like we had already been villainized past the extent of giving an explanation. However, we feel that we should at least give our side of the story whether or not it will make a difference. Second, we are not the ones that changed the placings, so we don’t understand why it is being tossed on us. Furthermore, none of our members or our parents threatened anyone. If anything was said, it was God’s watching and more God oriented comments, if those are considered threats then sure, we are guilty of that. Honestly, our team has not reflected this conduct before and have a good standing with most judges and organizations, so I think it is a bit unfair to take one incident and blow it out of proportion.

In a so-called attempt to make us more respectful this forum has become a place for extreme disrespect and a number of false rumors as well as false claims…
Ankurk-Ooh lalala-This is totally uncalled for and extremely disrespectful to people you do not even know. You have no idea what the truth is and you are making remarks about another person’s personal relationship, which is quite disgusting on behalf of the btf community who is trying to teach us respect right now. BTF where’s the justice?
Johnny Hundal- “Farlo Phoond de tuttey :O sooooo smart.... Love how Rishma Johal ( Coach/CAPTAIN) with the sweet like.
Akaal Da Khaata”
First, we would never apply to RPVD. Second, your own actions that night and in the past don’t reflect any type of professionalism. Fingering us at the competition during our performance, swearing at my team members, and showing extreme amounts of disrespect throughout the whole competition towards a number of people besides us, doesn’t reflect any type of ethical conduct either-not so mature.
This comment just shows your true personality. BTF where’s the justice?
Additionally, why are you getting involved in this anyway when you have nothing to do with the competition and have no idea what happened backstage?
Saleem- “Wow Sonali Johal: This is the least classy thing I could expect from NSM^2 in this situation. Teams talk so much of "respect for the culture" and this shows that some people just don't give a shit.

What a tactless, disrespectful thing to do. This is why I'm happy BTF comes up on google search results for Asian Connections or whatever else people will search” Teams and respect for culture? If you would like to discuss this contact Rishma, she will write a 10 page paper for you on the bhangra community and “culture”. Trust me our actions will be heavily outweighed.
HattPichay- “Quote from: Fookera on Yesterday at 05:35:55 PM
The boyfriend ::)
Farlo Bhain Bhraa.....Johal dating a Johal?”
If you don’t know what’s going on, why are you being disrespectful? That is embarrassing to yourself. Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about, so why try to add to the fire? Nobody on our team ever came close to saying something like this no matter how angry they were to anyone that day. BTF where’s the justice?
Bhangraismylife- “This is what NSM^2 has to say about this WHOLE situation” If any of NSM^2 team members are wanting to join a new team .. Please Join Smiley Face Bhangra Academy .. because we know how to change HATE into Smiley Face :) oh and Sonali if you wanna join youll have to change your name .. to much basti for us having you on our team :$” Randomly calling people besti once again without having full knowledge about anything and off of a fake account holds no significance…and stalking people? That is really weird and slightly psychotic…do you even know Sonali?
Aneeta- “While I was involved with Bruin as a committee member and not alum, we had "troublemaker" teams apply and accepted them. However, we did not confirm them until our expectations were understood. Fortunately, our version of "troublemaker teams" were teams known to start fights...what NSM did by far exceeds anything I could have ever imagined. If I had the misfortune to have them in my line-up, I would not hesitate to call and say, "Sorry there is no longer a spot available for your team. You are not welcome at X competition. Here is your reg money. Good luck." Every committee has their own way of dealing with situations like this though, so I'm sure whatever Jashan decides to do or not do will work best for them.
Having quality teams apply to your competition and attend the event is a pure joy and makes all of the work worth the effort. There'd be absolutely no joy in hosting a team like this. “
Do you know us? Were you there? We don’t say our actions were good but they didn’t even come close to what we have seen at other competitions. We have seen reputable teams push people, threaten people, break anything and everything, throw people’s paggs off, do everything from drink and smoke at venues to steal and we can’t believe you guys overlook that but NSM demanding answers that were never answered, let’s call a world war on them.
Over 140 posts, the majority not knowing what’s going on have made us sound like monsters.
Siddyp- “While I can agree to what Mrchicity is saying, we shouldn't say that RPVD isn't doing what they feel is best for their organization. They don't want to take a chance on dealing with a potential problem so they took action. Even if it was 4-5 people that brought the team down, that's all it takes. A lot of the hate is stemming from these few members' childish and classless behavior. (the attacks on the judges and facebook statuses) If anything, as a new member, take this as a very blunt hint NOT to do these things because it is not respected, and it is frowned upon in the bhangra community.”
RPVD isn’t calling us out on their actions, they themselves don’t have a clean record…AVA and RPD the 2 teams holding this competition have beef with us, so that is the only reason Johnny is adding to the hate. Nobody said anything when Johnny announced his competition a day before ours after we had already announced it 2 weeks before, in order to take us down… that was so ethical right. Once again, Johnny’s own conduct doesn’t reflect any type of greatness, so let’s not go to accountability there. BTF where’s the justice?
Kiren Jhutty- “NSM...I didnt want to say anything directly to you guys bc I dont know you. All i know is what I personally witnessed that night while waiting to speak to the judges. To the rest of us, it looked like your ENTIRE team was taking part of the "riot", along with your parents and groupies. I'm TRULY SORRY that those of you who weren't a part of it must be clumped in with THAT same group of people bc you are on the same team. The way those individuals acted towards the judges and the rest of the teams is unforgivable and props to RPVD for taking a stand. I hope Jashan follows in your footsteps. No, its not fair to punish the whole team, but if I was in your shoes NSM, I'd consider dropping thsoe that have brough this upon you....real quick. I know the actual placings were changed by Antar but if you wanted to fix this whole mess you guys could've told her you wouldn't take the placing change THIS way...that would have been the RIGHT thing to do, not flaunting on FB that you were given first place bc you rightfully earned it. I don't regularly posts on BTF, nor do I try to be a part of the controversies that are addressed here but after seeing the iphone pic of the status update (directed towards MY team) from your "captain" I just wanted to point out how completely immature you sound and it just confirms to EVERYONE that you show no sense of team respect, sportsmanship or remorse for what you did that night.”
That same girl sent the nicest reply to some member of your team this morning confirming that that post was in no-way intended towards your team. She even said that we have no problems with you or any of the teams no matter what they have stated on this forum. This is again a completely baseless post that you just seem to be venting out anger in without speaking to other members of your team who we have been extremely courteous too.
Lessbihonest- “So in the end, ban the specific individuals who screamed profanities at them and slap the unpard parents who threatened the judges and teaching their illiterate kids that it's okay to act like a bandar” is INCREDIBLY DISRESPECTFUL. To parents who you don’t know and only referred to God over and over again, you should think ten times before saying anything. You don’t know whether the accusations are true or false, so once again fear god about what you were saying to our god-like parents. Everybody’s parents work very hard to raise their children and they do way more than enough to bring them up as educated individuals. Every single person on our team is a university student and many of them are going on to graduate school. All of our parents being originally from India have come to Canada and worked hard, too hard in some instances to give us a good life. If we start speaking in the context of our parents, all of us are spoiled little brats because we have time to waste on pointless online forums. We can listen to any type of bashing on us but going to our parents is completely rude, unnecessary, and THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL COMMENT EVER!!!! BTF where’s the justice?
We also want to give a shoutout to the mods for taking off some of the disrespectful comments that are completely unnecessary and don’t belong but I don’t understand why others have been allowed to remain there.
We did demand answers about results but many of you on btf have gone well beyond any type of ethical concern, conduct, or respect. Moreover, you have bashed us for more than 24 hours. We were in a situation where we didn’t have time to rethink our actions and were very angry but many of you are sitting in front of a computer screen and very aware of your actions. If you say these types of things in full awareness, I don’t want to know what you would sound like in our situation? Why not issue a btf ban on you?
To all of the fake accounts that have emerged, if you think hiding behind a computer screen and making random accusations and just simply hating makes you credible?
We think we have said enough although we could quote every single person and keep going on about this but we think that is unnecessary. This placing was awarded to us by the organization and we thank them for giving us first place. Obviously, we thought we deserved it and our performance speaks for itself. We would like to thank the organizer for overlooking our actions and taking a second look at what happened with judging. But that being said, it has nothing to do with what happened with other teams even though many people for some strange reason want to throw us in that loop. To summarize, the past few days haven’t exactly been a joyride for us nor was the weekend. Our team feels targeted and honestly this forum has blown basically everything out of proportion and again going to our parents is completely out of line. On the other hand, we hope that everyone understands where we are coming from and this bashing NSM can end. This post is being made once again from the 15 members that make up this team and are the feelings of this team in its entirety.

Sincerely,
Rishma Johal, Ramnit Basi, Taran Shergill, Mark Cheema, Amit Johal, Satvir Hundal, Simran Sidhu, Manvir Hundal, Sonali Johal, Dhanvir Hundal, Sahil Chawla, Gurvinder Sandhar, Ajay Hundal, Simmy Sidhu, Ashley Rai, and Prince Agnihotri.
a reply from NSM woo !

first off damn that was a long ass reply and i didnt understand what you were trying to say in most of it to be honest...

What confused me the most was the repeated "where's the justice?" What are you talking about...

- The thing thats undisputed in this whole thread and what i think the biggest issue is that instead of you accepting your placing and acting in a mature manner you stormed into a judges room with not only your team members but family and entourage (how do you condone that?) . As a result you went from 4th to 1st and then post that extremely disrepectful post about how you got first. To everyone on this forum it legit looks like you whined and bitched your way to a first place. To think you "earned" it just makes you come off as arrogant.

I'll try to keep this short because i know that paragraphs on paragraphs will follow, but i do want to say one thing. I understand that alot of us were not there to witness the actual events of the competition but when you have posts from three judges and several teams that all collaborate to come up with a remarkably similar account of what happened, there is obviously some substance in what they say. You cannot cover up direct quotes from people saying that they're all wrong and heard wrong and all that was said was "god related" thats arrogance. Instead of offering an apology for your actions you have tried to do damage control. No one is blaming you for changing the standings, or the way the competition was run, or the actions of the organizers. What they are blaming you for are your actions as members of the bhangra community and members of one of the most exciting teams on the circuit. Those actions are unacceptable as competitors, and the air of superiority that is evident from your actions and post above, is frankly disappointing.

All that being said, it takes one moment to change peoples lives. Mistakes happen, mistakes are forgiven, but mistakes are never forgotten. Learn from this one.
 

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Swi said:
NSM2 said:
We think we have said enough although we could quote every single person and keep going on about this but we think that is unnecessary. This placing was awarded to us by the organization and we thank them for giving us first place. Obviously, we thought we deserved it and our performance speaks for itself. We would like to thank the organizer for overlooking our actions and taking a second look at what happened with judging. But that being said, it has nothing to do with what happened with other teams even though many people for some strange reason want to throw us in that loop. To summarize, the past few days haven’t exactly been a joyride for us nor was the weekend. Our team feels targeted and honestly this forum has blown basically everything out of proportion and again going to our parents is completely out of line. On the other hand, we hope that everyone understands where we are coming from and this bashing NSM can end. This post is being made once again from the 15 members that make up this team and are the feelings of this team in its entirety.

Sincerely,
Rishma Johal, Ramnit Basi, Taran Shergill, Mark Cheema, Amit Johal, Satvir Hundal, Simran Sidhu, Manvir Hundal, Sonali Johal, Dhanvir Hundal, Sahil Chawla, Gurvinder Sandhar, Ajay Hundal, Simmy Sidhu, Ashley Rai, and Prince Agnihotri.
NSM, the correct thing to do in this situation is to truly accept responsibility for your actions. That means a real apology (off the forum, directly to parties involved), and one that is not immediately followed by petty quoting and rebutting every comment without addressing the issue. Your points fall on deaf ears otherwise.


Share the prize money out of respect to the other teams that placed by the judges. Apologize to the judges, not to us. DEMAND Antar release scoresheets. If you want to protect your name and reputation, then get her to release the proof that immediately legitimizes your argument that you placed on points. She must have them, she recalculated scores 2 days later right? So they MUST exist, just post the scoresheets or send them to teams and this whole problem becomes a series of misunderstandings. Without that it's just a rigging, plain and simple.
+1 Swi echo'd my thoughts exactly.
 
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