Toronto Bhangra Federation

[bhangramaster]

Toronto/Vancouver/Surrey bhangra > USA bhangra..... therefore their allowed to try these type of things. Just sit back and observe.

 

[Ak_Di_Nishani]

I think this whole thing is getting out of control with the skeptical remarks. I think both sides have good arguments when it comes to wether its good or not for bhangra, but from what i can see so far the people from toronto are saying lets see what happens while the people from america are against the idea totally. I know it isnt a battle of countries but i think americans should just sit back and watch for now if it works out, wicked, its good for bhangra. If it doesnt then the people IN toronto suffer no?

The teams that make up this federation have paved the way for bhangra in my area, so if anyone has the right to try this, Im okay with it being the teams that brought us bhangra in the first place. There are enough competitions that happen in the rest North America to let this expirement occur in one area.

So discuss away but I still believe the best course of action is to let it play out, AND then lets discuss the shit outa it lolll.

 

[Kush]

okay gonna edit my post here, but bhangramaster. thanks for your contribution to this thread. your opinion is whacked out, but its okay. i'm sure a few misguided individuals value it highly...

I think this whole thing is getting out of control with the skeptical remarks. I think both sides have good arguments when it comes to wether its good or not for bhangra, but from what i can see so far the people from toronto are saying lets see what happens while the people from america are against the idea totally. I know it isnt a battle of countries but i think americans should just sit back and watch for now if it works out, wicked, its good for bhangra. If it doesnt then the people IN toronto suffer no?

The teams that make up this federation have paved the way for bhangra in my area, so if anyone has the right to try this, Im okay with it being the teams that brought us bhangra in the first place. There are enough competitions that happen in the rest North America to let this expirement occur in one area.

So discuss away but I still believe the best course of action is to let it play out, AND then lets discuss the shit outa it lolll.

you're right dude. I'm not sure if alot of these posts have been directed to me, i'm simply trying to point out what i think is a fundamental flaw in the plan. But then again, i believe that any ideas that oppress/set limits to innovation are somewhat foolish to partake in because innovation drives EVERYTHING in the world. If during the renaissance, people set guidelines that said "this is how you are supposed to paint, no other way" then contemporary art would not exist. because the visionaries who created a completely NEW STYLE would have been banned from showcasing their art, no? Thats my only worry, that this JUDGING criteria which docks points for things like american lyrics or any other aspects will simply prevent people from trying NEW things and moving bhangra FORWARD. I agree, and i FULLY support the idea of preserving culture, but to create limitations on what a whole community can do isn't preserving anything. it is preventing development. The limits are less likely to be pushed when you are punished for trying (in the form of losing points/losing competitions). Maybe my original post came off harsh, but that was what immediately jumped out at me.


I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

 

[Kush]

i'm also gonna say one more thing here. If bhangramaster is from toronto, this is exactly why toronto SHOULD NOT be the location where this "federation" could occur. because if he is in anyway a reflection of the attitude of people from there (im not saying he IS i'm saying IF), then he is just proof that they somehow feel their style/their beliefs are better/more accurate than anyone elses. Is that who you want telling you how to dance? i don't think so. Though i truly hope that the people selected can shelve their own styles and views on bhangra and be accepting of ALL views, simply set fair, and clear boundaries that HELP TO PRESERVE THE MOST BASIC OF THE CULTURE and nothign more. Preserve culture, Promote innovation.




LOL jasraj whyd you delete your post homie?

 

[jasraj93]

i'm also gonna say one more thing here. If bhangramaster is from toronto, this is exactly why toronto SHOULD NOT be the location where this "federation" could occur. because if he is in anyway a reflection of the attitude of people from there (im not saying he IS i'm saying IF), then he is just proof that they somehow feel their style/their beliefs are better/more accurate than anyone elses. Is that who you want telling you how to dance? i don't think so. Though i truly hope that the people selected can shelve their own styles and views on bhangra and be accepting of ALL views, simply set fair, and clear boundaries that HELP TO PRESERVE THE MOST BASIC OF THE CULTURE and nothign more. Preserve culture, Promote innovation.




LOL jasraj whyd you delete your post homie?

LOLL becuzz i wrote it according to wuh u posted before buh then u changed yur post LOLLLL

 

[Kush]

i'm also gonna say one more thing here. If bhangramaster is from toronto, this is exactly why toronto SHOULD NOT be the location where this "federation" could occur. because if he is in anyway a reflection of the attitude of people from there (im not saying he IS i'm saying IF), then he is just proof that they somehow feel their style/their beliefs are better/more accurate than anyone elses. Is that who you want telling you how to dance? i don't think so. Though i truly hope that the people selected can shelve their own styles and views on bhangra and be accepting of ALL views, simply set fair, and clear boundaries that HELP TO PRESERVE THE MOST BASIC OF THE CULTURE and nothign more. Preserve culture, Promote innovation.




LOL jasraj whyd you delete your post homie?

LOLL becuzz i wrote it according to wuh u posted before buh then u changed yur post LOLLLL

yea im not adding fuel to his fire. i cant stand people who think theyre better than others. and no btf is not a beef fest, its all love. Honestly, i'm down to put the fun back in bhangra. who's with me?

 

[terabaap]

People, at times, fail to use logic.

 

[jasraj93]

i'm also gonna say one more thing here. If bhangramaster is from toronto, this is exactly why toronto SHOULD NOT be the location where this "federation" could occur. because if he is in anyway a reflection of the attitude of people from there (im not saying he IS i'm saying IF), then he is just proof that they somehow feel their style/their beliefs are better/more accurate than anyone elses. Is that who you want telling you how to dance? i don't think so. Though i truly hope that the people selected can shelve their own styles and views on bhangra and be accepting of ALL views, simply set fair, and clear boundaries that HELP TO PRESERVE THE MOST BASIC OF THE CULTURE and nothign more. Preserve culture, Promote innovation.




LOL jasraj whyd you delete your post homie?

LOLL becuzz i wrote it according to wuh u posted before buh then u changed yur post LOLLLL

yea im not adding fuel to his fire. i cant stand people who think theyre better than others. and no btf is not a beef fest, its all love. Honestly, i'm down to put the fun back in bhangra. who's with me?

LOLLLLL i only said canada beat usa in hockey becuz i wus backing up my fellow canadians. and its been a beef fest for a while now, all people do is beef on this forum LOL

 

[Kush]

i'm also gonna say one more thing here. If bhangramaster is from toronto, this is exactly why toronto SHOULD NOT be the location where this "federation" could occur. because if he is in anyway a reflection of the attitude of people from there (im not saying he IS i'm saying IF), then he is just proof that they somehow feel their style/their beliefs are better/more accurate than anyone elses. Is that who you want telling you how to dance? i don't think so. Though i truly hope that the people selected can shelve their own styles and views on bhangra and be accepting of ALL views, simply set fair, and clear boundaries that HELP TO PRESERVE THE MOST BASIC OF THE CULTURE and nothign more. Preserve culture, Promote innovation.




LOL jasraj whyd you delete your post homie?

LOLL becuzz i wrote it according to wuh u posted before buh then u changed yur post LOLLLL

yea im not adding fuel to his fire. i cant stand people who think theyre better than others. and no btf is not a beef fest, its all love. Honestly, i'm down to put the fun back in bhangra. who's with me?

LOLLLLL i only said canada beat usa in hockey becuz i wus backing up my fellow canadians. and its been a beef fest for a while now, all people do is beef on this forum LOL

i know. it saddens me, what happened to the FUN? I'm not beefing at all by the way. I'm just voicing what i think is an important opinion.

 

[jvirk]

i like what kush said - lets bring the fun back

big apple bhangra competition babyyyyyy lets dooo thiissssss

 

[Rajbir]

I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

just dont apply to those comps then.

i think taking it back to more traditional isnt a bad idea. as is, the circuit is already straying away from "traditional" bhangra.

 

[Kush]

I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

just dont apply to those comps then.

i think taking it back to more traditional isnt a bad idea. as is, the circuit is already straying away from "traditional" bhangra.

lol thats not the point, but ok. And sure, taking it back to traditional is fine. Have comps that do that, whatever. but whats the point in dictating what other comps do? If a competition is thrown outside the federation, is it going to be blackballed? de-promoted? or just left alone. these are all things that matter.

 

[Kush]

i like what kush said - lets bring the fun back

big apple bhangra competition babyyyyyy lets dooo thiissssss

Justin, come hang with us. We're all love and fun i swear. If it were any other way, i wouldn't dance bhangra...

 

[Sukha]

I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

just dont apply to those comps then.

i think taking it back to more traditional isnt a bad idea. as is, the circuit is already straying away from "traditional" bhangra.

To add to that, like someone mentioned before this only effects 1 or 2 competitions as there aren't that many competitions in Toronto so I don't understand why people think this is something that is going to have a massive impact on the north american bhangra scene. If anything it's going to keep teams in check by preventing fights between toronto teams at any competition.

 

[Kush]

I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

just dont apply to those comps then.

i think taking it back to more traditional isnt a bad idea. as is, the circuit is already straying away from "traditional" bhangra.

To add to that, like someone mentioned before this only effects 1 or 2 competitions as there aren't that many competitions in Toronto so I don't understand why people think this is something that is going to have a massive impact on the north american bhangra scene. If anything it's going to keep teams in check by preventing fights between toronto teams at any competition.

good point. again, i'm just expressing a different view point guys. but nvm, i give up, i'm just looking like the bad guy here. I hope this does tremendous, GREAT things for bhangra. 1-2 comps, or every comp in the nation.

 

[Rajbir]

i like what kush said - lets bring the fun back

big apple bhangra competition babyyyyyy lets dooo thiissssss

I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

just dont apply to those comps then.

i think taking it back to more traditional isnt a bad idea. as is, the circuit is already straying away from "traditional" bhangra.

lol thats not the point, but ok. And sure, taking it back to traditional is fine. Have comps that do that, whatever. but whats the point in dictating what other comps do? If a competition is thrown outside the federation, is it going to be blackballed? de-promoted? or just left alone. these are all things that matter.

Justin, come hang with us. We're all love and fun i swear. If it were any other way, i wouldn't dance bhangra...

I am in FULL support of preservation of culture, but not by setting rules that state how competitions have to judge/what teams can/cannot do unless it in someway is causing harm/danger. So maybe i'm just viewing one extreme of this federation idea, hopefully it is much milder and simply looks to PROMOTE rather than to CONTROL. defining that line will be very, very tricky.

just dont apply to those comps then.

i think taking it back to more traditional isnt a bad idea. as is, the circuit is already straying away from "traditional" bhangra.

lol thats not the point, but ok. And sure, taking it back to traditional is fine. Have comps that do that, whatever. but whats the point in dictating what other comps do? If a competition is thrown outside the federation, is it going to be blackballed? de-promoted? or just left alone. these are all things that matter.

lol how often are u going to go to toronto to compete? its called the TORONTO bhangra federation, and the north american bhangra federation. US comps outnumber the TBF by far.

Let them do what they want. If toronto is in consensus about those rules then let them do their thing.

 

[jvirk]

i like what kush said - lets bring the fun back

big apple bhangra competition babyyyyyy lets dooo thiissssss

Justin, come hang with us. We're all love and fun i swear. If it were any other way, i wouldn't dance bhangra...

lol trust me bro i will..jasmeet (crazy kid) tells me great thigns about you guys

it broke my heart when i found out i wasnt gona be able to dance for bayside...but we're def chillin at big apple

brrrrrrruuuahhh

 

[Manjot]

lol

 

[dj2nyce]

yea im not adding fuel to his fire. i cant stand people who think theyre better than others. and no btf is not a beef fest, its all love. Honestly, i'm down to put the fun back in bhangra. who's with me?

theres not a "fun" in "bhangra"...but there is "bhang"

 

[Badwal]

I think we should just do traditional, screw the kundah swings, slashes, amplifier remixes, shots shots shots